Can anyone help the SadNiceGuy?

[SadNiceGuy000]

Hello, this is my first thread/post here and I would like to say that I hope it is not my last (I feel that this thread might get people to think that I am just some messed-up 20 yr old virgin).

I am pretty sure that I have CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) but my arm is also pretty messed-up as well. When I put my left thumb on the bottom of my right wrist and pull it to the right side it pops. Also when I put my hand down on a surface and after keeping it keeping it at an angle then making it straight my right arm's joint pops a little (not that loud at all but it still does...).

My problem is that I masturbate quite a bit more than I probably should and I know that the only reason that happens is because I like women but they have never looked my way and it makes me sad because I have always wanted to fall in love with someone but no girls have ever taken an interest in me so my id just takes over my depression and then I suppose you know what happens after that...(I am just plain ugly (not to mention boring...)...this superficial world depresses me to no ends...).

I hope this isn't that far from normal and that I am not ignored for being a "freakin' pervert/loser" or something like that but if I have then at least I gave it the ol' college try.

I will not accept ANY psychological or psychiatric help so please don't suggest that... I don't think I could ever tell anyone this (face-to-face anyways...) because I am a bit "two-sided" in my personality but am really a nice guy that is just depressed because he sees all these women having relationships fail and gets mad because people take them for granted when he knows he will more than likely NEVER get into one because there appears to be no one for him and he is just too impatient to "wait for the right one" to come along...

Sorry if I disgusted you or something, I really have no idea how others will respond to this so I am just preparing for the absolute worst... I am so ashamed with myself, I really am but I am under so much DESPAIR because I see women at work that I could see myself liking not because they are "fine" and "hot" but because they are nice and seem like they would be a great woman to settle down and have a family and/or life with...and I just know that the second I try to ask them out they will have a boyfriend, get mad at me for trying to ask them out, just plain ignore me forever and give me looks or something but nothing ever really seems to turn my way...

 

[A7inchPhildo]

Wow what can one say? It is hard to call you a looser when you have done such a great job of putting your self down. I think what ever I post, gosh you have me beat there too.

Well when you get to 50 posts I will take you seriously until then I think you are just cranking up the folks with a silly thread. I am sorry you are so pathetic. No really It leaves little room for me to kick and prod you to see if you are for real.

Phildo

 

[Noor]

Okay this is what I get from your post:

you are in pain with carpal tunnel

you think you are ugly

you think you are boring

you ARE depressed and have low esteem

you are afraid of therapy and maybe change. You know you are depressed and despair but refuse to seek help, that is what makes you unattractive.

you say "this superficial world depresses me to no ends" and yet you respond to it in a superficial fashion.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are men who I have met online who it doesn't matter how they look because it is their mind and creativity that attract me.

I just watched a movie with a "star" lead who looked darn unattractive to me but obviously a lot of women think he is.

Sometimes just being clean and well dressed can work wonders.

I see a lot of complaining but what have you tried?

What besides physical beauty do you have to offer a woman? Humor, wit, charm, honesty, friendliness, thoughtfulness, interesting conversation?

Are you a 20 yr old virgin?

 

[Bobmi357]

Someday someone will do a study about people using the net in leui of professional psychological services.

If you really think you have CTS try looking into getting both work and home computers into a more ergonomic configuration. I've been using computers for 30 yrs now and still don't have CTS, but then I refuse to own a computer mouse either.

As to your other problems. GET HELP. A public BBS is not a place to get real help in dealing with depression. And in case no one told you, they can treat depression with drugs you know.

 

[Noor]

good point about cts. I too have been using computers for 28 yrs and only suffered from it breifly in the late 80's. It is one of those things that getting help fast makes a big difference.

I have used a mouse since 1984, mice are not my problem, now those touchpads sometimes are . height of chair, work surface, keyboard and finger positions makes all the difference. Also learning how not to use your hands and wrists helps.

 

[SanDguy_22]

well....

haaah...

you think youhave problems now....

Hell i have had the same problems... except my hands were (and still are sometimes) bother by inflamation and stiffness (aka the old folks disease of arthrtis).

Just wait for 4-5 years then youll get to the un-caring, twitchy..
amuse your self with anything phase of your personal evolution...
curently i amuse my self by counting the seconds on the varied change windows of traffic lights. ( believe it or not but im up to a 70% accuracy on my change prediction abilities)
At this point in time you will not care wether or not you might get a date.. heck even if you did it wouldnt work out in any way...
due to the fact that your own equipment will not work anymore.
(due to serious mental problems ccaused by the years of depression, rejection and abuse caused by the stupidity and arrogance of women around you.)

After about 5-10 years youll become somewhat sad again but youll find that due to the shitty treatment women have given you
some level of severe psychosis will most likely develop.
at this point youll propably make a choice between 4 paths.

1. Suicide. ( why not its the easy way out.)
2. Youll joint a cult or maybe even found one; this includes
majority religions. (heck why not atleast you wont have to deal
with "normal" people anymore and youll always have a friend
in some god figure.)
3. You might climp a tower with a rifle, maybe become the next
unabomber, maybe even someone comparable to hitler or
serial rapist trying to confirm his warped sence of masculinity.
(... well when tortured people snap they do it with a bang...)
4. Or if your not the violent type mentioned in the above 3
options youll stay at home watching TV, eating cheetos and
wish that someone will save you from your pathetic little
existance whilst you continuously get fatter and fatter untill
one day you have a massive heartattack and die from that.


Hey call me a pessimist but thats just my view of the world..
there is also the highly impropably fifth option that....

5. you will take all of that pain inside of you directing it on the task of becoming really fucking bitch ass rich and powerfull and get revenge on everyone whom has ever done you wrong.
That includes all of those women who messed with you.
(oh wait thats just a variable of situation 3.)
Hell maybe you can teatch the whole world a lesson on what hapens when they mess with a "nice guy" for too long.


Sorry for the half assed analysis of his situation but i have been there and i can see what his situation might lead to.

Oddly enough his name is alsmost a rip off of 2 of mine.

In any case hopefully he will learn somehting from it and even more so ... hopefully some women will learn from it that you really should not treat good men badly simply because you think that they might be a bit weird. ( Because that treatment will cause severe problems with those men in the future which might trace them selves back on to you.)

 

[SanDguy_22]

oh and mind you...
this has quite a bit of the truthfull sarcasm imbeded within it...
that i have a bad habbit of using.
(people never seem to catch on)

 

[Succulent-one]

OK SadNiceGuy....I have double the years on you.....I am saying this to give you some hope for the future till you can get some serious help.

As the years pass a man's look's, per say, become less important to me. Clean and neat have always counted. I look for brains, humor, are they at ease with themselves, kindness, can they laugh, and yes, you can all boo me but I want romantic as well. And you know what??? ordinary men become very handsome in my eyes, by just being a nice guy!

 

[SanDguy_22]

Encore... encore...

Bravo succulent -one and i really do mean it.

I just wish that there were some women like you in existance
that are his age. ( oh hell... mine for that matter)

Too bad that most are too blinded by their youth to understand what you do now.


In the end companionship is the only things that matters..

Am i right or what?

 

[BirdsWife]

Re: Encore... encore...

I just wish that there were some women like you in existance
that are his age. ( oh hell... mine for that matter)

Sorry, but I call bullshit on this one. There are plenty of women his age and your age out there that appreciate a "nice guy" and don't judge a man based solely on his looks. The only problem is that you don't give them a second glance because they don't look like Nichole Kidman or Angelia Jolie.

They are hiding in the corner of the library reading a book or slinking through the grocery store in their sweats on a Saturday night, and they feel just as sad and unattractive as you, if not more so, because they feel they don't fit the media's portrayal of what a beautiful woman should look like.

If you would spend less time blaming women for all of your problems, you would realize that the difference between being attractive or unattractive is all about your attitude.

 

[SummerMorning]

Alas I must take exception to the idea that Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder (rpg pun quite aside). Studies show that symmetry and certain physical proportions are pretty much universally appreciated.

As to attractiveness and all that - I agree - it has a lot to do with attitude. In particular men can get away with less than movie star looks in our patriarchal world, which pays a lot of attention to wallets, cars, and yes, manliness.

If your position is going to be one of pathetic and passive despair - trust me, things are not going to get better. Start by getting to know and like yourself, and if you can't do it alone - get a shrink. The only person that can make things better is you - so much for the psychobabble drivel.

Adieu

 

[peachykeen]

Yeah. OK. Tell you what, when you get tired of wallowing there alone at your itty bitty pity party, try again. You either want to get help or you don't, pal. Make up yer friggin mind. Or, die lonely. Whatever, your choice.

 

[sheath]

I will not accept ANY psychological or psychiatric help so please don't suggest that...

Oh, Holy FUCK, that was the last thing I needed to see today.

*deep breath*


Okay. You will not accept help of any kind.

One very, very important question:

WHY?

S.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Hi. I'm a 21 year old woman who finds normal-looking men attractive. Why? Because of personality. How do I know that a good deal of normal-looking men have personality? Because I'm the kind of woman who never really got a second look. I'm overweight. I know that, in my years, I've had to develop a personality in order for people to pay positive attention to me, and I've learned that, in the end, looks are passing, and personality is not. I've dated guys that were literally unattractive to me physically because their personality was so winning.

So yes, women your age pay attention.

I agree with someone who said that the reason YOU don't notice is because the women who do pay attention don't look like movie stars. I'm large. Does that mean I'm not pretty? Hell no. I think I'm rather pretty. Does being large make me less worthy of love and attention? Hell no.

You say you won't accept psychological help. You're asking for psychological help here. Pick one.

You have carpal tunnel syndrome. Big fucking woop. I'm sorry, I know it's painful, I have it. I also have a lot of other ailments from car accidents over the last few years. Does it stop me? No. Does it make me feel less attractive? Yes, sometimes. But those are days when you need to realize that you're on this planet for a reason, that you are valued by someone, and that you are beautiful, handsome, or whatever you want to be.

If you constantly think you're ugly, then others will see you as ugly. Why? Because you're not going to carry yourself well. Because you're going to be depressed and won't smile. Because depressed people generally are less fit and health-conscious than happy people, etc. Your mind and body deteriorate together, my friend. Only YOU can pick yourself up out of this slump, and only YOU can make yourself attractive.

I spent years thinking I was ugly. And really, I wasn't. I was thin once, and I honestly believed I was ugly, and because of that, I was shy, reserved, unconfident, etc. Let me tell you something: confidence is SEXY. One day I woke up and realized that I was tired of feeling ugly. I looked in the mirror, naked, and just pointed out the things I loved about myself, or the things that I could learn to even LIKE. Now, I love my body. I want to lose weight, but that is for my health, not because I feel like I need to change to please other people.

Confidence can only come from you. And people are not happy to simply stroke other people's egos. If you came here for an ego stroke, I think you came to the wrong place. If you came here to bite the bullet and take advice, then snap out of it, get yourself some help for that wrist and for your mind, and get on with life.

 

[SadNiceGuy000]

Well there was some negative comments and some positive comments. I feel really pathetic for having my CTS because I am a slave to masturbation and that in itself is **not acceptable** to me even though it seems like I am trying to conform by believing that but I am not and I am not doing myself any favors by continuing to carry on with life like this but I have found that I really have no life... Hopefully that might change because I am joining a group of co-workers that are going to join our local gym on the first monday of January.

I really like this girl at work at the moment (keep in mind while I like to talk maturely most of the times, I am still a kid at heart and still play video games, watch anime (even younger anime, like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh!) laugh at immature things like Futurama and Family Guy, and play card games like Magic the Gathering and Yugioh) and she seems to be a nice girl because she doesn't like to go to clubs like I don't, she like alternative music like I do, she doesn't like smoking and drinking just like I don't (to each his/her own, right?), and seems nice but I just don't know because in the past I have been let down a lot and I don't take rejection too good, it has crushed my self-esteem to say the very least... Sure I know that I am better off without her but it doesn't feel good to be told you are not good enough for someone, good thing I haven't had the unfortunate position of breaking someone's heart.

I don't know what it is that makes me so avoidable but I just seem to scream "boring"...

Noor: I am a 20 yr virgin but that doesn't matter because I don't want to lose my virginity to someone that doesn't mean squat to me...

SanDGuy: Sometimes I feel like saying **** it and not helping any of the women (it is usually women) that ask me to help them out when we are in a rush but I just can't... It may be cowardly or stupid but that is just the way I am and have no idea on what I should do, get used by women that I have no chance with or have them shun me and maybe even hate me... I lose either way...

Succelent-one: I don't know if I can make it to an older age (and I am not referring to committing suicide because I don't think I will ever do that... I mean I might go insane before then and I am already growing to hate relationships because they are constantly dangled in front of me like a steak dangled in front of a starving lion) until I find "love".

Bird'sWife: Surprisingly those women are taken...(I like nerdy-looking girls a lot, I would much rather have a nerdy girl than a "hot" cheerleader blonde) I am not the type of guy that would go on one-night stands with the biggest breasted girl in the club so please don't insult me if that is what you are saying (I am not trying to put words in your mouth so I am sorry if you think that I am...).

sheath: That is very simple, I want to remain anonymous because I feel like the smallest person/biggest scumbag/etc and don't want to feel embarrassed in front of someone. I just can't get over what a two-faced pervert I am, sometimes I just want someone to kill me but I know that won't happen and I am *not* about to take my own life or cut my self...

Sorry for boring everyone with my Dawson's River melodrama but that is just the way it is for someone without a life so please try to show an ounce of empathy...

BTW vixenshe, you are not the least bit ugly, if that is you on the avatar, thanks in particular for your advice, it was really helpful but I just don't know if I can gain my confidence back because like I think I said, no girl has ever looked my way or complimented me (well there was one girl in 6th grade but I haven't seen her in a while...oh well), at least not recently...

 

[BirdsWife]

Bird'sWife: Surprisingly those women are taken...(I like nerdy-looking girls a lot, I would much rather have a nerdy girl than a "hot" cheerleader blonde) I am not the type of guy that would go on one-night stands with the biggest breasted girl in the club so please don't insult me if that is what you are saying (I am not trying to put words in your mouth so I am sorry if you think that I am...).

If you look carefully, you will see that most of my post was directed at SanDguy_22 and his comments, not you.

You should, however, take my statement that "the difference between being attractive or unattractive is all about your attitude" to heart if you truly want to be happy instead of wallowing in self-pity.

Just look at your profile. Do you say, "I am still a kid at heart and still play video games, watch anime (even younger anime, like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh!) laugh at immature things like Futurama and Family Guy, and play card games like Magic the Gathering and Yugioh)"? Do you give anyone a reason to want to get to know you better?

NO!

All you have in there is "I'm boring". Boy, that will get the people lined up and knocking on your door.

And as Sheath asked, if you are so down on yourself that you don't know how to fix things on your own, why in the world don't you want to get any professional help? Because you don't want anyone to know you masturbate? Hate to break the news to you, but playing with yourself is as natural a thing to do as breathing. Half the people admit they do it, and the other half are liars.

You might think we are being a bit rough on you here, but most of us have been around long enough to tell the difference between someone who genuinely wants help and someone who is simply looking for sympathy and a "Poor baby. The world is so cruel to you". All of the advice on Earth isn't going to help you one bit until you decide you want to be in the first category instead of the second.

 

[fgarvb1]

Yeah, well we all have our crosses to bear.

Now get off your ass and get some help.

I mean...What HAVE you got to lose? Do you think somehow you could make yourself worse off?

Yes it will hurt. No pain no gain.

Myself and a few million other people did it and you can too.

Go learn how to live. Don't you know living like you are will kill you just as dead any other illness before your time.

yes I'm giving it to you straight.

No pity party here. I suspect you thrive on it.

 

[TongueTyler]

Just a looser trying to get a rise out of being a looser. Who has ever heard something so stupid as CTS from jerking off. Fuck head get a toy or hump your pillow.

A fucking pity party ey. Cry on this you looser my brother is stricken physically much worse than your sorry ass could ever be. He is thankfull for the chance just to advance everday in life, never mind to ever have the dream of walking, talking like a normal person. And you think people should pity you cause you stroke it! Yea, right!

Nice profile by the way. Looks just like that of a secondary name. No effort given to place anything in it.

Yes I can call it as it is, you are a looser! In stead of seeking any quality in what your life offers you focus on "whoa is me." Yup, that is what a looser does. Obviously you know why you are single and you choose not to change that. Good for you at least you know the reason you are alone.

What could anyone offer for advice? Not much of anything because you are lazzy enough to boldly state.

Sorry for boring everyone with my Dawson's River melodrama but that is just the way it is for someone without a life so please try to show an ounce of empathy...

That tells me you are going to contradict whatever advice is passed your way.

Just wasting my time by even posting this response.

 

[SanDguy_22]

fgdfg

BirdsWife

hahaaaaa

man your funny..,.,

I can honestly say that you are as prejudice as one can be on to my comentaries...

all i can respond to that is that... the only things on looks that i
personaly shun against.. would be sever ( and i do mean severe obesity) that means if someone is 4'11" tall and weighs 350 lb...

Even as such i dont discriminate against them as people but rather just on the basis that:
1. They might die of a medical complication in a month. (exageration) but just to make the point that a possible 60 year relationship with an individual such as that would be highly impropable.
2. The question on why are they that way alsways comes to mind. Is it a medical disorder..? or perhaps a psychological one.
2.b. If it is a medical disorder could it be passed on to possible chidren ( i personaly would rather not give a curse like that to my kdis.. i used to weight 165 so i know how bad it can be)
2.c. If it is a psychological disorder... what are they compensating for by the mass consumption of food... i sertainly dont want to become the replasement for that compensatory item.
Nor do i want to be killed in my sleep because my SO has a nervous breakdown in the middle of the night.
3. i dont want to get hurt during "recreational activities" my joints and bones are bad enough as it is.

Beyond that i really dont give a fuck on looks so shove your prejudice where the sun dont shine.
Oh and by the way i have tried to talk to those women you just described... 99.999% of the time i get the "you horible freak/ monster" look for simply saying hello and smiling.
My favorite responce is not getting one back.
As a whole i do tend to go for more "nerdy" girls than anything else due to the simple fact that they are much more fun and
engaging as individuals. (just to over generalize a little bit.)




SadNiceGuy...
Your pretty much where i have been before and curently am...
its also something i in a way described in my original post.
Hell even if the highly impropably situations were to present them selves where i could get in to a relationship with a woman....
it would never work out; i would hold too much resenment for all the shit thrown my way during the past years.

As to your worry about the insanity thing.... well i can feel my self going that way as well. even though i am not a violent individual...Only god knows how ill end up in a couple of years.

Oh by the way ever had a woman tell you these things when you try to get to know them...

You try to say hi in some way and introduce your self they say:
Nothing.
Give you the "you horible monster/ freak get away from me" stare.
Walk away.
Say hi back but nothing more than that and anything more you say gets one of the prior responses or a simple yes/ no type of an answer.

You have known someone for a while and try to suggest a date to them. they respond by:
Ignoring you.
giving you the you horible monster/ freak get away from me" stare. even though they have been nothing but friendly to you beforehand.
Or my favorite they laugh in your face and never give you a true response.
Or how about "Im sorry im married/ Im sorry i have a boyfriend/
Im sorry im kind of seeing someone right now."
even with the ones you know for sertain to be single.
Or "Im sorry you remind me of my brother." Even though you look nothing like them.
Or finaly " im sorry but i dont want to ruin our friendship"
after that they never talk to you again voluntarily.




To everyone else... especialy you birds wife....
imagine what the effect treatment like that will have on a guy over a span of a decade or two. Especialy in a world where they get pushed aside bywomen behind every god awful drug, abusing, wife beating, hillbilly asshole.

 

[SanDguy_22]

earlier i meant that i used to weigh 265 lb

 

[Ms_Lilith]

BTW vixenshe, you are not the least bit ugly, if that is you on the avatar, thanks in particular for your advice, it was really helpful but I just don't know if I can gain my confidence back because like I think I said, no girl has ever looked my way or complimented me (well there was one girl in 6th grade but I haven't seen her in a while...oh well), at least not recently...

Thank you, it is me. But my point was not to gain a compliment. My point was that I used to get called ugly and fat and I used to FEEL that way... finding confidence shouldn't come from some person saying to you that you look nice, or you're good at something. Confidence comes from within. One day, I got tired of hating myself, and decided to start liking myself, and now I really dig myself. I think I'm pretty, and I basically think I'm the shit. I like me.

You have to do the same thing. Even if it hurts, you need to dig deep inside and find those things that you like about who you are.

My brother is 24. He plays Magic. Where we live, there's a huge subculture for it. He watches cartoons, and swing dances. Some pretty strange hobbies, but that's what he likes. Me, I collect frog stuff (figurines, pictures, etc), I paint, I spend time being the cantankerous, argumentative woman I am. I don't have a lot of friends (which makes me laugh), but those I have are true blue.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, until I DECIDED that I was going to like myself, I never got a lot of male attention, and that I did get was from people who preyed on people with low self-esteem. One day I just decided to toss that life, and start a new one. Now, I get a lot of attention from men and women. Some is still negative (as people are closed-minded about overwieght people, I know), but a lot is positive. And if I didn't have the confidence to flirt, and the confidence to say "fuck the world and its consumer opinions", I'd probably still be the shy, ugly-feeling person I was when I was 17, wasting away to an eating disorder, and unhappy as all hell.

As to carpal tunnel... look. Switch hands. Or start playing with your prostate. Or learn to discipline yourself. After I was in a couple car accidents, I couldn't position my body to masturbate the way I was used to, cus of pain in the hips (and I had a fractured pelvis). I taught my body to be sensitive to other forms of touch, from myself and others. I taught myself to get off on sound, or thought. You might not be able to do that, but I've known men who could cum from the sound of a woman's voice, and just that sound and their thoughts, alone. No touch. Maybe try learning, for your wrists. Or, just suck it up, and deal with it.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Oh, and by the way, SanDguy, I'm 5'10, and I weigh more than 265. I'm overweight, but don't consider myself obese, as I am fitter than some thin people I know, and because a lot of my weight is muscle. I spent some years before my car accidents weight-training, and was actually the trainer for my high school football team, cus I knew it so well. While some of my weight is fat, and even a lot of my weight is fat, not all of it is, and much of it is because of reduced mobility after car accidents. I'm working on getting back to what I was before the 4 accidents.

You don't know all the reasons for people being overweight. Your judgements are bullshit. I'm overweight for a couple reasons, but I'm not psychopathic, neurotic, lazy, or whatever. I work hard, I play hard, I love hard.

I'm fine. Many other overweight people are overweight for reasons beyond their control. Many are overweight for things they could control, but some psychological thing gets in the way. Who are you to judge? I mean, it's okay for you to prefer someone thinner, but to sit there, and FORMULATE reasons of why fat people are fat? That's a little judgemental, don't you think?

Jesus, get over yourself.

 

[SanDguy_22]

vixen she...
go look in a mirror...

I was merely saying that those would be the reasons why i would not go for a severely obese person.

Also if you look closely i also mentioned that i dont discriminate agains over weight individuals as people...
If someone is 4'11" tall and weighs 250 lb and is full of muscle...
athletic etc... i wouldnt mind. The person might look a bit freaky but then again who am i to speak on that. ( hell i break the mirror every time i look at it.)... again im exagerating.


If you also look at some of the other things i have said you will notice that...
i dont give a damn about looks.

So go and shove your own prejudice where the sun dont shine.

 

[SadNiceGuy000]

It seems that guys like us are dead. No woman wants a normal guy that is nice. They all want someone that is chiseled out of stone. Vixenshe, you may say that you like normal guys and if that is true that is super but a tortured mind like mine can not believe that and taking medicine to "cure" my depression seems like being lobotomized like Jack Nicklson in "One Flew Over the Coo Coo's Nest". I know what you are all going to say, "alright then [insert random obsenity/insult] live a life of loneliness and misery, I don't know why I am wasting my [insert random obsenity] time with a [insert more "cruel" random obsenity/insult] like you." but if I have to change myself to get someone to like me why bother if that person is just as messed up as a freaking pervert like me.

Fantasy seems to be the only thing I can find comfort in because of the numerous responses I would more than likely get from trying to approach a woman like SanDguy has mentioned. When you have taken something like that for a while it leaves you wondering if living in a world like this is worth it and you contemplate suicide (of course I myself am too cowardly, more support to your little theories @ Tyler).

I think I will try something with someone I kinda like and see how it works. Have you ever just tried to plain out tell someone if they have a boyfriend or significant other and if not then compliment them and tell them why you are picking them for this line of questioning and then ask them why wouldn't they go out with you ("and that you will not bother them anymore if they don't want you to..." They will more than likely be freaked out, I can empathize with that right there...) and if they don't have a reason then ask them if you can get to know them and vice versa and bam you have a date @ SanDguy??

Bird'sWife: Most women find that watching anime, playing video games, and playing "children's games" like Magic or Yugioh is not something they want so in essence doesn't that mean that they find me boring so rather than keeping on trying I give up because it is so hard to find a woman that likes that and is not taken... Please empathize with my despair or do you feel that strongly that you are right (no one is perfect, I could still be wrong here or you could be...who knows??)

Vixenshe: It is good that you are confident with who you are but this is something I would do if I was to find someone that truly love me for me and not if I was some adonis:

I think I would feel guilty that said person is so great and that I am not fit for them (not only for looks but if you plan on marrying that person you have to consider your health and being obese could lead to heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, and other things that my feeble little mind can not think of at this time of day...*yawn*) but I think the only reason that I think that is because I hve no confidence like you claim to have Vixen.

I am in no way saying you should do that but that is just what I think and like I said I think I think that because of my low self-esteem or does that seem like something that would rekindle or strengthen a marriage or a relationship (keep in mind, I have never been in a relatonship (AT ALL...) and my situation here is like scientists trying to figure out Einstein's theory of relativity so I am way more ignorant (not that I am dumb or stupid, ignorant means I don't know but can know later on...) than a lot of people on this board).

Thanks for the positive comments those that did post with help, the rest, get some empathy or go find some more proactive ways of releasing your anger instead of unleashing it on a "looser".

 

[SanDguy_22]

bravo dude.....

Though the thing of it is i have done what you suggested and the end result is still the same.


Here is a question for you....
are you in to poetry or literature?

Im just looking at the over all composition and use of language within your responces not to mention at the references you have used on acation.

I think you should go and take an IQ test just for the hell of and see what you can get.

I figure your in the 160 range or so... give or take.

In any case funnier than hell.

Then again i have one really twisted sence of humor.