bottle fun

[Owlz]

:::::::::::::no bottle here, still waves to the lovely sheath::::::::::

 

[sheath]

:::::::::::::no bottle here, still waves to the lovely sheath::::::::::

Howdy there, my favorite owl!

S.

 

[Mstrskey]

True enough....

that and I was quite curious as to what kind of a life a person has that they get their kicks off breaking down the physics involved in the use of household objects as sex toys?????

LOL...my poor husband just read my earlier post over my shoulder and his eyes popped out of his head...whoa there, who's Sheath and why are you going to kiss her for having playing with a bottle? I nearly peed my pants I laughed so hard!

 

[sheath]

Re: True enough....

that and I was quite curious as to what kind of a life a person has that they get their kicks off breaking down the physics involved in the use of household objects as sex toys?????

LOL...my poor husband just read my earlier post over my shoulder and his eyes popped out of his head...whoa there, who's Sheath and why are you going to kiss her for having playing with a bottle? I nearly peed my pants I laughed so hard!

That poor man must be completely lost by now! lol

S.

 

[Mstrskey]

Re: Re: True enough....

That poor man must be completely lost by now! lol

S.

Yup! I let him read the whole thread, explaning would be to confusing. It's like that Mandy Patinkin line from The Princess Bride " Lemme 'splain...no no is to much, lemme sum up."
Well anyhoo he read the whole thing and then gives me this kiss on the head and says-
shit like this is why I only come here for the pictures.

 

[sheath]

Re: Re: Re: True enough....

Yup! I let him read the whole thread, explaning would be to confusing. It's like that Mandy Patinkin line from The Princess Bride " Lemme 'splain...no no is to much, lemme sum up."
Well anyhoo he read the whole thing and then gives me this kiss on the head and says-
shit like this is why I only come here for the pictures.

LMAO

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[sheath]

Pictures? They have pictures here!??!?!?

There are a few stories lurking around, too...I could have sworn I saw some of them the other night...now if only I could find them again...

S.

 

[Lust Engine]

Pictures? They have pictures here!??!?!?

I understand they have pictures of ways to keep pearls warm here... somewhere.

(inside joke...literally)

 

[EarnestImp]

And I would also like to note, in your first post on this thread, you said: "...I want to know the physics involved."

Okay...I just gotta know. If you have two degrees in physics, then you obviously know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to the science. So, why did you bother asking a question that you obviously can answer by yourself?

Because I can't answer it by myself, at least not without some additional head scratching and additional research. But I can recognise invalid arguments. And I can appreciate it when people enlighten me with good arguments.

Back to the actual subject of the thread: After searching about on the web for pages about foreign object insertion, I am fairly convinced that there is nothing inherently dangerous about hollow objects, and by themselves they do not cause a vacuum. The problem is things that are too big and cause a tight seal, without any means to pull them back out. But this was not completely obvious to me initially, though I found all the talk about a hollow space creating a vacuum suspect. And it completely contradicts the answers given in this thread.

Does this explain why I bothered asking a question that I obviously can answer by yourself?

In my first post, I said "Perhaps you're right, ....." - I was quite willing to admit that I might be wrong.

 

[EarnestImp]

cultures

The extremely negative reactions in this thread probably points out a cultural difference. When I first began attending scientific talks, I was suprised at the apparently belligerent attitude of the questions directed at the speaker at the end of the talk.

Is this because the audience hated the speaker? No, it is because they wanted to torture-test his ideas, to subject his ideas to criticisms, to see if he could come up with valid rebuttals to their critiques. This is how scientific inquiry works. It appears hostile, but in reality it is merely rigorous.

 

[Mstrskey]

Pictures? They have pictures here!??!?!?

I was taken aback by this too, but the old man took me to this place that was nothing but pictures! A whole freakin forum of them, and ya know what? They have nekked peeps in those pics! Whoda thunk it?

 

[Lust Engine]

I was taken aback by this too, but the old man took me to this place that was nothing but pictures! A whole freakin forum of them, and ya know what? They have nekked peeps in those pics! Whoda thunk it?

The things you find on a sexual forum..sheesh!

 

[sheath]

Re: cultures

The extremely negative reactions in this thread probably points out a cultural difference. When I first began attending scientific talks, I was suprised at the apparently belligerent attitude of the questions directed at the speaker at the end of the talk.

Is this because the audience hated the speaker? No, it is because they wanted to torture-test his ideas, to subject his ideas to criticisms, to see if he could come up with valid rebuttals to their critiques. This is how scientific inquiry works. It appears hostile, but in reality it is merely rigorous.

Thanks for the responses.

S.

 

[BlueSugar]

I still don't believe this. I have two degrees in physics, and I don't see how a bottle can create suction. In fact, there is no really such thing as suction - it is just an excess of external pressure. What might happen is that the edges of an open container form a particularly good seal against interior tissues because of the narrow region of contact, whereas a rounded dildo would have a broad region of contact. So the act of pulling out an open mouthed object would draw the tissues more tightly against its mouth as the air inside the vessel shrank with the act of pulling out. But perhaps this is what you mean by 'creating suction'.

ever get a clog in your sink and use a plunger to get it out? Ever have to adlib and use a cup..your hand to make a suction thing going on to get the clog out? your fingers don't work sticking them in the hole to get it out bc its to far. But when ya use the cup and a little bit of air to suck, plunge, whatever the act of using a plunger is called - uncloging- same concept.

We may all be wrong, but using an open bottle to masturbate or fuck a women with... is bad... and it shouldn't be done.

 

[pplwatching]

I nearly failed physics

But this one is pretty easy. You are focusing too much on the bottle and not enough on the vagina. Focus on the vagina, Grasshopper.

The walls of the vagina are not rigid (thankfully) and the tissue is very delicate. Pushing the end of an open bottle against soft tissue results in a lot force exerted along the ridge of the bottle opening and none (for practical purposes) in the center. Push the open end of a bottle against your forearm and look at the white ring of compressed flesh versus the red uncompressed center. In laymens terms, all of force pushing against the bottle meets your skin along a very thin line. That's why whips and nipple clamps work so nicely, but I'm digressing.

Problem #1 : That white ring is where all of the blood has been pressed out of your cells, and in many cases the cell walls were ruptured by the 'focused force' pressing the fluid out. That red circle in the center is where the blood wound up going to. The beer bottle in my hand has a very thin and rough line along the rim where the bottle was cut from the blower/mold. Not a big problem for the sturdy tissue of my lips, but then I'm not really pushing very hard. Back at the vagina, if the bottle doesn't make contact at 90 deg then it's also 'scooping' tissue (shudder).

Problem #2 : The tissue around the rim of the bottle is compressed but center tissue is essentially pressed into the opening. As I see on my arm, blood basically pushed my skin into the bottle.
Pushing something into the bottle pushes air out to make room for it. You then have suction when you try to pull the bottle away from the tissue. My skin is pretty tough, so not much gets pushed into the bottle. Pushing against the inside of my cheek, however, I can make the bottle stick.

A dildo has a nice continuous curved surface area, and my wife tells me that she likes how it distributes the force in different directions as it pushes against her squishy bits (but not in so many words, or more precisely without using words).

Digs at the presenter are not just part of the scientific process. We see them most often when the presenter has done a poor job of illustrating that they really know what they are talking about. I, for one, have no idea what I'm talking about so feel free to flame me. After all, I nearly failed physics.

Back to focusing on vaginas.

 

[pplwatching]

Oooh. Replying to myself, how naughty.

Thus spake the medical sites (paraphrasing, of course) : Objects get stuck because they get pushed in too far and the average joe can't get a good grip to pull them out, so they take a trip to the E.R. Unless there's tearing or other reasons to keep them, pull the object out with doctor tools and send them home.

I agree with imp that if you push in and can't get a good enough grip to retrieve it, unlike the 'damage to the vagina' issue, this is more of a seal and friction problem.

Vaginal walls don't make an especially good seal with a small dildo, which is why
we get those lovely squishy sounds as the dildo is moved around. The squishy noise are air and lubrication 'rushing in' to fill the void left by the dildo on its way out (and being pushed out as you push in). Lubrication decreases the friction, making it even easier to pull and push.

The walls make a much better seal when stretched out against the wider base of a bottle. The pressure exerted by the strethed walls would also tend to squeeze the lubrication out.

Pull against a good seal and you create a vaccum. Air or displaceable liquid must get to the other side of the seal or the bottle won't move. Pull hard enough against a good seal and something will move, but if it's not air coming in from the outside then you are dragging something along. That's how we fill syringes and drink from straws.

Re: plunger : The plunger works because you form a seal between the plunger and the drain lip. When you press down on it you are compressing the air 'pushing against' the water and what's trapped underneath it. If the clog is not pushed out of the way, the weak rubber of the plunger collapses under the pressure, squeezing air / water out past the seal under the plunger. That creates the vaccum that works when you pull up.

Gosh, maybe I didn't sleep thru physics after all.

that and I was quite curious as to what kind of a life a person has that they get their kicks off breaking down the physics involved in the use of household objects as sex toys?????

My wife is recovering from surgury to fix the hemorrhoids she got from delivering our kids. She's on some pretty good drugs and is out to the world. I have nothing better to do but wait for her to wake up, at which time I will dote on her every need.

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[Lust Engine]

Just close up the hole in the bottle with a little candle wax, fuck yourself silly, and forget all this physics crap.

Damn right...skip all the science & just go hedonistic!

 

[pplwatching]

Heh. If you give a geek a cookie ... When asked why nerds are so good at sex, Robert Carradine's character replies "All nerds ever think about is sex". Now ask a man his opinion about something that lets him think about sex and you have opened Pandora's box.

Or maybe you make him think about how to get into Pandora's box. And while he's thinking about getting into Pandora's box he starts thinking about how much fun it will be to watch Pandora squirm while he's nibbling on her nipples. And thinking about her nipples makes him ...

 

[sheath]

Gosh, maybe I didn't sleep thru physics after all.

Huh. No kidding.

I'm suddenly wishing I hadn't ignored that cute nerdy guy in my anatomy class...*sigh*

pplwatching, I love your attitude. And your obvious smarts. Thanks for teaching us!

S.

 

[Stiffy Says...]

#1

Doesn't the bottle hurt?

 

[Stiffy Says...]

#2

What if the bottle breaks or gets stuck?

Yes, it does happen, and who wants to be the one in the ER for THAT!?

 

[Delta Boy]

Re: #1

Doesn't the bottle hurt?

Numerous scientific principles and extensive research have proven the bottle does not feel pain of any kind.

 

[PinkOrchid]

Re: Re: #1