bottle fun

[bob1324]

is it true that u cant insert a glass bottle in to a girl without creating a vacuum ie neck first

 

[Jenny _S]

is it true that u cant insert a glass bottle in to a girl without creating a vacuum ie neck first

Why are you asking this?

I suppose you can. I have a personal friend in Calif who does this regularly. She tells me she Corona Bottles are the best. Myself, I wouldn't know.

 

[bob1324]

i was just wondering as someone said that you couldnt but i have seen it in pictures etc

 

[lilpriss]

Ok, I'll set you straight, if you insert a glass or plastic bottle into a woman's vagina (or an anus for that matter) and there isn't a TIGHT fitting lid on it, and you begin to fuck her with it, it WILL create a vaccuumm and that's a bitch to deal with. Plus, it can cause big time damage, and if really severe would have to be surgically removed.


This is not a good idea... They make sex toys that are safe and play specific... Be responsible in your sex life, it may feel really dirty or kinky or whatever to use household items for "playing' but it's not always safe... or sanitary...

 

[EarnestImp]

Ok, I'll set you straight, if you insert a glass or plastic bottle into a woman's vagina (or an anus for that matter) and there isn't a TIGHT fitting lid on it, and you begin to fuck her with it,

Why? Is there a physical reason for this? What is the difference between a capped bottle and an open bottle, besides an air space - which is after all just an air space and not some magical source of sucking.

Put the end of a coke bottle in your mouth, collapse your mouth around it, and move it back and forth. Is there really a vacuum?

I just don't see a physical reason why this would be the case. Now if you heated the bottle ahead of time and then let it cool, I see why there would be a vacuum - but I bet it would be broken soon.

Perhaps you're right, but I want to know the physics involved.

In fact, I would argue that there is less of a vacuum with an open bottle, because there is a reservoir of air to fill the gap created by a back-and-forth piston motion.

 

[_Milky_Whites_]

wow...someone must be really bored.

 

[BlueSugar]

Why? Is there a physical reason for this? What is the difference between a capped bottle and an open bottle, besides an air space - which is after all just an air space and not some magical source of sucking.

Put the end of a coke bottle in your mouth, collapse your mouth around it, and move it back and forth. Is there really a vacuum?

I just don't see a physical reason why this would be the case. Now if you heated the bottle ahead of time and then let it cool, I see why there would be a vacuum - but I bet it would be broken soon.

Perhaps you're right, but I want to know the physics involved.

In fact, I would argue that there is less of a vacuum with an open bottle, because there is a reservoir of air to fill the gap created by a back-and-forth piston motion.

The difference IS the air space. By putting a coke bottle in your mouth you are still breathing and the flow of air is still open, a vagina is a closed system in the body. Also the shape of the bottle going in and out has no where to go but around or in the bottle, once again creating heavy suction. There are many many hosptial records that involve people and inserting open bottles /or inserting themselves in bottles for sexual stimulation (the sucking, the feeling that it creates is good...what is acutally happening is bad)

Say you are using a toy or having regular sex, the reason why we don't get stuck together is because air is free to move around (thus creating embarrassing or silly moments... ie.. the Queaf..) but the bottle doesn't let that happen, it sucks in the air, gets tighter and then you cannot get it out bc it creats such a heavy suction a vaccuume if you will.

And theres the physics of it all.

on a side note... 1,000th post!

PS I know this not from experience, but from Dr.s in the family that shared cases like this

 

[DuckLover]

Congratulations on your 1000th post!

(As I shamelessly boost my own post number...)

 

[Bobmi357]

Congrats on 1000.... Like Ducklover, I'm bumping my count also.

 

[Jenny _S]

Back to the topic

The question of using a bottle for a dildo is somewhat perverse. As I said I do have a friend who does this.

Anyone who wants to introduce potentially harmful bacteria into their vigina is perfectly welcome to do so. Also, it is my experience that the lips on glass bottles are not particularly smooth. So if someone wants to run the risk of tearing the tissues, go right ahead. Anyone who wants to run the risk of the bottle breaking during their interlude, more power to them.

I really think a dildo or vibrator is a much better and safer alternative. Given all the negative possibilities, the question of a vacuum created by a bottle is a point I really don't even want to know.

 

[BlueSugar]

1,004... yeah, you can insert one w/o damage, once you start fucking yourself with it... schedule a ride to a hospital or a good understanding open minded friend with a diamond tipped drill... and make sure he has lots of experience with them. eep.

 

[Owlz]

The difference IS the air space. By putting a coke bottle in your mouth you are still breathing and the flow of air is still open, a vagina is a closed system in the body. Also the shape of the bottle going in and out has no where to go but around or in the bottle, once again creating heavy suction. There are many many hosptial records that involve people and inserting open bottles /or inserting themselves in bottles for sexual stimulation (the sucking, the feeling that it creates is good...what is acutally happening is bad)

Say you are using a toy or having regular sex, the reason why we don't get stuck together is because air is free to move around (thus creating embarrassing or silly moments... ie.. the Queaf..) but the bottle doesn't let that happen, it sucks in the air, gets tighter and then you cannot get it out bc it creats such a heavy suction a vaccuume if you will.

And theres the physics of it all.

on a side note... 1,000th post!

PS I know this not from experience, but from Dr.s in the family that shared cases like this

Interesting family you have, Blue.

Queaf/queef...GAWD, I haven't heard that term in YEARS!

 

[EarnestImp]

Say you are using a toy or having regular sex, the reason why we don't get stuck together is because air is free to move around (thus creating embarrassing or silly moments... ie.. the Queaf..) but the bottle doesn't let that happen, it sucks in the air, gets tighter and then you cannot get it out bc it creats such a heavy suction a vaccuume if you will.

And theres the physics of it all.

I still don't believe this. I have two degrees in physics, and I don't see how a bottle can create suction. In fact, there is no really such thing as suction - it is just an excess of external pressure. What might happen is that the edges of an open container form a particularly good seal against interior tissues because of the narrow region of contact, whereas a rounded dildo would have a broad region of contact. So the act of pulling out an open mouthed object would draw the tissues more tightly against its mouth as the air inside the vessel shrank with the act of pulling out. But perhaps this is what you mean by 'creating suction'.

 

[peachykeen]

I still don't believe this. I have two degrees in physics, and I don't see how a bottle can create suction. In fact, there is no really such thing as suction - it is just an excess of external pressure. What might happen is that the edges of an open container form a particularly good seal against interior tissues because of the narrow region of contact, whereas a rounded dildo would have a broad region of contact. So the act of pulling out an open mouthed object would draw the tissues more tightly against its mouth as the air inside the vessel shrank with the act of pulling out. But perhaps this is what you mean by 'creating suction'.

Stop intentionally obfuscating. You clearly knew what she meant.

 

[EarnestImp]

Stop intentionally obfuscating. You clearly knew what she meant.

Not obfuscating, toots. There are some of us that really want to understand what is going on. I now believe that open mouthed containers might form a seal that will make removing them difficult, and I recognise that one could imprecisesly call this creating a vacuum.

And I think that some of the detailed physical explanations offered were, well, downright inaccurate.

 

[peachykeen]

yeah, it wasn't that you wanted to show off at all.

come on now, if I'd put in the time and effort to earn two physics degrees I'd be looking for amy possible opportunity to mention it too.

 

[EarnestImp]

yeah, it wasn't that you wanted to show off at all.
come on now, if I'd put in the time and effort to earn two physics degrees I'd be looking for amy possible opportunity to mention it too.

Any possible opportunity? Really? This is the first time in 600+ posts I've mentioned it, and only because it was relevant and only because someone was providing dubious explanations for a physical phenomenon.

 

[lilpriss]

Earnestimp... I don't care how many degrees you have in physics... the point isn't physics, this isn't a post about physics...

It's clearly titled, "BOTTLE FUN".

I don't think having a bottle with an open mouth "create a seal" which can pull and tug on my inner parts, thus causing damage... sounds like much fun. So you can stop using last week's vocabulary words, stop trying to show off your boundless knowledge and begin to try to communicate on a human level.

In layman's terms... an open bottle has air in it... put it in a nice, tight, soft, warm, wet space with no room for air to get around it... thrust it in and out a few times and just see how easy it is to remove... but you certainly won't be trying that on this chick!

You know, you really showed your true colors in your "rebuttal post," asking questions that you felt you already had the answers to... the difference between an open bottle and one with a tight cap is that the capped one will not allow any air that may be inside the vagina, at the time of insertion, to try and make it's way into the bottle.... thus "creating a seal" which could HURT your partner!

So, original poster, unless you are a sadistic bastard... better safe than sorry, eh? The point isn't in the technicalities, it's in the effects that this action may have on your partner.

 

[EarnestImp]

Earnestimp... I don't care how many degrees you have in physics... the point isn't physics, this isn't a post about physics...

I don't think having a bottle with an open mouth "create a seal" which can pull and tug on my inner parts, thus causing damage... sounds like much fun. .....
In layman's terms... an open bottle has air in it... put it in a nice, tight, soft, warm, wet space with no room for air to get around it...

I'm sorry that you feel so injured; I'm really not attacking you personally. For me, this really is a factual question. I'm not advocating that anyone fuck themselves with a bottle.

Here are some questions for you, to help me understand things better.

(the word you below does not refer to you specifically btw)

1) If you fuck yourself with a hollow plastic dildo without any holes connecting the inside and outside of the dildo, what happens? If you put a small hole at the end of the dildo, what happens THEN? If what you have said above is true, then the teensiest hole in the dildo will cause problems. Is this the case?

2) Why are there so many cases of people getting light bulbs stuck inside of them if light bulbs have no cavity open to the outside?

3) If you fuck yourself with a bottle that (a) is 100% empty or (b) is 70% filled at the bottom with a hard plastic resin so the internal space is smaller, are the two acts a and b more or less risky, or the same? Why? In the latter case, the air cavity is much smaller.

Please try to view the above as factual or scientific questions - not as being hostile, because they really are not meant to be.

 

[lilpriss]

This is my last reply to Earnestimp,

DO NOT snip parts of my post to suit your needs.

I am not arguing about sex toys with you or anyone else. (however it seems if a sex toy of mine got a HOLE in it it would be time for a new toy)

This is a post about BOTTLES. Not a science project and since you are the one with the degree why not answer the question for yourself it seems you would be the only one posing it...

I would suggest not entertaining your "which is worse" scenario, b/c some may see that as a license to go give it a try...

 

[EarnestImp]

This is my last reply to Earnestimp,
DO NOT snip parts of my post to suit your needs.

Oh dear, we really are losing our top, aren't we? I clipped your post to respond to certain parts of it. Quoting the whole would have been tedious for all involved.

Please keep in mind that you initially posted in this thread saying Ok, I'll set you straight, if you insert a glass or plastic bottle into a woman's vagina ....

And now when someone expresses a measure of doubt at your expertise you appear rather irritated.

 

[EarnestImp]

Incidentally, the original poster may wish to look at discussions at:

http://www.ncemi.org/cse/cse0612.htm
and
http://www.well.com/www/cynsa/jar.html

These deal with rectal, not vaginal insertions, because the former appear much more common - it seems more harder to get something stuck in the vagina.

Apparently, the vacuum resulting from an open container has little to do with something getting stuck - more often than not, the open end of a stuck inserted object faces downward, which makes sense, because it is easier to insert. The 'suction' has to do with the tight seal of the container with the sides of the canal (rectal, vaginal), not whether the container is open or capped.

If these case studies are representative, the real problem is simply inserting something that is too big, and that doesn't have a handle to pull it out. The first pictorial example in the first link deals with a ordinary lemon, in fact.

 

[sheath]

I still don't believe this. I have two degrees in physics, and I don't see how a bottle can create suction. In fact, there is no really such thing as suction - it is just an excess of external pressure. What might happen is that the edges of an open container form a particularly good seal against interior tissues because of the narrow region of contact, whereas a rounded dildo would have a broad region of contact. So the act of pulling out an open mouthed object would draw the tissues more tightly against its mouth as the air inside the vessel shrank with the act of pulling out. But perhaps this is what you mean by 'creating suction'.

And I would also like to note, in your first post on this thread, you said: "...I want to know the physics involved."

Okay...I just gotta know. If you have two degrees in physics, then you obviously know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to the science. So, why did you bother asking a question that you obviously can answer by yourself?



Most of us are not students of physics. We are here to learn. So in your wisdom of physics, how about you go back and answer your own question, in detail, for the rest of us.

I'm really curious to see what you have to say.

S.

 

[Mstrskey]

Ahhh Sheath....sometimes when I read your posts- like the one above- the urge to kiss you is so damn strong!!!

Yet further proof that you're a goddess girl!!

 

[sheath]

Ahhh Sheath....sometimes when I read your posts- like the one above- the urge to kiss you is so damn strong!!!

Yet further proof that you're a goddess girl!!

That brilliant mind of yours was going down the same road, I know it was....I just beat you to this one.

S.