Brutal torture at the hands of US interrogators

[Mike_Yates]

According to the US government, the only interrogation methods employed against suspected terrorists are from the CIA human resource interrogation manual. This includes waterboarding, hot and cold rooms, pressure positions, slaps to the body and face, forced nudity and humiliation, barking dogs, etc...

However, anonymous insiders claim there are accounts of small children being raped and tortured to death in front of their parents at places such as Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, as well as a myriad of other secretive "blacksites" throughout the world.

If they are willing to do this, god knows the kinds of other things they do. I'm assuming that many people have been tortured to the point of death during extreme interrogation. These kinds of methods can cause the victim to bleed to death or die from shock.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

that's some real shit right there, true talk.

 

[Mike_Yates]

The war on terrorism is being shifted from Islamic radicals in the middle-east and onto domestic political dissidents and ordinary US citizens.

Soon the government is going to start disappearing thousands of people and sending them to secret torture camps to punish them for their political beliefs and not because they are terrorists.

America is headed down the same path as Germany/Russia/China. The rest of the (formerly) free world will also follow suit. If you study history, particularly the 20th century, all of this has happened before.

I wonder the people and organizations that are behind all of this, and whom is going to benefit from turning free and prosperous countries into despotic hellholes under ruthless totalitarian rule.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Life in the PRC these days is pretty good.

I don't care if the Chinese government removes the undesirables from circulation.

 

[Statist]

Life in the PRC these days is pretty good.

I don't care if the Chinese government removes the undesirables from circulation.

Hear, hear!

 

[Mike_Yates]

Life in the PRC these days is pretty good.

I don't care if the Chinese government removes the undesirables from circulation.

They ran protesters over with steamrollers at the FOXCONN factory riot. Back during the 1980's they were running people over with tanks.

Even in a totalitarian state, how can this activity possibly be justified? Not even the soviets under Stalin did those kinds of things.

China's brutality and vicious savagery to repress political dissent is a disgrace to civilized humanity. Countries that engage in these kinds of activities are scorned and demonized by the UN and western democracy.

This is the 21st century and not ancient Mongolia for Christ sake!

 

[ChinaBandit]

Being a little lean on the girls needing the extra Yuan is appreciated though!

 

[Mike_Yates]

There are bone-chilling correlations between the political developments in the US to what was starting to happen in Germany during the early 1930's, with the highly fraudulent and dubious "war on terrorism" as the guise for gradually subverting democracy and individual liberties.

The US government (controlled by a shady cabal of foreign banks and corporations) has completely refocused the war on terrorism from it's legitimate use of fighting Islamic fundamentalists in strange countries and onto it's own citizenry, in order to suppress dissent and ruthlessly enforce politically-slanted laws and policies.

If you study history, you might conclude that the United States of America is headed down the same path of totalitarianism that Germany, Russia, and China followed.

 

[ChinaBandit]

"There's winners and losers baby, and don't get on caught on the wrong side of that line." The Boss

 

[removed020613]

I'd hate to admit it, but I think Mikey has a point.

 

[dirtycarol]

I'd hate to admit it, but I think Mikey has a point.

Indeed he does! We, the people need to stick together and protect ourselves from our own government. Sad,but true anymore.

 

[removed020613]

Mikey, you can read unclassified portions of the "CIA human resource exploitation interrogation manual" here.

Some of the text has been redacted for obvious reasons..

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB27/02-01.htm

It states that information extracted from subjects under torture is not reliable because that person will say absolutely anything the interrogator wants to hear just to get the punishment to stop.

 

[garbage can]

However, anonymous insiders claim there are accounts of small children being raped and tortured to death in front of their parents at places such as Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, as well as a myriad of other secretive "blacksites" throughout the world.

If they are willing to do this, god knows the kinds of other things they do. I'm assuming that many people have been tortured to the point of death during extreme interrogation. These kinds of methods can cause the victim to bleed to death or die from shock.

Yates, do you know any American men or women who would participate in the above?

I don't.

 

[hummermania]

Yates, do you know any American men or women who would participate in the above?

I don't.

I presume you personally know all (roughly) 180 million adult Americans?

Fact is, people from every country in the world throughout history have abused the power they have over others.

Yes, Americans too, and yes, especially Americans.

 

[hummermania]

They ran protesters over with steamrollers at the FOXCONN factory riot. Back during the 1980's they were running people over with tanks.

Even in a totalitarian state, how can this activity possibly be justified? Not even the soviets under Stalin did those kinds of things.
China's brutality and vicious savagery to repress political dissent is a disgrace to civilized humanity. Countries that engage in these kinds of activities are scorned and demonized by the UN and western democracy.

This is the 21st century and not ancient Mongolia for Christ sake!

Wrong - Stalin was an absolute brutal massacreist. Check the history books.

 

[Squibbs]

Yates, do you know any American men or women who would participate in the above?

I don't.

An American would never do that!

 

[dan_c00000]

There is currently a whistleblower being prosecuted (I would argue persecuted) for bringing this information to light. Keep in mind that the person who blew the whistle did NOT participate in torture.

Also, please don’t forget the NYPD spying on Muslim members of varies communities in the tri-state area and on college campuses.

I think Bill Maher described it best, “This week was the anniversary of 9/11 and the beginning of the war on terror. Which we totally won. But, government will never admit that, because the greedy money-machine known as the military-industrial complex sniffed out a source of cash like a pig on a truffle. And they will never let it go. Homeland Security is a bloated, federal monstrosity that eats our wealth and lives beyond our reproach, and we pay them $75 billion to do it. And we will from now until forever.

Because "free" is only the first part of "freedom." The other part is "dumb.”

 

[Super-Surprise]

Is it safe? mike, is it safe?

Is it safe? mike, is it safe?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzw1_2b-I7A

 

[removed020613]

There is currently a whistleblower being prosecuted (I would argue persecuted) for bringing this information to light. Keep in mind that the person who blew the whistle did NOT participate in torture.

Also, please don’t forget the NYPD spying on Muslim members of varies communities in the tri-state area and on college campuses.

I think Bill Maher described it best, “This week was the anniversary of 9/11 and the beginning of the war on terror. Which we totally won. But, government will never admit that, because the greedy money-machine known as the military-industrial complex sniffed out a source of cash like a pig on a truffle. And they will never let it go. Homeland Security is a bloated, federal monstrosity that eats our wealth and lives beyond our reproach, and we pay them $75 billion to do it. And we will from now until forever.

Because "free" is only the first part of "freedom." The other part is "dumb.”

The only reason why we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan is because of the financial interests of the military industrial complex. Other than that, both wars have been entirely won.

 

[JackLuis]

The only reason why we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan is because of the financial interests of the military industrial complex. Other than that, both wars have been entirely won.

I agree with the first sentence, but since we won, where's our Cupie Doll.

No one has won in Afghanistan since Gengus Kahn.

 

[Mike_Yates]

I agree with the first sentence, but since we won, where's our Cupie Doll.

No one has won in Afghanistan since Gengus Kahn.

Most of the high-profile "terrorists" talked about on TV are actually deep-cover operatives working for US/British/Israeli/Pakistani intelligence. Osama Bin Laden had very well-documented ties to the CIA and is most likely still alive and kicking today.

The war on terrorism is an extremely elaborate facade orchestrated by shady criminal elements of the government and military industrial complex in order to be exploited for political and financial purposes. After the end of the cold war, the defense industry had lost roughly half of it's profits and market share, so in order to ensure continued profits, they needed an event (9/11 black operation) and war (Iraq and Afghanistan) in order to maintain their profits and status quo.

The war on terror is being used for global hegemony and increased profits for the armaments industry. Much like the war on drugs, it is entirely corrupt, fraudulent, and illegitimate. If you do the research, you will conclude that the military industrial complex is the greediest, most destructive, and most profoundly evil establishment in all of human history. This reckless greed almost resulted in full-scale global thermonuclear war on many separate occasions.

The military is not about freedom and liberation, it is about money and power.

 

[Jagged]

A fictional story from a fictional hero.

 

[JackLuis]

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The war on terror is being used for global hegemony and increased profits for the armaments industry. Much like the war on drugs, it is entirely corrupt, fraudulent, and illegitimate. The military industrial complex is the greediest, most destructive, and most evil establishment in all of human history.

Look deeper Mike, it is all about Money, and who deals in Money? Right, Bankers. Not you local BofA Manager, but the ones in $2500 suits that fly private jets. They "finance" the Mil-Indus-Complex. Which means that they skim, "just a Taste" from every transaction and never are left holding the bag. All the rest are Tools!

Muahaha!

 

[Mike_Yates]

A fictional story from a fictional hero.

I'm sorry?.....

 

[dan_c00000]

The only reason why we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan is because of the financial interests of the military industrial complex. Other than that, both wars have been entirely won.

Totally agree.

Though saying we "won" isn't exactly true. When you consider what we won are hundreds of thousands of people dead or wounded, billions of dollars spent on the killing and wounding (which could have been used for health care, poverty, education, building roads, creating jobs etc.), an even more volatile Middle East, and of course a tarnished reputation as the world's premier empire of exporting destruction.