BoeBoo's Home State Goes BoomBoom Again

Please, provide the data. You seem to know it so well. A link would be great.

It's public info, Mexico has tight gun control and a very high murder rate.
Our situational Korean doesn't provide back up to his claims. Just some side info for you to digest, in case you haven't noticed already.


Brazil deaths by firearms is 49,436 in 2022 (so far) 22.96/100k
Mexican deaths by firearms is 22,116 in 2022 ( so far) 17.3/100k ( Constitutional right to own firearms) Murder rate 28.37/100k
USA deaths by firearms is 37,038 in 2022 (so far) 10.95/100k ( Constitutional right to own firearms) Murder rate 4.96/100k
Deaths by firearms in Japan in 2022 is 101 (so far) .008/100k
Deaths by firearms in Canada in 2022 is 875 (so far) 2.26/200k

Just some highlights about the above:

Mexico only has one store where you can legally purchase firearms. The difficulty in Mexico in purchasing a firearm is in the lack of stores and only about 55,000 are sold legally each year.

For the record, most firearm related deaths in Mexico are due to the "drug wars" and use illegal firearms, legally bought in the USA and then sold on the black market. This is such a problem, the Mexican government is suing several US arms manufacturers.

Japan has at least 40 stores ( more I am sure) where you can legally purchase firearms, but it takes about 4 months to go through the process. Making it one of the most restrictive firearms processes to gain approval for ownership.

Canadians are the 10th most armed citizens in the world. It takes one course completion on firearm training, and one application. The length of time it takes is around 3 months, from start to finish, mainly due to the time frame of receiving your physical licence.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Currently Brazil has taken the #1 spot for firearm deaths in the world ( non war related), relegating the USA to an unfamiliar #2 spot, followed closely in third by Mexico....

Hope this helps dkovic77....Bobo would never provide it....
 
Our situational Korean doesn't provide back up to his claims. Just some side info for you to digest, in case you haven't noticed already.


Brazil deaths by firearms is 49,436 in 2022 (so far) 22.96/100k
Mexican deaths by firearms is 22,116 in 2022 ( so far) 17.3/100k ( Constitutional right to own firearms) Murder rate 28.37/100k
USA deaths by firearms is 37,038 in 2022 (so far) 10.95/100k ( Constitutional right to own firearms) Murder rate 4.96/100k
Deaths by firearms in Japan in 2022 is 101 (so far) .008/100k
Deaths by firearms in Canada in 2022 is 875 (so far) 2.26/200k

Just some highlights about the above:

Mexico only has one store where you can legally purchase firearms. The difficulty in Mexico in purchasing a firearm is in the lack of stores and only about 55,000 are sold legally each year.

For the record, most firearm related deaths in Mexico are due to the "drug wars" and use illegal firearms, legally bought in the USA and then sold on the black market. This is such a problem, the Mexican government is suing several US arms manufacturers.

Japan has at least 40 stores ( more I am sure) where you can legally purchase firearms, but it takes about 4 months to go through the process. Making it one of the most restrictive firearms processes to gain approval for ownership.

Canadians are the 10th most armed citizens in the world. It takes one course completion on firearm training, and one application. The length of time it takes is around 3 months, from start to finish, mainly due to the time frame of receiving your physical licence.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Currently Brazil has taken the #1 spot for firearm deaths in the world ( non war related), relegating the USA to an unfamiliar #2 spot, followed closely in third by Mexico....

Hope this helps dkovic77....Bobo would never provide it....
More proof BoBo just argues his feelings.
 
Thanks for proving my point Fuzz.....

No, I knew I was right and I was happy to let the anti-Civil rights leftoids flail around in their ignorance.
Remember no one is 100% right all the time, nor is anyone wrong 100% of the time. However with your admitted laziness, I figured there was no way you would ever provide any evidence from a fact worthy citation.

Glad you think this proves your point.

Poor Bobo......
 
The entire argument is that a lack of proficiency should deny you your Rights. Then it shifts to "but most people don't need that right anyway so you shouldn't have it at all."

All that while ignoring the reality that the speaker doesn't get to tell anyone what their Rights are/aren't based on the speaker's cowardice and racism.
I’ve argued no such thing. Merely pointed the vast majority of gun owners are worthless at shooting them.

I’m saying maybe part of the responsibility of owning a gun should come with some mandatory training. An average accidental gun death year in the United States is 492. Most of those are under 25 and many are children. Maybe a gun safe should be mandatory as well.

you need to get a license to drive a car, most states require 50+ hours of practice and you must be insured why not the same thing for the ownership of a gun? It doesn’t restrict your right to own a gun just makes you a better owner. And before you go yeah but the second amendment, blah, blah. Find me the part that states there can’t be any requirements to owning a gun? Not restrictions but requirements.

slowing down the process for background checks and requirements for basic gun safety and training are not infringing on your rights. Just because you can’t get the gun you want in 5 minutes.
 
I’ve argued no such thing. Merely pointed the vast majority of gun owners are worthless at shooting them.

I’m saying maybe part of the responsibility of owning a gun should come with some mandatory training. An average accidental gun death year in the United States is 492. Most of those are under 25 and many are children. Maybe a gun safe should be mandatory as well.

you need to get a license to drive a car, most states require 50+ hours of practice and you must be insured why not the same thing for the ownership of a gun? It doesn’t restrict your right to own a gun just makes you a better owner. And before you go yeah but the second amendment, blah, blah. Find me the part that states there can’t be any requirements to owning a gun? Not restrictions but requirements.

slowing down the process for background checks and requirements for basic gun safety and training are not infringing on your rights. Just because you can’t get the gun you want in 5 minutes.
The vast majority of gun owners are worthless at shooting them? I'm not sure what folks you run with, but the folks I'm familiar with...... I wouldn't bet against them not missing their intended target.... as far as requirements are not restrictions? If someone is unable to meet the requirements they are restricted from that activity. Thus requirements are restrictions (but I believe I understand your intended thoughts though) the reason I owned a gun safe was an extra layer of security in case of a break in ( being responsible) shouldn't be a requirement... I do like the training aspect, although this as well should be voluntary and funded by the government with qualified people teaching it......
As far as these some of these nut cases go... time after time the current red Flag seemed to be ignored. One more item, why are folks blaming an inanimate object for these tragedies? Is a car responsible for killing someone while the driver is drunk at the wheel? Do you punish the cat for what the dog chewed up? Anyway just my thoughts on this....enjoy your day....
 
The vast majority of gun owners are worthless at shooting them? I'm not sure what folks you run with, but the folks I'm familiar with...... I wouldn't bet against them not missing their intended target....
... as long as the target is static, or a defenseless animal. Let the target be one that shoots back and you have a shootout that puts many others at risk.

as far as requirements are not restrictions? If someone is unable to meet the requirements they are restricted from that activity. Thus requirements are restrictions (but I believe I understand your intended thoughts though)
Exactly the point. If you can't meet the requirements, you should not be allowed to put the public at risk.

the reason I owned a gun safe was an extra layer of security in case of a break in ( being responsible) shouldn't be a requirement...
Owning a boomboom is no guarantee of security and may dramatically increase risk.

I do like the training aspect, although this as well should be voluntary and funded by the government with qualified people teaching it......
Ooooooh ... more Government spending!!
 
... as long as the target is static, or a defenseless animal. Let the target be one that shoots back and you have a shootout that puts many others at risk.
Much better to just lay there and get gunned down like a helpless animal while the cops wait outside for the gunman to finish up with you.

Self defense is toxic masculinity!!!! And RACIST!!!

Good Democrat logic right there.
 
I’ve argued no such thing. Merely pointed the vast majority of gun owners are worthless at shooting them.

I’m saying maybe part of the responsibility of owning a gun should come with some mandatory training. An average accidental gun death year in the United States is 492. Most of those are under 25 and many are children. Maybe a gun safe should be mandatory as well.

you need to get a license to drive a car, most states require 50+ hours of practice and you must be insured why not the same thing for the ownership of a gun? It doesn’t restrict your right to own a gun just makes you a better owner. And before you go yeah but the second amendment, blah, blah. Find me the part that states there can’t be any requirements to owning a gun? Not restrictions but requirements.

slowing down the process for background checks and requirements for basic gun safety and training are not infringing on your rights. Just because you can’t get the gun you want in 5 minutes.
So you claim you said no such thing, yet immediately say that "maybe part of the responsibility of owning a gun should come with some mandatory training."

If that's not claiming that you don't get the Right to own a gun without training, then I can't see the difference.

Further, driving a car isn't a Constitutional Right. Thus, you cannot compare the two as equal because that's saying that someone can't exercise that Right without "permission."

And of course you close with "slowing down the process for background checks and requirements for basic gun safety and training are not infringing on your rights. Just because you can’t get the gun you want in 5 minutes." Which is essentially you saying that no one needs that Right anyway.


And yet here you are trying to avoid the truth of what you say. Face it, you have no argument other than "guns bad" and you're doing everything you can to try and bolster that position by shucking and jiving instead of rational thought/debate.
 
... as long as the target is static, or a defenseless animal. Let the target be one that shoots back and you have a shootout that puts many others at risk.


Exactly the point. If you can't meet the requirements, you should not be allowed to put the public at risk.


Owning a boomboom is no guarantee of security and may dramatically increase risk.


Ooooooh ... more Government spending!!
I'm seriously grinning at your ridiculousness here.

Do you REALLY think that the thug with a gun is any more proficient than the homeowner awakened in the middle of the night and is still half asleep?

Or the cops who need 87 bazillion shots to almost wound the bad guy in a major shootout?

Then there's the fact that adrenaline does funny things to small motor control abilities. Abilities which are necessary to be accurate with a gun.

And finally, if you can hit a paper plate sized object at 15 feet, you're more than proficient enough with a gun in a self defense situation. Why? Because the vital areas on the human body are clustered in about a 10" diameter area called "center mass."

What you really need to do is go get some firearms training and education with someone who actually knows something about guns. I suggest ANY of the shooting academies like Gunsite, Frontsight, etc. You might, just might, learn something that could save your life.
 
I’m saying maybe part of the responsibility of owning a gun should come with some mandatory training. An average accidental gun death year in the United States is 492. Most of those are under 25 and many are children. Maybe a gun safe should be mandatory as well.

Sure, as soon as we make literacy and property ownership a mandatory requirement for voting. :D
 
I'm seriously grinning at your ridiculousness here.

Do you REALLY think that the thug with a gun is any more proficient than the homeowner awakened in the middle of the night and is still half asleep?

Or the cops who need 87 bazillion shots to almost wound the bad guy in a major shootout?

Then there's the fact that adrenaline does funny things to small motor control abilities. Abilities which are necessary to be accurate with a gun.

And finally, if you can hit a paper plate sized object at 15 feet, you're more than proficient enough with a gun in a self defense situation. Why? Because the vital areas on the human body are clustered in about a 10" diameter area called "center mass."

What you really need to do is go get some firearms training and education with someone who actually knows something about guns. I suggest ANY of the shooting academies like Gunsite, Frontsight, etc. You might, just might, learn something that could save your life.


But those police like the ones in Uvalde will save him, civilized people call 911!!! This isn't the wild west anymore!!! Or something like that ....LOL
 
But those police like the ones in Uvalde will save him, civilized people call 911!!! This isn't the wild west anymore!!! Or something like that ....LOL
What they say/do is actually an easily understood reaction, or over-reaction, to events they have no real knowledge about.

The saying "you don't know what you don't know" applies to most of the anti-gun crowd. They really don't know what they're talking about but they talk about it anyway.

It's also possible that them doing that is a way for them to deal with their emotional state as a result of the news reports. It's possible that a few use the news as a way to try and advance their own agendas and the bulk of the anti-gun believers are just followers who are happy that someone is out in front taking them somewhere/anywhere.

I don't know which it is, or if there's another reason (like insanity) that makes them talk out their asses when it comes to guns.
 
What they say/do is actually an easily understood reaction, or over-reaction, to events they have no real knowledge about.

The saying "you don't know what you don't know" applies to most of the anti-gun crowd. They really don't know what they're talking about but they talk about it anyway.

It's also possible that them doing that is a way for them to deal with their emotional state as a result of the news reports. It's possible that a few use the news as a way to try and advance their own agendas and the bulk of the anti-gun believers are just followers who are happy that someone is out in front taking them somewhere/anywhere.

I don't know which it is, or if there's another reason (like insanity) that makes them talk out their asses when it comes to guns.

100%.... another factor I think plays into this is that a lot of it is copeium for their own lack of security.

They know crimes happen, bad guys do bad things to people. None of their gun free zones, waiting periods, bans on the scary looking stuff or mag capacity limits have done fuck all.... and they know it. Deep down inside they know the cops aren't going to protect them either. Their ONLY form of security outside of some weak ass door/window locks at their house is to hope they zebra out and get some other people between them and the baddie and run away.

So when they encounter someone who isn't as helpless as they are?? They are resentful and bitter....

Just like the guy who got a skill, built a business and is making good money...... also something this same group of people can't or won't do for themselves, so they get resentful and bitter about it. People who don't need the welfare state to eat or a cop to be safe, nobody is hated more by leftoids than those two groups of people. And it's for the same reason.
 
So when they encounter someone who isn't as helpless as they are?? They are resentful and bitter....

Just like the guy who got a skill, built a business and is making good money...... also something this same group of people can't or won't do for themselves, so they get resentful and bitter about it. People who don't need the welfare state to eat or a cop to be safe, nobody is hated more by leftoids than those two groups of people. And it's for the same reason.
This probably translates into a lot of other areas in their little lives because they don't really understand how the world works.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Brain Damaged.....

The KKK.... in the 80's??

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

The lack of logic here is frightening.

In your logic if one cop is bad they’re all bad, but if one gun is used to hurt people there are other guns that didn’t. Shouldn’t the tens of thousands of cops who would have gone in shown the opposite?

Sure buddy.... sure.

 
Note the femboys incessant attacks on my masculinity..... betraying his own insecurities.

I'm guessing the more masculine a guy is, the more threatened you are and the shittier you get.

Military, especially Marines and combat arms people, cops, first responders, roughnecks, lumber jacks, truckers..... I bet they all get your venom flowing.

Was it hard growing up without a father??
 
Note the femboys incessant attacks on my masculinity..... betraying his own insecurities.

I'm guessing the more masculine a guy is, the more threatened you are and the shittier you get.

Military, especially Marines and combat arms people, cops, first responders, roughnecks, lumber jacks, truckers..... I bet they all get your venom flowing.

Was it hard growing up without a father??
He didn't attack your masculinity. He attacked your obsession with masculinity.
 
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