BOMBSHELL, but really we knew this, didnt we?

[Peregrinator]

Its sarcastic for Religion of Peace

what is YOUR reaction to the two items above?

Dont you really believe they BOTH deserve WIDE attention and dissemination?

Both are significant tiles in a mosaic. I'd like to see a really long feature on the whole business, including ALL the new evidence in one of the major papers.

 

[busybody..]

thats the point

the papers DONT cover it

as it more then amply shows the truth of what Bush said all along!

 

[Peregrinator]

thats the point

the papers DONT cover it

as it more then amply shows the truth of what Bush said all along!

You assume the motivation, possibly correctly.

If I were EiC of a major news agency, I'd be waiting for the full release and have a small team working on a major production about it, something like an hour-long special, or a multi-page special edition.

 

[busybody..]

So many in the West cant even see that we are at war

and who the enemy is

and they make all sorts of excuses for them

The New X Games
A wacademic at Britain’s University of Chester says the London subway bombings weren’t “terrorism.” Oh no, you silly plebeians! They were merely “extreme demonstrations:” London bombers not terrorists - professor.

“Terrorism” is such a political word. Often used to demonize people, don’t you know.

LONDON’S suicide bombings were not the acts of terrorists but just an extreme Muslim demonstration, a Chester professor has claimed.

The attacks that killed 52 people and threw the country into shock last July were part of a long history of demonstrations sparked by British Muslims, according to Professor Ron Geaves.

His controversial comments were made at a lecture given at the University of Chester that attracted dignitaries and members of the Muslim community from around the North West.

As part of his research, the professor’s recent report looks at the history of demonstrations by British Muslims.

From the 1980s Salman Rushdie demonstrations to the anti-war protests surrounding the Iraq war, his work charts the changing nature of Muslim communities in Britain.

Prof Geaves said: “I have included, rather controversially, the events in London as primarily an extreme form of demonstration and assess what these events actually mean in terms of their significance in the Muslim community.

”The word terrorism is a political word which always seems to be used to demonise people."




So blowing uo TRAINS and KILLING people is EXTREME DEMONSTRATIONS???

 

[busybody..]

and if you think its ONLY in Euro-pee

its not

its HERE as well

How soon before they say not permitting honor killings is RACIST and an infringement on their religious rights?

The US doesnt allow and in fact prosecutes Mormons for marrying more then one woman

Yet Muslims do so all the time

Why are they NOT arressted


The Islamist Challenge to the Constitution
Here’s a piece by David Kennedy Houck on Muslim organizations’ attempts to establish “separate but equal” enclaves in the United States: The Islamist Challenge to the U.S. Constitution.

First in Europe and now in the United States, Muslim groups have petitioned to establish enclaves in which they can uphold and enforce greater compliance to Islamic law. While the U.S. Constitution enshrines the right to religious freedom and the prohibition against a state religion, when it comes to the rights of religious enclaves to impose communal rules, the dividing line is more nebulous. Can U.S. enclaves, homeowner associations, and other groups enforce Islamic law?

Such questions are no longer theoretical. While Muslim organizations first established enclaves in Europe, the trend is now crossing the Atlantic. Some Islamist community leaders in the United States are challenging the principles of assimilation and equality once central to the civil rights movement, seeking instead to live according to a separate but equal philosophy. The Gwynnoaks Muslim Residential Development group, for example, has established an informal enclave in Baltimore because, according to John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative, a Baltimore-based Muslim advocacy group, “there was no community in the U.S. that showed the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.”

Baltimore is not alone. In August 2004, a local planning commission in Little Rock, Arkansas, granted The Islamic Center for Human Excellence authorization to build an internal Islamic enclave to include a mosque, a school, and twenty-two homes. While the imam, Aquil Hamidullah, says his goal is to create “a clean community, free of alcohol, drugs, and free of gangs,” the implications for U.S. jurisprudence of this and other internal enclaves are greater: while the Little Rock enclave might prevent the sale of alcohol, can it punish possession and in what manner? Can it force all women, be they residents or visitors, to don Islamic hijab (headscarf)? Such enclaves raise the fundamental questions of when, how, and to what extent religious practice may supersede the U.S. Constitution.

 

[busybody..]

I am mainly posting this out of habit and a bit of boredom

I dont expect ANY of you to read it nor comment

For virtually all, its best NOT even to thing about this

because the possibilities of where it leads is HORRIFIC!

 

[Sean]

BB, would you like to tell me which Muslim enclaves in Europe are not subject to the law of the country that they're in?

 

[busybody..]

You DO know there are MANY areas in France

AND

the Neteherlands

AND

Germany


That the Police NEVER venture into!

RIGHT?

You do know that.

And you do KNOW why, dont you?

 

[Sean]

You DO know there are MANY areas in France

AND

the Neteherlands

AND

Germany


That the Police NEVER venture into!

RIGHT?

You do know that.

And you do KNOW why, dont you?

LOL, there are places on every city on Earth that the police don't venture into. And it's fuck all to do with the religion of the people living there. I'll ask you again, which Muslim enclaves in Europe are not subject to the law of the land?

 

[busybody..]

the police dont go because the Muslims told them to stay out

your MO is to deny deny deny reality

you can


but it doesnt make the reality on the ground change

 

[Sean]

the police dont go because the Muslims told them to stay out

your MO is to deny deny deny reality

you can


but it doesnt make the reality on the ground change

Which Muslim enclaves in Europe are not subject to the law of the land?

 

[busybody..]

This is ALMOST funny

France has a KILLER in its MIDST and doesnt arrest or KILL him?

'Carlos the Jackal' Fined in France (AP, 4/04/06)


A Paris court fined the terrorist known as ``Carlos the Jackal'' more than $6,000 Tuesday for saying in a French television interview that terror attacks sometimes were ``necessary.''

 

[Sean]

Which Muslim enclaves in Europe are not subject to the law of the land?

 

[busybody..]

More On Saddam's Support for Terror

Our friend Captain Ed makes much of this document, which was captured in Baghdad and released on Tuesday. Here is the English translation; we'd be interested in comments on the translation by those who speak Arabic:

In the Name of God the Merciful The Compassionate Top Secret The Command of Ali Bin Abi Taleb Air Force Base No 3/6/104
Date 11 March 2001

To all the Units

Subject: Volunteer for Suicide Mission

The top secret letter 2205 of the Military Branch of Al Qadisya on 4/3/2001 announced by the top secret letter 246 from the Command of the military sector of Zi Kar on 8/3/2001 announced to us by the top secret letter 154 from the Command of Ali Military Division on 10/3/2001 we ask to provide that Division with the names of those who desire to volunteer for Suicide Mission to liberate Palestine and to strike American Interests and according what is shown below to please review and inform us.

Air Brigadier General
Abdel Magid Hammot Ali
Commander of Ali Bin Abi Taleb Air Force Base
Air Colonel
Mohamad Majed Mohamadi


Ed notes that it seems to be the Iraqi Air Force that was looking for terror candidates, and wonders whether Saddam had a September 11-style mission against America in mind. Well, maybe. But the memo, as translated, doesn't say anything about striking inside the U.S., it refers to "strik[ing] American interests," a phrase usually used when talking about American interests overseas. (We'd be especially interested to learn how other Arabic speakers would translate that phrase.)

The reference to "liberat[ing] Palestine" is no surprise, as it was no secret that Iraq rewarded the families of Palestinian suicide bombers in order to encourage violence against Israel. It is possible that the "American interests" referred to in the memo could be encompassed by an attack on Israel.

Only those who have their hands over their ears while shouting "La-la-la, I can't hear you" continue to deny that Saddam's regime supported terrorism. This memo is clearly one more piece of evidence to that effect. But its real significance can only be assessed in context with a great many other documents. As I've said before, the ongoing review of captured Iraqi and Taliban documents isn't like a search for a smoking gun or a needle in a haystack; it is much more like the patient assembly of a very large mosaic, one tile at a time.

 

[Sean]

.Which Muslim enclaves in Europe are not subject to the law of the land?

 

[busybody..]

Saddam's Past Terrorism Connections Have Future Consequences
A U.S. House oversight subcommittee conducts the first public hearing today on the lessons gleaned from the first review of the vast storehouse of Saddam's intelligence documents. They will hear today from two military officers involved in the preparation of the Iraq Perspectives Project (see my post on it earlier) and from an official of the Director of National Intelligence, and Congressmen will also discuss the release of documents by the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office at Ft. Leavenworth, which has been the subject of numerous articles and columns. The skepticism in official IC circles with respect to the value of these documents remains, but we should recall that (a) committed and careful terrorists not only don't die, but they never fade away either; and (b) the IC, including the FBI, missed the use of U.S.-based Islamic charities in the 1980s and 1990s to fund Islamic terrorism. The work uncovering those charities' terrorism-funding activities was done by private-sector experts, especially Steven Emerson and his Investigative Project on Terrorism, and that work is the basis for criminal investigations even now. For instance, the KindHearts charity recently nailed by the Treasury Department is "the progeny" (Treasury's words) of the Holy Land Foundation in Texas and the Global Relief Foundation in Chicago. I'm quite confident that Steve Emerson knows more about the history and principals of those three charities than anybody else in the world.

So we need to know what happened to the thousands of graduates of Saddam's terrorism academies between 1994 and 2003 (citing page 54 of the IPP). The Moussaoui case and the release of 9/11 emergency tapes again remind us that it only takes 19 committed and trained terrorists to cause massive death and destruction. It would be grossly negligent to not obtain and pursue documentation of the names, countries of origin, and ultimate destination of each of Saddam's graduates.

Posted by Andrew Cochran at 11:01 AM | Permalink

 

[Peregrinator]

This is ALMOST funny

France has a KILLER in its MIDST and doesnt arrest or KILL him?

'Carlos the Jackal' Fined in France (AP, 4/04/06)


A Paris court fined the terrorist known as ``Carlos the Jackal'' more than $6,000 Tuesday for saying in a French television interview that terror attacks sometimes were ``necessary.''

After three years in solitary confinement in a Paris jail, Carlos the Jackal has been sentenced to life imprisonment for killing two French secret agents and a Lebanese fellow revolutionary in 1975.

Link.

 

[Peregrinator]

.Which Muslim enclaves in Europe are not subject to the law of the land?

He seems to be avoiding the question....

 

[busybody..]

read the start of that POST AGAIN


The Islamist Challenge to the Constitution
Here’s a piece by David Kennedy Houck on Muslim organizations’ attempts to establish “separate but equal” enclaves in the United States: The Islamist Challenge to the U.S. Constitution.

First in Europe and now in the United States, Muslim groups have petitioned to establish enclaves in which they can


Then see if YOUR repeated questions are accurate

what is YOU resonse to the term

EXTREME DEMONSTARTION to the London bombings?

 

[busybody..]

Link.

is HE in jail NOW?

 

[Peregrinator]

He seems to be avoiding the question....

Still no answer.

 

[busybody..]

Still no answer.

I did answer

You didnt see it?

Or you dont get it?

 

[busybody..]

http://www.meforum.org/article/920/

READ IT ALL YOU FUCKERS!

 

[Peregrinator]

is HE in jail NOW?

Fine sought from Carlos the Jackal
From correspondents in Paris
March 01, 2006
A FRENCH prosecutor is seeking a 20,000 euro ($32,182) fine against the imprisoned terrorist Carlos the Jackal for gloating over the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.
http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,18319991-1702,00.html

 

[Sean]

what is YOU resonse to the term

EXTREME DEMONSTARTION to the London bombings?

You mean the people that were arrested and charged and are awaiting trial for incitement to violence?