Can Europe laugh at itself?

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A new art work depicting the countries of the European Community has been unveiled...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090114/ten-outrage-over-eu-stereotypes-exhibiti-1dc2b55.html

An EU art work revealed as a fake has caused anger over its portrayal of national stereotypes, with Bulgaria outraged at its depiction as a squat toilet and demanding that the exhibition be halted.

"I cannot accept to see a toilet on the map of my country. This is not the face of Bulgaria," Betina Joteva, first secretary for the Bulgarian office to the EU complained.
She said the Bulgarian ambassador had sent letters to the Czech EU presidency and EU foreign affairs chief Javier Solana, complaining about the massive installation and demanding that it be pulled down before the official public opening of the exhibit on Thursday.

In Prague Czech sculptor David Cerny admitted on Tuesday that he had deceived EU officials with the exhibition, which is hanging in the main EU Council building in Brussels.


He had wanted to include 27 European artists but said he had failed for different reasons and decided to invent the names, working with only a small group of Czechs on the project.

"We apologise ... for our failure to tell (Czech officials) about the real state of things and for misleading them," Cerny said in a statement.
"We knew the truth would surface, but before that, we wanted to find out whether Europe can take a laugh at itself."

Bulgarian diplomat Joteva said "so far we have received no apology from the Czechs, we are waiting for this but first of all let's get this ugly thing down".

However an unrepentant Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek told reporters in Strasbourg that he hoped the installation wasn't pulled down before he got the chance to see it.

"I hope that when I get to Brussels it is still there and I well be able to see it, so I will know what everyone is laughing at and outraged by," said Topolanek, whose country assumed the EU's rotating presidency at the start of the month.

In an invitation to the official opening, the Czech EU presidency said the deal with Cerny, famous for painting a Soviet tank pink, "clearly stipulated that the work should be a joint project of artists from the 27 EU member states."

"I was unpleasantly surprised to learn that the creator of the work of art Entropa was in fact David Cerny and that it was not made by 27 artists representing all the EU member states," Czech deputy prime minister for European affairs Alexandr Vondra said in a statement.

The main reaction when it was unveiled to reporters and diplomats on Monday in the grand foyer of the EU building was laughter.

"Stereotypes are barriers to be demolished," the Czechs explained in a statement.

In "Entropa", the map of Poland was shown with Catholic clergy erecting the rainbow flag of the gay community in the style of a famous photo of US troops raising the Stars and Stripes at Iwo Jima in World War II.

"There were mutterings" in a meeting of EU ambassadors "that there was a kind of swastika depicted on Germany," an EU diplomat said.

The map of Bulgaria is dominated by the now infamous "Turkish" squat toilet.

The map of the Netherlands is presented totally flooded with water with just the minarets of mosques visible.

Italy is transformed into a giant football pitch with players holding strategically-placed footballs.

"Grotesque exaggeration and mystification is a hallmark of Czech culture, and creating false identities is one of the strategies of contemporary art," David Cerny, the Czech artist who dreamed up the exhibit, said in a statement of the exhibition in Brussels organised by the Czech EU presidency.


The United Kingdom is represented by a blank space symbolising its reluctance to decide whether or not it is part of Europe. France has a banner right across it stating "On Strike".

Reactions have been mixed. Most workers in European institutions have thought it a good joke, even if rude about their country. Some politicians are furious.

Og
 
... The United Kingdom is represented by a blank space symbolising its reluctance to decide whether or not it is part of Europe. France has a banner right across it stating "On Strike". ...
I thought those two were probably the most accurate depictions, though doubtless "Pa Broon" is less than pleased. The Bulgarian politico on BBC TV last night was just ludicrous in her obvious inability to see a joke.
 
Cerny's humour seems to be in the great tradition of "The Good Soldier Schwieck.:)
 
Nationalism is marked by an absence of the appreciation of irony - a sense of humor is the first thing to go.
 
Around -02 I went with some friends on a trip to Bulgaria. The cab driver at the airport had a t-shirt that said Welcome to Sofia, we'll have indoor plumbing any day now.

There's a difference between laughing at oneself, and being laughed at by others.
 
Around -02 I went with some friends on a trip to Bulgaria. The cab driver at the airport had a t-shirt that said Welcome to Sofia, we'll have indoor plumbing any day now.

There's a difference between laughing at oneself, and being laughed at by others.

That's part of the row. Each part was supposed to have been designed by an artist from the country to be represented. A Bulgarian portraying his/her country as an out-of-date toilet would be amusing. A Czech doing it can be considered insulting.

I still think that Britain as a blank space is an accurate assessment.

Og
 
I take it that the, 'Some politicians are furious.' is limited to only those who can read. Probably too small a group to worry about.
 
"Why can't you guys take a joke" is always the mark of a joke that didn't fucking work.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
The joke is firmly on the the Cheques (sic)
It is customary to comply with EU Regulations by inventing false organizations, in this case, false artists that an army of European bureaucrats failed to detect. I can't see from the images how Portugal is represented... probably a German towel on the beach.
 
In this increasingly PC world, taking the piss out of national stereotypes has become equivalent to holocaust denial.

Satire makes us all stronger.
 
I still think that Britain as a blank space is an accurate assessment.
Og

Was it keeling over and slowly sliding into the Atlantic?

I'm curious to know how the Czech artists represented their own country - ah, that explains the blank space for Britain. They're all over in prague drinking too much cheap beer and puking over the Charles bridge.

I'll disagree with Stella though.

If it irritated a bunch of politicians then it worked perfectly :D
 
Not being European, I found it perfectly delightful, though if the best they could come up with for Italy was a soccer game, I'm disappointed. France, they nailed.
 
A new art work depicting the countries of the European Community has been unveiled...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090114/ten-outrage-over-eu-stereotypes-exhibiti-1dc2b55.html

An EU art work revealed as a fake has caused anger over its portrayal of national stereotypes, with Bulgaria outraged at its depiction as a squat toilet and demanding that the exhibition be halted.

"I cannot accept to see a toilet on the map of my country. This is not the face of Bulgaria," Betina Joteva, first secretary for the Bulgarian office to the EU complained.
She said the Bulgarian ambassador had sent letters to the Czech EU presidency and EU foreign affairs chief Javier Solana, complaining about the massive installation and demanding that it be pulled down before the official public opening of the exhibit on Thursday.

In Prague Czech sculptor David Cerny admitted on Tuesday that he had deceived EU officials with the exhibition, which is hanging in the main EU Council building in Brussels.


He had wanted to include 27 European artists but said he had failed for different reasons and decided to invent the names, working with only a small group of Czechs on the project.

"We apologise ... for our failure to tell (Czech officials) about the real state of things and for misleading them," Cerny said in a statement.
"We knew the truth would surface, but before that, we wanted to find out whether Europe can take a laugh at itself."

Bulgarian diplomat Joteva said "so far we have received no apology from the Czechs, we are waiting for this but first of all let's get this ugly thing down".

However an unrepentant Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek told reporters in Strasbourg that he hoped the installation wasn't pulled down before he got the chance to see it.

"I hope that when I get to Brussels it is still there and I well be able to see it, so I will know what everyone is laughing at and outraged by," said Topolanek, whose country assumed the EU's rotating presidency at the start of the month.

In an invitation to the official opening, the Czech EU presidency said the deal with Cerny, famous for painting a Soviet tank pink, "clearly stipulated that the work should be a joint project of artists from the 27 EU member states."

"I was unpleasantly surprised to learn that the creator of the work of art Entropa was in fact David Cerny and that it was not made by 27 artists representing all the EU member states," Czech deputy prime minister for European affairs Alexandr Vondra said in a statement.

The main reaction when it was unveiled to reporters and diplomats on Monday in the grand foyer of the EU building was laughter.

"Stereotypes are barriers to be demolished," the Czechs explained in a statement.

In "Entropa", the map of Poland was shown with Catholic clergy erecting the rainbow flag of the gay community in the style of a famous photo of US troops raising the Stars and Stripes at Iwo Jima in World War II.

"There were mutterings" in a meeting of EU ambassadors "that there was a kind of swastika depicted on Germany," an EU diplomat said.

The map of Bulgaria is dominated by the now infamous "Turkish" squat toilet.

The map of the Netherlands is presented totally flooded with water with just the minarets of mosques visible.

Italy is transformed into a giant football pitch with players holding strategically-placed footballs.

"Grotesque exaggeration and mystification is a hallmark of Czech culture, and creating false identities is one of the strategies of contemporary art," David Cerny, the Czech artist who dreamed up the exhibit, said in a statement of the exhibition in Brussels organised by the Czech EU presidency.


The United Kingdom is represented by a blank space symbolising its reluctance to decide whether or not it is part of Europe. France has a banner right across it stating "On Strike".

Reactions have been mixed. Most workers in European institutions have thought it a good joke, even if rude about their country. Some politicians are furious.

Og

LOL - people are offended by the simplest of things these days. One of my favourites stories comes from an Italian Canadian. She went to Italy one year and a cousin took her to a concert. She needed to go to the bathroom, so asked "where's the ladies room?" He opened his arms in a gesture of anywhere.

"No really. Bathroom," she said in desperation and he pointed the way.

When she got there she found a hole in the floor and some stone footing she could balance on to pee. There were no barriers, no closed stalls. She took off her overalls, (no bra) and peed in what she said was "INFRONT OF ALL OF ROME."

Sometimes, bathrooms are the hallmark of history. :D
 
LOL - people are offended by the simplest of things these days. One of my favourites stories comes from an Italian Canadian. She went to Italy one year and a cousin took her to a concert. She needed to go to the bathroom, so asked "where's the ladies room?" He opened his arms in a gesture of anywhere.

"No really. Bathroom," she said in desperation and he pointed the way.

When she got there she found a hole in the floor and some stone footing she could balance on to pee. There were no barriers, no closed stalls. She took off her overalls, (no bra) and peed in what she said was "INFRONT OF ALL OF ROME."

Sometimes, bathrooms are the hallmark of history. :D

Those are the ones that the French call 'Turkish'. I have no idea who the Italians blame them on. :D
 
That whole EU thing has turned into a cluster fuck :rolleyes:

So long as it was the Common Market things were fine but when they tried to integrate the continent politically . . . and then had the mindless vacuity to put the HQ in Brussels? It's a good indication that the governing classes are so inbred that feeblemindedness has become the norm.
 
So long as it was the Common Market things were fine but when they tried to integrate the continent politically . . . and then had the mindless vacuity to put the HQ in Brussels? It's a good indication that the governing classes are so inbred that feeblemindedness has become the norm.

Most Europeans think of Brussels as most Americans think of Washington.

Both were built on swamps. Both have stayed as swamps full of bottom feeders.

Og
 
Shrugs. The anarchists can think what they want. The fact is that small nations are helpless against the new feudal system known as globalization. Even nations the size of Britain and Germany can't do much about it. The second they say, "We'd like to put regulations in place to protect the people we're responsible for," the feudal business system replies, "Fuck you, asshole," and stops doing business with that country. Which causes that country massive economic problems.

Only large political entities can stand against this because the feudal system can't afford to ignore them. So the U.S., the EU, China, India and Russia have the power to make decisions for their people and make them stick.

Shrugs. But if people want to be serfs in a serf nation that's their prerogative.
 
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