Brexit effects?

[Hypoxia]

Has it sunk in yet? Will Brexit affect your writing? Hey UK'ers, will this give you more or less time or material to write? Has anyone planned any Brexit-based LIT stories? There's a nice metaphor: the Leavers are fuckers, the Remains are fucked. Will we see any interesting literature from this?

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Its awful. The Brit pound will cost less so the rest of us can afford more Brit stuff or vacations. The PIGS will hafta go to work.

 

[oggbashan]

The real possibilities are for conflict between male and female over which way to vote, and which way they voted (or their friends did).

The referendum has fractured friendships, families and possibly some marriages.

 

[Handley_Page]

The real possibilities are for conflict between male and female over which way to vote, and which way they voted (or their friends did).

The referendum has fractured friendships, families and possibly some marriages.

An old pal of mine has avowed never to phone me after I told him that I was pro-Exit and he Pro-remain.

But frankly, I think it will take a while for things to happen (apart from the shrieking, wailing and "I demand a re-count /new referendum" mob).
The actual process seems to be quite involved, requiring the repealing of several laws enabling supremacy of some EU laws. Nobody seems to have grasped the mettle - yet.

 

[OliviaM]

Has it sunk in yet? Will Brexit affect your writing? Hey UK'ers, will this give you more or less time or material to write? Has anyone planned any Brexit-based LIT stories? There's a nice metaphor: the Leavers are fuckers, the Remains are fucked. Will we see any interesting literature from this?

People will joke, but, yeah. When any economy tanks, people have less time for creative or recreational activities, including writing erotica (unless they're already doing it for a living). This move is already affecting markets across the world, not just in the UK.

As an American, I just feel bad for everyone who voted Remain and now has to be affected by this. There are so many tragic stories out there about people who will have their lives personally ruined by this.

Story prompts:
A British girl studying abroad has to choose between going home or making the final commitment to her European boyfriend/girlfriend
Tense negotiations between British and European businesses are worked out with a massive orgy in a corporate boardroom
UKIP voter's hot wife falls for an immigrant (post this in Loving Wives for extra hilarity)

Story titles as prompts:
I Remained in Her Brexit
Plugging His Chunnel

Haha. Sorry, sorry. I'm making myself laugh.

 

[Bramblethorn]

One MP already murdered (and promptly erased by Nigel "without a shot being fired" Farage), neo-Nazis coming out of the woodwork, Sikh doctors being abused by their patients, Polish people beaten unconscious in the streets, several of my friends devastated by the outcome, recession looming... looking for smutty story potential is not high on my list right now. Starting to wonder if I need to reconsider my plans to visit UK in a couple of months' time.

 

[someoneyouknow]

What I posted in the WTF thread:

http://67.media.tumblr.com/a746f3113c61748b7c8d60c19179848c/tumblr_o9dktd0s8m1rq1pj8o1_1280.jpg

 

[OliviaM]

One MP already murdered (and promptly erased by Nigel "without a shot being fired" Farage), neo-Nazis coming out of the woodwork, Sikh doctors being abused by their patients, Polish people beaten unconscious in the streets, several of my friends devastated by the outcome, recession looming... looking for smutty story potential is not high on my list right now. Starting to wonder if I need to reconsider my plans to visit UK in a couple of months' time.

Yeah, sorry if I came off as disrespectful. For me, sometimes laughing is the only way I can cope. (So glad for John Oliver) This whole mess is so horrible and unnecessary.

 

[Handley_Page]

That 350million was the GROSS figure. the net is nearer to 180 million.
Bloody politicians cannot get things right at a vital time.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Yeah, sorry if I came off as disrespectful. For me, sometimes laughing is the only way I can cope. (So glad for John Oliver) This whole mess is so horrible and unnecessary.

nah, I didn't mean to come across as "people shouldn't joke about it". Most of my UK friends are coping through black humour. Just that it's not something I, personally, am in a place to joke about.

As for story ideas, well, there's this: https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/

 

[slutindianwife]

Brexit? What is it?

 

[oggbashan]

Brexit? What is it?

It's when your boobs fall out of your bra.

 

[lovecraft68]

Brexit sounds like the name of a movie Villain.

Maybe they can put it in the next (200th?) Bond movie

 

[Carnevil9]

Brexit to Breedin'.

A small town attempts to secede from the country they happen to be in, so they can repeal all laws forbiding polygamy/polygyny/polyandry within the town and have multiple spouses and dozens of interrelated offspring. Hilarity ensues.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

One MP already murdered (and promptly erased by Nigel "without a shot being fired" Farage), neo-Nazis coming out of the woodwork, Sikh doctors being abused by their patients, Polish people beaten unconscious in the streets, several of my friends devastated by the outcome, recession looming... looking for smutty story potential is not high on my list right now. Starting to wonder if I need to reconsider my plans to visit UK in a couple of months' time.

They could probably use the tourist dollars, and unless you're of a nationality that screams "I'm here to take your job" I don't see a problem.

The markets got caught with their pants down, and politicians got embarrassed out of office, but England will bounce back. The plot bunnies will come out of Europe, where if I guess right the EU is going to start a slow, messy unraveling. We live in interesting times.

 

[Bramblethorn]

They could probably use the tourist dollars, and unless you're of a nationality that screams "I'm here to take your job" I don't see a problem.

Don't forget "and white" there. Plenty of UK citizens who've lived all their life in the country are still targets for being the wrong ethnicity, and since the Leave campaign ran heavily on racism, both blatant and coded, the BNP types have taken this as license to escalate. We're talking about the sort of people who stand outside schools yelling abuse at children here.

A couple of months from now, those types may have figured out that they were lied to, and the Leave vote actually won't mean curbing immigration. I don't expect they will take that very well.

Oh, also, "and cis + straight". If you click the image I posted above, you'll note the neo-Nazis declaring "no tolerance" for homosexuality. Do I need to spell out what that sort of shit implies for the personal safety of people like me and my loved ones who might not pass as "normal"?

(No, I'm not saying that everybody who voted Leave is racist or homophobic. But when people don't work hard enough to curb those of their fellow campaigners who are fanning the flames, well... the standard you condone is the standard you accept.)

Edit: and even some of those "safe" nationalities might not be as safe as you'd think... https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/747558292025655296

The markets got caught with their pants down, and politicians got embarrassed out of office, but England will bounce back.

(1) Good luck with that. There's a LOT of uncertainty ahead; the Leave campaigners didn't work out a plan for what would happen if they won. They spent their time promising everybody ponies and 350 million a week on the NHS, and now they're backpedalling frantically. It's not clear whether there will even be an Article 50 notification.

If not, then the vote has no legal consequences - it's not actually binding, and while Cameron promised to respect the outcome, there have been plenty of broken promises already in this campaign. But politically, it's like telling your partner "I hate you and I want a divorce!" then changing your mind. You might stay together, but things won't be the same after.

If the UK does leave... well. That will require a hell of a lot of renegotiation of trade arrangements. (Whitehall doesn't have enough professional trade negotiators to handle that - in a tremendous irony, they would have to import them.) The EU is not going to make that easy, because it's against their interests to tell other countries "you can leave us and still enjoy the perks of membership". Years of uncertainty during which nobody will want to make long-term commitments - we all know what that does to an economy, right?

Science and medicine in the UK are already being trashed by this result. A lot of scientific funding comes through the EU; although that hasn't stopped yet, UK scientists (and EU scientists working in the UK) are already having to make decisions about their long-term career. Quite a few medical specialists will leave, either because of residency issues or because they don't fancy being abused by their own patients.

(2) "United Kingdom" != "England". Scotland voted heavily for Remain, and may well secede over this in order to stay in/rejoin the EU.

Northern Ireland is really going to be messy; this has potential to fuck the Irish peace process. Ian Paisley Jr. is encouraging his constituents to apply for Republic passports, that's how serious this is in NI. Ian Paisley!

 

[OliviaM]

nah, I didn't mean to come across as "people shouldn't joke about it". Most of my UK friends are coping through black humour. Just that it's not something I, personally, am in a place to joke about.

As for story ideas, well, there's this: https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/

Haha! Chuck Tingle is the smutty hero we need.

 

[Hypoxia]

Ian Paisley Jr. is encouraging his constituents to apply for Republic passports, that's how serious this is in NI. Ian Paisley!

Up the Republic!

And follow the money.

 

[karaline]

nah, I didn't mean to come across as "people shouldn't joke about it". Most of my UK friends are coping through black humour. Just that it's not something I, personally, am in a place to joke about.

As for story ideas, well, there's this: https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G/

Yeah, I'm not really in a place where I can joke about this just yet, but you guys go right ahead.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Its awful. The Brit pound will cost less so the rest of us can afford more Brit stuff or vacations. The PIGS will hafta go to work.

ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

wrong.

i'm still loafing around in the pool drinking beer.

now fuck off, loser.

 

[beachbum1958]

Science and medicine in the UK are already being trashed by this result. A lot of scientific funding comes through the EU; although that hasn't stopped yet, UK scientists (and EU scientists working in the UK) are already having to make decisions about their long-term career. Quite a few medical specialists will leave, either because of residency issues or because they don't fancy being abused by their own patients.

Even before the hustings heated-up in the run-up to the day, the xenophobia and racism of the 'Leave' campaign was making itself felt; my wife Lori is an American, of part Korean descent (her grandmother was Korean)and she is the de-facto head of paediatric counselling and Psychotherapy at the hospital where she's based, but she's also a cardiologist of note, and a damned good surgeon. As is the unwritten rule at her place of work, she takes her turn in the Accident & Emergency rota, just like all the other doctors and consultants, and time after time she'd come home and tell me that, entirely according to the rules of the NHS trust and the hospital, she'd refused treatment to some lout, male and female, who'd called her names, told her all fucking foreigners should be kicked out, or threatened her with violence, that she was only allowed in because the EU made it possible, that she should be working in a Bangkok brothel yadda yadda yadda.

These are people she'd been trying to help, and they're refusing to let her touch them because she's not pure WASP. Her response was usually along the lines of 'Fine, bleed, here's a band-aid, get out and don't come back', and the hospital would blacklist them for threatening and abusive behaviour. She also used to do a locum stint in our local GP practice, but lately, people who've been to our house, attended our parties, and whose children have had their shots from her have been walking out of the surgery when they see she's the doctor and told the receptionist they want to see someone else, that they don't want her treating them.

She's at home now recovering from a serious assault; a 14 year old boy beat her so savagely she sustained a subdural haematoma and needed an emergency craniotomy to relieve the pressure on her brain. She's been recuperating at home for nearly three months now, and, in light of the result of the referendum, and the rising tide of racism and hate, she's undecided whether to ever return to medicine in this country; actually, she's more like 80/20 leave or stay, that's how disillusioned and scared she is.

We're flying down to Cannes later this week, where she has a job interview; she got the call this morning, and if she's successful we're moving there as soon as we can, and the NHS will have lost both a dedicated surgeon and a skilled paediatric psychotherapist and forensic psychologist.

She has spent most of her working life in the UK helping children who've suffered serious abuse, nearly 18 years, and she doesn't want to go, but her personal safety is now an issue; she doesn't feel safe at work, nor in her daily life. Quite frankly, I'm in complete agreement with her; she comes first, and where she goes, I go; the hospital that's asked her come for an interview has a brand new cardiovascular surgical unit, a child psychiatry unit, and a full orthopaedic and trauma unit, so I may well apply for a job there too.

 

[oggbashan]

Up the Republic!

And follow the money.

The money? One of the ways the Irish and Northern Irish got money out of the EU was by moving livestock across the border and back again to receive subsidies. They, and the livestock, got bored with that, so they just moved paperwork.

And people claim the Irish are stupid? It was a brilliant scheme while it lasted.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

actually. fuck it.

 

[beachbum1958]

so if the vote had been remain and the offer had come in anyway - would you still be considering a move to the south of france?

If it was just me, I'd stay and tough it out, and wait for the furore and hysteria to die down; I love it here, this is my home, it's where my family's from, where we've lived for almost 900 years. The verbal assaults on my wife, and now the physical assault, that's something else; she collapsed at home and it was only because I recognised what had happened that she's still alive today.

Before the Brexit campaign fanned the flames, there was nothing of note; she was the local primary school doctor, she was one of the nursery and reception storytellers, she was part of village life; if anyone had any objections, they kept it to themselves, apart from the local WI refusing to let her join, then requesting (demanding) that we give them the use of out paddock for their fete, there was nothing that she found particularly objectionable. This feeling of being under attack has been building for probably the last year or so; we've been getting some pretty loud hints that she was becoming a target, elevated verbal, assaults at the hospital, people making gestures and passing comments behind her in queue's, shopkeepers ignoring her or being rude and speaking to her like she was retarded, because all foreigners are retarded, right? that's why you have to speak to them slowly and as insultingly as possible.

London may be diluting the effect, but out here in the sticks it's plain and obvious, and she's scared about what comes next. No matter what the result, the hate and xenophobia that was so much a part of the 'Leave' campaign was going to remain long after the anger at the result has faded. The 'Leave' supporters now believe they have carte-blanche to attack all foreigners, because everything's their fault. When you deal with simpletons, you should expect simplistic reasoning.

Now she drives around in my battered old Defender, because someone in the village keyed her beautiful XK120 hard enough to crease the metal, the people in the local shops don't see her, so we shop in Oxford, which is causing even more rumblings in the village, as we don't spend any money anywhere there anymore. Why should we? These people are our neighbours, Lori used to treat their kids, now they act like they're going to catch something foreign from her. It's apparently enough for them to know she's from foreign parts, and to the local yokels, foreign parts are more objectionable than private parts.

She's even resigned her governorship from the school, which she loved, as she feels she's no longer part of the community; not one person from the village sent her a card or came and saw her to enquire about her health after she came out of hospital, it's like she doesn't exist here any more. So we're going if it works for her on Friday.

 

[oggbashan]

Beachbum1958,

I'm sorry that your wife has been so badly treated and that there is so much hatred.

My experience locally, even though the district voted for Leave, is that there is very little hostility to those from other countries and they are welcome in community activities.

I can't pronounce the name of one of my GPs but she is a good doctor. The doctor who is most unpopular in the surgery is an Englishman who has little tolerance of hypocondriacs but mainly because he is brusque in manner.

My dentists are Finnish and one is now a British citizen. They are popular members of the community even if some of their Finnish fish dishes are hard to appreciate.

The President of the Chamber of Commerce is Lebanese. One of the prominent local businessmen is Turkish and Muslim. Neither have any problems with abuse except from the drunken or drugged teenagers who are a problem to everyone. Even a couple of those are foreign - Hong Kong Chinese and Bulgarian but most are home grown.

BUT - we have hundreds of foreign students coming to our town every summer and have had since 1948. They sometimes get racially abused by the same teenage assholes who are a pain to everyone. That isn't new. It has been a feature of our town that we have been fighting for generations.