Call me an ass, but I have NO sympathy for this ...

[Halo_n_horns]

I'm sure a number of you would call me an ass anyway, but when I heard about this story the other day I couldn't help but laugh my ass off and comment about how Marie and her family have asked for this kind of behavior ...

27 May 2006
AND THEY CALL IT PUPPY LUST..
Marie Osmond fury at daughters' net filth
Ryan Parry Us Correspondent, In New York
SQUEAKY clean 70s pop star Marie Osmond was furious when her two teenage daughters put obscene messages and photos of themselves on the internet.

The raunchy profiles on website MySpace.com left by Jessica, 18, and Rachael, 16, were revealed by an American magazine.

Jessica, who uses the screen name "F*** Off", claimed she is bisexual and wants sex on a daily basis "as many times as possible".

She listed her favourite sexual positions and revealed other details of her sex life.

And among her heroes the teenager - raised as a Mormon like her mum - lists Adolf Hitler.

Photos of Jessica, who was adopted by Marie and her husband Brian Blosil as a child, include a close-up of her with a pierced lip. Meanwhile Rachael described herself on the site as a "whore" whose biggest fantasy is to sleep with ageing rocker David Bowie.

Her page now appears to have been removed from the website.

Marie, 46, said in a statement after reading her daughters' web comments: "I am saddened by some of the choices our children have made. Like any other parents we had hoped to deal with these challenges privately."

She added: "The insidious potential for harm from adolescent internet sites like myspace.com only exacerbates these kind of problems."

An insider close to the family said: "She's always had her hands full with her children."

Deeply religious Marie had hits in the 70s including Who's Sorry Now to become a star alongside her brother Donny.

He also had a big solo hit with And They Call It Puppy Love after years performing with their seven brothers.

The family were brought up as devout Mormons by their parents George and Olive and projected a clean-living image.

Jessica and Rachael are the second and third of Marie's eight children.

Twice-married Marie has been hit by postnatal depression, her mother having a stroke and troubles in her marriage.

In 2001 she broke down during a church service in Orem, Utah.

The MySpace social networking site claims to have more than 70 million members worldwide.

But it has sparked controversy from critics who say it attracts sexual predators who attempt to groom their victims online.

Several US students were arrested recently after posting plans for a Columbine High School-style massacre on the site.

r.parry@mirror.co.uk

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When it boils down to it, religion from birth is a practice forced on any child. The children who are brought up in these families are never given any free will to be another way, and then the parents and the rest of family have the audacity to be surprised and shocked when their children act against their beliefs.

I feel this way about any religion, but the Mormons are by far some of the worst.

Alright, start flaming me. Knock yourselves out.

 

[AngeloMichael]

You have the right to your opinion and I wouldn't call you an ass for this one.

However, I do sympathize for them. Whether they brought it upon themselves or not I feel bad for this or any family having difficulties. Having to deal with this in the public eye makes it all the worse. Again, maybe they brought it on themselves but I still feel bad. I hope whatever is bothering the children, whether this is just an act of rebellion, or something more deep seated, is alleviated.

 

[arienette]

I completely agree with the last of what you wrote, so there's no bashing going on with me. However, I have a bone to pick with the whole "Myspace Revolution".

Get the fuck over it. Yeah, teenagers are going to lie about their ages to get on that site and yeah, most of the time a cyber stalker goes after them, they fucking deserve it because they're leaving all their fucking information on the page. DUH. No, there's no way to stop it because teenagers are going to be teenagers and you can't do anything about it, no matter what kind of parent you are.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Teenagers are stupid. Period. They're so ridden by hormones that they never pause to think

"OK, so telling the whole world that I'm a slut who loves to fuck older men in groups, preferably while high, will humiliate my parents - but what if people actually BELIEVE the junk I make up about myself?
What if people I've known my whole life suddenly start walking over to the other side of the street as soon as they see me, making disgusted faces?
What if old men start hitting on me and offer me drugs in exchange for a gangbang?
What if the stuff I write on the net becomes a major jerk off fantasy for a man who'll be the head of personel when I go job-hunting as a grown-up?"

They only care about the immediate satisfaction on "getting back at mom and dad". The internet is a dangerous tool in the hands of a teenager.

And fucking up a kid's head with religious doctrines isn't laying a very good groundwork for a happy, healthy adolescence, either.

No, I don't like religion.

 

[arienette]

Teenagers are stupid. Period. They're so ridden by hormones that they never pause to think

"OK, so telling the whole world that I'm a slut who loves to fuck older men in groups, preferably while high, will humiliate my parents - but what if people actually BELIEVE the junk I make up about myself?
What if people I've known my whole life suddenly start walking over to the other side of the street as soon as they see me, making disgusted faces?
What if old men start hitting on me and offer me drugs in exchange for a gangbang?
What if the stuff I write on the net becomes a major jerk off fantasy for a man who'll be the head of personel when I go job-hunting as a grown-up?"

They only care about the immediate satisfaction on "getting back at mom and dad". The internet is a dangerous tool in the hands of a teenager.

And fucking up a kid's head with religious doctrines isn't laying a very good groundwork for a happy, healthy adolescence, either.

No, I don't like religion.

Amen.

 

[kendo1]

Look what happened to me.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Look what happened to me.

You mean your AV? IS that the typical Mormon look these days?

 

[Guest]

Look what happened to me.

Awww, you're cute.

A little makeup will really deemphasize that nose, sweetie.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

I hate to say this, but it's hard to look at the world from behind a religion. It's like a filter to the world, blocking out so many things that affect the non-religious perspective that we're actually looking at a different world than they are (and none of us are really looking at the real world, sorry to say).

Do I feel bad for them? No. I don't feel bad for that many people. ANd I'm not a bad person, I just can't sit here all day feeling bad for everyone, and there are so many victims of more serious things than your daughters being sluts that this doesn't even rank.

Q_C

 

[Huckleman2000]

My son's high school had a fairly large Morman population, and he had some good friends who were Morman, including his first 'serious' girlfriend. He used to get up really early in the morning to go with her to her religious study group before school. His mother and I never really taught him much in the way of religion. We'd go to church on Christmas with her parents, but that was about it for formal observance. We just told him that religious beliefs were private and personal, and sometimes they led people to do things that weren't really very moral. Basically, I guess the idea was that personal morality is important, and you shouldn't let religious beliefs get in the way of that.

He got on very well with her family and his other Mormon friends, probably because he was a thoughtful and challenging force, while still being a decent kid. He met the girl at the Mormon pick-up basketball games, which seem to be a common community activity.

They broke up when she seemed to want to get with a bit 'wilder' guy, and then when that turned out badly, she wanted to get back with my son.

Now enrolled at a very good Jesuit college, he continued his religious iconoclasm in the required Religious Studies class.

I think a religious upbringing is a lot harder on girls, especially when they hit the teens. There's a lot more to rebel against, and since so much of hte repression is of their sexuality, that seems to be the first way they start to act out.

Hopefully, the girls will turn out ok. This was probably predictable, but I have a hard time wishing bad parent-child relations on people. They generally don't turn out well for anyone, including society in general.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I don't know about the religion. The Osmonds were just fucking weird.

Too many teeth.

I expect Michael Jackson's kid will become an accountant and a conservative Republican.

 

[Guest]

I don't know about the religion. The Osmonds were just fucking weird.

Too many teeth.

I expect Michael Jackson's kid will become an accountant and a conservative Republican.

BWAH HA HA!

OK that's just scary.

 

[AsylumSeeker]

You have the right to your opinion and I wouldn't call you an ass for this one.

However, I do sympathize for them. Whether they brought it upon themselves or not I feel bad for this or any family having difficulties. Having to deal with this in the public eye makes it all the worse. Again, maybe they brought it on themselves but I still feel bad. I hope whatever is bothering the children, whether this is just an act of rebellion, or something more deep seated, is alleviated.

I agree with AM. His respose is thoughtful and untuitive,

 

[Liar]

When it boils down to it, religion from birth is a practice forced on any child. The children who are brought up in these families are never given any free will to be another way, and then the parents and the rest of family have the audacity to be surprised and shocked when their children act against their beliefs.

I feel this way about any religion, but the Mormons are by far some of the worst.

Alright, start flaming me. Knock yourselves out.

No flaming, just a point in fact: Apparently, the kids had enough free will to revolt aganst their parents like dammit. Free will not given, will most often find it's way anyway.

But... Hitler? I've never understood what people saw, and see, in the guy. A short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache and a full set of issues. I mean, really.

 

[yui]

But... Hitler? I've never understood what people saw, and see, in the guy. A short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache and a full set of issues. I mean, really.

Yeah. Really.

 

[AngeloMichael]

But... Hitler? I've never understood what people saw, and see, in the guy. A short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache and a full set of issues. I mean, really.

A short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache and a full set of issues that captured the will of a nation, took the combined strengths of the most powerful nations on Earth to stop, and will remain a name of infamy for the rest of history.

That's what people see.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm sure a number of you would call me an ass anyway, but when I heard about this story the other day I couldn't help but laugh my ass off and comment about how Marie and her family have asked for this kind of behavior ...



Story link:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obj...and-they-call-it-puppy-lust----name_page.html

When it boils down to it, religion from birth is a practice forced on any child. The children who are brought up in these families are never given any free will to be another way, and then the parents and the rest of family have the audacity to be surprised and shocked when their children act against their beliefs.

I feel this way about any religion, but the Mormons are by far some of the worst.

Alright, start flaming me. Knock yourselves out.

The Mormons, or members of the Curch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, might be the very worst. They are not usually given to violence but, in terms of rigidity or beliefs and oppression of women, Mormon fundamentalists are worse than some Muslim fundies. From infancy, the girls are taught that their goal in life, the finest they can aspire to, is to be good wives, have a lot of children and be good mothers to them. In other words, keep them barefoot and pregnant.

I can't blame daughters, after they see a bit of the real world, for rebelling against that kind of upbringing. The only disturbing part is that one about Hitler.

 

[yui]

A short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache and a full set of issues that captured the will of a nation, took the combined strengths of the most powerful nations on Earth to stop, and will remain a name of infamy for the rest of history.

That's what people see.

Hysterical, yeah, but he played quiet expertly on the paranoia of a nation; Hitler might have been insane, but he knew exactly how to play that moment in time, and the fears of those people, to achieve his “goals” … weird mustache and all.

Scary stuff.

 

[Liar]

A short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache and a full set of issues that captured the will of a nation, took the combined strengths of the most powerful nations on Earth to stop, and will remain a name of infamy for the rest of history.

That's what people see.

My point exactly.

How could a short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache capture the will of a nation and all that jazz?

I see that, and I go WTF?

 

[AngeloMichael]

My point exactly.

How could a short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache capture the will of a nation and all that jazz?

I see that, and I go WTF?

What Yui said. And it is scary stuff.

 

[NorthCoastSmart]

Mormons have special issues

I'll join the religion is not a positive force group. But mormons have made a particularly bad contribution on many fronts--- oppression of women, sexual abuse in the guise of religious doctrin, racism of the worst sort, etc. As to the suggestions that Mormons are not violent, their history is as or more soaked in blood than most other religions in the last 150 years. Check out a great book: Under the Banner of Heaven, which will fill you in the realiteis of Mormon thinking.
NCS

 

[Boxlicker101]

My point exactly.

How could a short, hysterical Austrian with a weird moustache capture the will of a nation and all that jazz?

I see that, and I go WTF?

He wasn't alone, you know. There were plenty of very influential Germans who saw him as a front man they could use. They were very surprised when Hitler was the one who did the using. Plus, as Yui said, he knew how to play on the fears of the German people, as well as their resentments at the harsh terms inflicted on the country by the victorious allies after WW1. Plus, he and his bully boys weren't averse to using brute force, even murder, to deal with those who might have gotten in his way.

By rhe way, Yui, that is a GREAT AV. Why don't you go over to the Lurving the Labia thread and post your own pic?

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'll join the religion is not a positive force group. But mormons have made a particularly bad contribution on many fronts--- oppression of women, sexual abuse in the guise of religious doctrin, racism of the worst sort, etc. As to the suggestions that Mormons are not violent, their history is as or more soaked in blood than most other religions in the last 150 years. Check out a great book: Under the Banner of Heaven, which will fill you in the realiteis of Mormon thinking.
NCS

I am not going to say anything good about the Mormons, and I have actually had quite a bit of association with them, but not with the radical fundies. They do have a history of violence but, to be honest, a lot of that was defending themselves against persons who resented their ideas. Furthermore, they are not as violent as Muslim fundies, which is what I meant earlier. I'm quite sure they have never flown airplanes into large buildings or blown up nightclubs or killed women for letting their ankles be seen.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Well, I expected to get flamed pretty good here. hm. Not what I'm used to.

There's a Mormon couple right across the street from us. We know them fairly well, and to be completely honest, I wouldn't trade the worst aspect of my life for the best aspect of theirs if it meant I had to buy into that crap.

I've mentioned them a few times in other threads. She's doing the baby factory thing and being the housewife with no income to speak of. They just had child #2 and are already talking about 3 and 4. You know it when you converse with her that she gets very little adult interaction.

He's the "good husband" who works 5-6 days a week for an income that is stretched thin as it is. Child #3 should break them completely.

All of their reasoning for their lifestyle is based in Mormon beliefs and upbringing. I'm fairly certain that one day we'll be getting interviewed by a police detective concerning why she drowned the children or why he went on a rampage and killed the rest of family and then comitted suicide.

I realize that's pretty horrible of me to think, but its really obvious from both of them that there is a tremendous amount of repression going on in that household. Hopefully I'll be home with my video camera when the shit hits the fan.

Religion is anti human nature, and human nature will always be the more powerful of the two one way or another.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

When it boils down to it, religion from birth is a practice forced on any child. The children who are brought up in these families are never given any free will to be another way, and then the parents and the rest of family have the audacity to be surprised and shocked when their children act against their beliefs.

I feel this way about any religion, but the Mormons are by far some of the worst.

Alright, start flaming me. Knock yourselves out.

Any kind of moral instruction, then, is a practice forced on a child. Any guideline or training or conditioning of ethical behavior is a forced practice... this is not unique to a religious upbringing any more than moral aptitude is unique to a religious upbringing. That's just silly.

Childred brought up in religious families are far from denied the ability to be any other way... evidence of this are the many, many children from religious families that grow up to be not particularly religious.

I hate to say this, but it's hard to look at the world from behind a religion. It's like a filter to the world, blocking out so many things that affect the non-religious perspective that we're actually looking at a different world than they are (and none of us are really looking at the real world, sorry to say).

Do I feel bad for them? No. I don't feel bad for that many people. ANd I'm not a bad person, I just can't sit here all day feeling bad for everyone, and there are so many victims of more serious things than your daughters being sluts that this doesn't even rank.

Q_C

I cannot agree that its difficult to look at the world from a religious point of view. Any more than I can agree that its meaningfully difficult to look at the world from just about any other set point of reference (cultural or sociological perspectives). If we are to maintain that cultural "filtering" does not occur, we are getting very biased in our view of what sufficient "filtering" is. Past that, I would say that a religious upbringing is an excellent, and more relavent, language than atheism--especially for the world we live in.