Body Language

[Brute_Force]

How much store do you put into body language as an indicator of attraction?

I read somewhere that 93% of what is communicated between people is non-verbal. I agree with this to a large extent.

There are several things I look for to identify whether a woman likes me or not....

1. Eye tracking (where does she look and how long?)
2. Preening behavior (does she fix her hair, touch her face?)
3. Proximity (how close is she?)
4. Nipple erection

I'm just curious if you pay attention to these things or do you think they're a load of bosh?

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Actually, BF, I pay a great deal of attention to body language whether I'm in a seductive frame of mind or otherwise. People tell vast stories with their eyes, their body positions, and their hands.

Often, I have found that what a woman is saying to me is a lot less significant than what she is showing me. For example, I went to a hairdresser once who was very beautiful and though she was telling me of her boyfriend, she was also simultaneously looking down my blouse and her nipples were hard. Go figure.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

How much store do you put into body language as an indicator of attraction?

I read somewhere that 93% of what is communicated between people is non-verbal. I agree with this to a large extent.

There are several things I look for to identify whether a woman likes me or not....

1. Eye tracking (where does she look and how long?)
2. Preening behavior (does she fix her hair, touch her face?)
3. Proximity (how close is she?)
4. Nipple erection

I'm just curious if you pay attention to these things or do you think they're a load of bosh?

Ok I can see the first three... but the last? Maybe it's just cold!

 

[English Lady]

Body language is hugely important and I read alot in body language. I do believe it often speaks louder than the words a person is saying.

 

[Jackotheshadows]

To me, body language is the real conversation. Especially in a very-loud club.

The biggest is the eye contact. Flirty glances are one thing, but locking eyes with someone for two or three timeless seconds where there is mutual attraction always feels like a physical jolt, to me...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Kinesics was the rage 40 years ago. A guy named Birdwhistel invented the idea that body language means something.

Body language is too much hocus-pocus for me. I know what people DO.

I think action speaks louder than erect nipples.

 

[rgraham666]

I'm dyslexic when it comes to body language. I can see it, but it doesn't transmit much meaning to me.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I'm dyslexic when it comes to body language. I can see it, but it doesn't transmit much meaning to me.

Stole my words. I am the same way. I'm looking, I'm trying to descern what is going on, but in the end I'm helpless to figure it all out.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Kinesics has never been useful to me as a professional. It's only relevant when youre trying to establish rapport with someone. So proximity counts. Touching counts. Exposure counts.

I have no idea what an erect nipple means. But when a woman rubs herself when her husband leaves the room, or strokes my leg with her foot, I assume it means something.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You cant figure it out.

 

[Recidiva]

It's definitely an interesting subject for me. I take it on a person by person basis though. I don't imagine that one thing means something universally.

But I do think that it's a subject that makes you a keen observer of patterns on individuals. Like a poker player able to pick out by pattern when someone's bluffing, what their tells are.

Once someone becomes aware of these signals, though, they become used as techniques to lie to people and gain their confidence by manipulating the "unconscious" signals to which people respond.

A decent liar makes all of these tools dance to their tune.

I'm more interested in the people I can't read. So that's how I pay attention to it. When someone's body isn't telling me everything, to me, that indicates self awareness.

 

[Recidiva]

You cant figure it out.

I disagree, there are several body language reflexes and trends that you can figure out and use.

As a fighter, you have to school yourself to learn not to telegraph your moves through your body language.

Krav Maga fighters go so far as to never look an opponent in the eye because they believe there's a reflexive telegraphing that takes place a fraction of a second before you make a move, beyond your ability to control.

If you've ever done enough tournament fighting or training, this is a clear trend. A fighter in control of their body language has an edge in the ring.

A person in control of their body language has an edge socially.

 

[Recidiva]

A separate issue is reflexive emotional responses. Increased heart rate, flushing, a reaction to lying.

Decent actors or liars control this "reflex" and pass lie detector tests with flying colors, and can declare that the sky is polka dotted without a physiological reaction, faking all the signs of honesty.

Also, it's a myth that someone can't lie when you're looking them in their eyes. A decent liar will use that opportunity to seal the deal, giving the impression of being trustworthy.

 

[rgraham666]

Sociopathy does does give a person a distinct advantage in social interactions of all sorts.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Personally, I do my best to ignore body language up to the point where a really cute guy is obviously sporting a huge hard-on. (That's a good thing) or some clown tries to grab my tits for a quick feel (That's a bad thing for him).

 

[Recidiva]

Sociopathy does does give a person a distinct advantage in social interactions of all sorts.

Yeah, but it's not really necessarily being sociopathic.

As mentioned, playing poker, being an actor, or being a fighter, means that you learn control over the reflexive to give yourself an edge.

I know I can beat a lie detector test, but I'm not a sociopath. I'm just in better control of my responses and emotions than is expected.

Meditation also gives you insight into separating from thoughts and emotions and choosing rather than reacting.

Being a sociopath doesn't make you as good at control, it just gives you an absence of natural instincts that you then have to replace. But since they're not genuine, there's almost always something off about their depiction. It still results in "the creeps."

 

[ms.read]

How much store do you put into body language as an indicator of attraction?

I read somewhere that 93% of what is communicated between people is non-verbal. I agree with this to a large extent.

There are several things I look for to identify whether a woman likes me or not....

1. Eye tracking (where does she look and how long?)
2. Preening behavior (does she fix her hair, touch her face?)
3. Proximity (how close is she?)
4. Nipple erection

I'm just curious if you pay attention to these things or do you think they're a load of bosh?

Its all relative

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

RECIDIVA

I've seen a few fighters get knocked out from sucker punches.

I'm researching gladiators for a book I'm writing. The worst ones painted by the numbers, and the whole arena knew what was up when they fought. The best fighters feigned error and weakness and injury to manipulate an opponent. Consequently the opponent never knew when the problem was real or a set-up.

 

[ms.read]

james you are an evil evil man.....

 

[Recidiva]

RECIDIVA

I've seen a few fighters get knocked out from sucker punches.

I'm researching gladiators for a book I'm writing. The worst ones painted by the numbers, and the whole arena knew what was up when they fought. The best fighters feigned error and weakness and injury to manipulate an opponent. Consequently the opponent never knew when the problem was real or a set-up.

Exactly. When you're dealing with strategy, you need to learn how to lie with your body. Effectively.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

rgraham

I'm a sociopath. I really am. It doesnt appear on any tests, and my personal history is almost flawless. I have no criminal history. My credit is excellent. And unless youre my target, you can trust your life or your money or your daughter to my tender mercies. I'm not greedy. And I'm very disciplined.

I use consistency as a tool to manipulate you. You trust me because I'm always honest and trustworthy. ALMOST. Ninety-nine percent of the time. When I strike you never suspect it was me.

I'm a patient predator.

 

[rgraham666]

I knew that.

 

[Recidiva]

rgraham

I'm a sociopath. I really am. It doesnt appear on any tests, and my personal history is almost flawless. I have no criminal history. My credit is excellent. And unless youre my target, you can trust your life or your money or your daughter to my tender mercies. I'm not greedy. And I'm very disciplined.

I use consistency as a tool to manipulate you. You trust me because I'm always honest and trustworthy. ALMOST. Ninety-nine percent of the time. When I strike you never suspect it was me.

I'm a patient predator.

You might be surprised to know, but at least your online persona isn't particularly well constructed to make this a revelation that this is at least how you think of yourself.

I can say the same about myself and I'm not a sociopath. I was just born a very good liar and cheat and I never got caught. I did grow out of it though. So someone with both sides of the coin is in fair shape to pick someone missing half of the deal.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

While I'm sure there are those who rely on body language to either deceive or manipulate, I'm not one of those people. I merely rely on it as a useful aid in deciphering what others may be feeling or as a useful method of communicating something to someone in a subtle manner.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

RECIDIVA

I can make you think whatever I want you to think about me. I have my own agenda. Like...I enjoy sparring with people. People wont spar with you when you kiss their ass. Sparring helps me sharpen my skills. And if you hate me enough, you spar better.

My genius for pissing people off also works well for getting rid of clingy women. Theyre not depressed or crazy when I go. Theyre full of piss & vinegar about my red herrings. And they use that energy to move on rather than fret and cry.

One of the resident shitheads here called me a 'humiliation whore.' It's impossible to humiliate me....because everything is an option (tool) in my bag of tricks. I'm equally at home in the mire or the ivory tower.