Bringing a girl to her first orgasm?

[Adrraiya]

Here's the god's honest truth.

If you have had sex with eleven women, and did not stimulate their clitoris during intercourse, and they did not stimulate their clitoris during intercourse, and they still had an orgasm...there's a HUGE chance at least most of the women you've slept with are faking it.

Why? Because young men don't like to stimulate a woman properly, for whatever reason. And women are embarrassed to admit that the vagina isn't sensitive enough for their pleasure most of the time. Porn is a HUGE factor in this, since clitoral stimulation is minimal or nil and fake orgasms abound.

This is not a slap on you. Most men have NO IDEA how important the clitoris is to a woman's pleasure because of a variety of reasons, but it is. Saying that you're SURE the women you've slept with can orgasm without it is possible, but REALLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY!

I'm not trying to be disrespectful of you, but saying things like you want to 'wean' a girl off clitoral stimulation is really ignorant, because would YOU want to be 'weaned' of penile stimulation during intimacy? If a woman you're with orgasms through clitoral stimulation there is NO NEED to futz with her pleasure. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

There has been a lot of heat in this thread and I've had to leave and calm down before posting more than once, I'll admit. But you've got to understand the majority of people that have posted here have told you the SAME thing, and that really -should- count for something to you. The clitoris IS the female penis, and if you like stimulation to your penis and don't want someone messing around with how you get your pleasure, DON'T DO IT TO SOMEONE ELSE!

I think we should locate this girlfriend... and convince her to "wean" him off of receiving oral sex from her... of course, he most likely can get off during intercourse... but why not remove the variety in the closest manner we can come up with.....

 

[Adrraiya]

Here's the god's honest truth.

If you have had sex with eleven women, and did not stimulate their clitoris during intercourse, and they did not stimulate their clitoris during intercourse, and they still had an orgasm...there's a HUGE chance at least most of the women you've slept with are faking it.

Why? Because young men don't like to stimulate a woman properly, for whatever reason. And women are embarrassed to admit that the vagina isn't sensitive enough for their pleasure most of the time. Porn is a HUGE factor in this, since clitoral stimulation is minimal or nil and fake orgasms abound.

This is not a slap on you. Most men have NO IDEA how important the clitoris is to a woman's pleasure because of a variety of reasons, but it is. Saying that you're SURE the women you've slept with can orgasm without it is possible, but REALLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY!

I'm not trying to be disrespectful of you, but saying things like you want to 'wean' a girl off clitoral stimulation is really ignorant, because would YOU want to be 'weaned' of penile stimulation during intimacy? If a woman you're with orgasms through clitoral stimulation there is NO NEED to futz with her pleasure. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

There has been a lot of heat in this thread and I've had to leave and calm down before posting more than once, I'll admit. But you've got to understand the majority of people that have posted here have told you the SAME thing, and that really -should- count for something to you. The clitoris IS the female penis, and if you like stimulation to your penis and don't want someone messing around with how you get your pleasure, DON'T DO IT TO SOMEONE ELSE!

Actually.... the clitoris... is the closest thing a woman has to a penis... but it has more highly concentrates nerve endings & such.... therefore it is MORE SENSITIVE than a man's penis.... even more sensitive than the head of a man's penis

 

[Adrraiya]

i've never heard anyone make such a statement. ever. but since you consider yourself so well informed on the subject, you clearly must aware that the vast majority of women report being incapable of orgasming through vaginal stimulation. the percentage is either 80% or 90%, i forget which.

some women can. but this is absolutely a minority of the female population.

the problem you've been having is that you're suffering from the classic mistake of thinking clitoral orgasms are lesser. are you somehow not understanding all of the women in this thread telling you that you're wrong about that?

ed

Perhaps this is because he is "a natural" and hasn't bothered to learn rather than go on what "nature" gave him....

and just as any natural ballerina without lessons has no real knowledge of the art of ballet... this young "naturally gifted" man has no real knowledge of the art of pleasuring women during sex

The real problem is that he has made the classic mistake that his cock is what brings a women pleasure rather than every single other he does.... he is apparently not very aware that the brain is really the most important sex organ...

I will add this.. if he is as arrogant in person as he appears in Lit (see also the other threads he has posted in)... then a young girl might even feel like she HAS to FAKE ORGASM in order to do what girls are taught they must (please the man, even at the cost of self).... girls his age who are having sex with guys like him... those girls haven't yet learned that they can not fake it & if they don't fake it, then the guy will realize they need to learn more

--- Celtic Knotted.... I have a thought for you.... go find you a Cougar... someone who knows what she wants & needs sexually... then give her the best ya got.. including your tactic of "weaning" her off clitoral orgasm....

then let's see what she has to say about your "natural abilities"

 

[CelticKnotted]

Hey folks...long time, no update.

Anyway, I am pleased to inform you all that my girlfriend now averages three or four orgasms during sex. I have successfully made her orgasm without stimulating her clitoris directly. I've brought her to g-spot orgasms. I've also brought her to, as they have been described to me several times as, "continuous orgasms" (orgasms that continue until I stop thrusting or change positions).

******

I say this as a PSA to all the men seeking "advice" for how to please a woman. Don't talk to the women themselves, be selective in the books you read, and DON'T GET ADVICE FROM INTERNET FORUMS.

Talk to a man who has been successful at doing the things you want to do. If that is starting a business, don't take the majority of you advice from the customers, no matter how much you care about them. Talk to a businessman who has been very successful in your field. Similarly, if you want to get good at bringing a woman to orgasm, talk to a man who has actually done so with a high degree of success.

 

[satindesire]

Hey folks...long time, no update.

Anyway, I am pleased to inform you all that my girlfriend now averages three or four orgasms during sex. I have successfully made her orgasm without stimulating her clitoris directly. I've brought her to g-spot orgasms. I've also brought her to, as they have been described to me several times as, "continuous orgasms" (orgasms that continue until I stop thrusting or change positions).

******

I say this as a PSA to all the men seeking "advice" for how to please a woman. Don't talk to the women themselves, be selective in the books you read, and DON'T GET ADVICE FROM INTERNET FORUMS.

Talk to a man who has been successful at doing the things you want to do. If that is starting a business, don't take the majority of you advice from the customers, no matter how much you care about them. Talk to a businessman who has been very successful in your field. Similarly, if you want to get good at bringing a woman to orgasm, talk to a man who has actually done so with a high degree of success.

*Sighs*

Well, I tried.

 

[CelticKnotted]

*Sighs*

Well, I tried.

I don't plan on posting here anymore, but this went up so fast I had to comment.

Just a proposal--at 10,000+ posts on here and being able available to throw up a response within two minutes of my posting, you may want to consider the last paragraph of my post, unless your goal is to get really good at posting on message boards.

 

[satindesire]

I don't plan on posting here anymore, but this went up so fast I had to comment.

Just a proposal--at 10,000+ posts on here and being able available to throw up a response within two minutes of my posting, you may want to consider the last paragraph of my post, unless your goal is to get really good at posting on message boards.

You know, I find your attitude absolutely disgusting. I was nothing but polite and respectful to you on this thread, and the people here, not JUST women, tried their hardest to help you. Blind stubbornness is not a flattering trait.

You bringing up my post count makes it clear that you have nothing of value to say. When a troll can't find anything to troll about, they'll point out something innane to insult the person they're going after about, like for instance, "being good at posting on message boards." I replied to you quickly because like most people, I automatically subscribe to the threads that I post in. It's part of the OPTIONS on this website.

If I wasn't good at posting on message boards, I wouldn't have been here to try and help you. If I remember correctly, you THANKED me for trying to help you.

I've been here on this site for OVER five years, which makes my average post count PER DAY less than five. So what's your point? Care to try insulting me over the fact that I'm attractive? Or smart? Or have a great family? "Oh, you have two kids, so you must be a great mom!"

Oooh, burn!

Please. Really, please, I'd love to see what this wonderful girlfriend of yours has to say in a year or two when she's sick of you never touching her clitoris FOR NO REAL REASON AT ALL, and tells you that she NEEDS stimulation there. Are you going to be shocked when she does? Or are you going to think back to this thread and feel bad for insulting the people who attempted to help you even though you acted like an insufferable moron?

 

[littlebabyclit]

Wow satindesire...that was a really hostile post. Much much more hostile than the OP ever was to you. The OP is entitled to his opinions whether you like them or not. If she's cumming 3 or 4 times during sex now, I'd hazard a guess and opine his GF is pretty happy and who are you to assume she isn't ? You'll hate my chiming in and my opinion too but damn...that was so uncalled for a response in my humble opinion.

 

[culloden]

This really seems like an odd thing - more of a power play than anything else.

I've been with a few women, and the one constant was that they were all different. What worked for one didn't necessarily work for another. I don't see why a guy would care what got a gal off, as long as he figured out just what that was. And half the fun is figuring out what works for her.

 

[satindesire]

Wow satindesire...that was a really hostile post. Much much more hostile than the OP ever was to you. The OP is entitled to his opinions whether you like them or not. If she's cumming 3 or 4 times during sex now, I'd hazard a guess and opine his GF is pretty happy and who are you to assume she isn't ? You'll hate my chiming in and my opinion too but damn...that was so uncalled for a response in my humble opinion.

Thanks for sharing your opinion but I'm taking a guess that you didn't read the entire thread.

It's been said before, don't mess with the bull, or you get the horns.

 

[unicorn64]

Can you clarify something?

I'm wondering why she hasn't been stimulating her clitoris manually before, every other time you guys have had sex.

Since most women on the planet need some form of clitoral stimulation in order to orgasm, this is extremely NORMAL for most women looking to orgasm during intercourse. Were you both unaware of the importance of the clitoris to many women's orgasm? Or too embarrassed to do it?

I did not know anything about a clitoris. Until I was 63 it was my pee pee and I didn't know anything about the importance of it. In fact most of my life I had been told women don't orgasm. Course I only had men who got me wet enough to insert, pump three or four times, shoot and pull out. I hate to say how many partners I had in 45 years of sex and did not have an orgasm. Only after my sexual desire reawakened at 63, on year ago, and I started an internet search for how to orgasm did I finally learn what I never knew. Still haven't orgasmed in partnered sex. Once in a while using the magic wand and 2 hours or more of playing do I finally have a body shaking orgasm. After I finally figured out that the urge to pee during sex was a sign that I was getting ready to squirt and quit holding it did I finally cum. Now I need to get the two of them together, body shaking and squishing at the same time. At 64 soon to be 65 it is highly unlikely to happen. Hubby is 75 with brain damage, ed, and dementia. So I will die never having had one. It took me almost 9 months to get the nerve endings from my clit to my brain to establish and finally come close to it. Society, parents not knowing either, and poor sex training and as I found out even improper education don't help. Course never having met a man who was interested in anything more than getting himself off didn't help. The-Clitoris.com helped me figure out more than I knew in my whole life.But I still think if I would have had a man who used foreplay and gentleness and got me to relax and let go I could have one. Now I know it will take a patient, knowledgeable man to bring me to one just isn't going to be from a quickie or by being in a hurry to get himself off. Not one who wants me to hold it and not cum till he says its ok. Or wants me to rush in a quickie. I know most men don't like foreplay and that doesn't help a woman either. You have to block out everything but the foreplay and not let the latest tv show be playing in the background to take my mind off what he does to me. Although I finally made up my mind that I would not suck a guys cock until he had performed oral sex on me and played with me for a while. Because another thing I figured out as soon as he ejaculates he is done. I tried numerous times to suck a guy more to get him hard so he could at least come in my pussy but never had a guy including my husband who got get off again ever.

 

[WhipLuvr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response

Something very interesting I thought you could try. If you can't make her cum sexually, try some of the things listed here and see if you can bring her pleasure that way. It might open her up to the sensation of a sexual orgasm when the time comes.