"Blonde is beautiful" mystique

[NoJo]

I haven't read your stories, but I will check them out as soon as I have time. (I am 45, btw.)

I was going to ask why you selected that avatar, but I think you just answered my question.

Alice

She's a bit tasty.

 

[Guest]

I'm a mid-thirties blonde.

I used to dye it red, because it definitely was a flag inviting certain assumptions.

 

[Honey123]

I haven't read your stories, but I will check them out as soon as I have time. (I am 45, btw.)

I am 40...

I was going to ask why you selected that avatar, but I think you just answered my question. Alice

Well, the Avatar is me...so I am not quite sure what the answer is that I gave you

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

It's a given that no woman with a truly beautiful face should be a blonde. Why? Because blonde hair distracts attention away from the face.

Opposites tend to attract. In cultures that feature dark hair, blonde is unusual. That makes it desirable to many. Children tend to have lighter color hair so there's also an "innocence" factor to consider.

I wonder how many folks would think these women would be more beautiful as blondes.

Skanky brunettes

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/elizabeth/pics/lizingreen.jpg

http://www.poster.net/loren-sophia/loren-sophia-photo-sophia-loren-6200454.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00050/catherine_zeta_jones_50705a.jpg

Rumple Foreskin

 

[NoJo]

It's a given that no woman with a truly beautiful face should be a blonde. Why? Because blonde hair distracts attention away from the face.

Opposites tend to attract. In cultures that feature dark hair, blonde is unusual. That makes it desirable to many. Children tend to have lighter color hair so there's also an "innocence" factor to consider.

I wonder how many folks would think these women would be more beautiful as blondes.

Skanky brunettes

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/elizabeth/pics/lizingreen.jpg

http://www.poster.net/loren-sophia/loren-sophia-photo-sophia-loren-6200454.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00050/catherine_zeta_jones_50705a.jpg

Rumple Foreskin

what taste, Rumple.

I think the most sexy film star ever was brunette Loretta Young , playing opposite "bad girl" Jean Harlow in the 1931 movie "Platinum Blonde". In them days blondes were usually baddies, brunettes were the good girls!

 

[alice_underneath]

I am 40...



Well, the Avatar is me...so I am not quite sure what the answer is that I gave you

It tells me a lot. Most notably, that you were much too hard on yourself when you said:

"most of my stories deal with 40 year old women ~ and their characteristics are based on what I look like. Which isn't always a good thing....."

You just proved my point about the insidious effect of the media images in our society.

Women - even "tasty" ones (to use Joe's term) - often have negative images of their own bodies that are entirely unfounded.

My husband tells me frequently how beautiful he thinks I am.... how much he appreciates x, y, and z about my body. But still, there is a nagging voice in my head that compares my body to the 21-year-olds plastered all over every television, magazine, and movie screen.

My husband sees me in a much more positive light than I see myself.

Joe sees you in a much more positive light than you just described yourself.

And that is my point about the impact of the "beautiful mystique" in our society.

Alice

 

[NoJo]

It tells me a lot. Most notably, that you were much too hard on yourself when you said:

"most of my stories deal with 40 year old women ~ and their characteristics are based on what I look like. Which isn't always a good thing....."

You just proved my point about the insidious effect of the media images in our society.

Women - even "tasty" ones (to use Joe's term) - often have negative images of their own bodies that are entirely unfounded.

My husband tells me frequently how beautiful he thinks I am.... how much he appreciates x, y, and z about my body. But still, there is a nagging voice in my head that compares my body to the 21-year-olds plastered all over every television, magazine, and movie screen.

My husband sees me in a much more positive light than I see myself.

Joe sees you in a much more positive light than you just described yourself.

And that is my point about the impact of the "beautiful mystique" in our society.

Alice

"Tasty" isn't my term, it's in common parlance. "Deflegnnicht" is my own term, which I use to mean "little sister from another life". I've seen few Deflegnnicht women in my life, but I remember them to this day.

 

[Honey123]

It tells me a lot. Most notably, that you were much too hard on yourself when you said:

"most of my stories deal with 40 year old women ~ and their characteristics are based on what I look like. Which isn't always a good thing....."

You just proved my point about the insidious effect of the media images in our society.

Women - even "tasty" ones (to use Joe's term) - often have negative images of their own bodies that are entirely unfounded.

My husband tells me frequently how beautiful he thinks I am.... how much he appreciates x, y, and z about my body. But still, there is a nagging voice in my head that compares my body to the 21-year-olds plastered all over every television, magazine, and movie screen.

My husband sees me in a much more positive light than I see myself.

Joe sees you in a much more positive light than you just described yourself.

And that is my point about the impact of the "beautiful mystique" in our society.

Alice

Point taken and yes, I agree. I am hard on myself...very hard. But, I am not on other people. I think they are beautiful no matter what size or look.

There is something called "confidence" that I have come to accept that that is something I do not have.

I used to admire this girl who was a bit chunky, yet the way she held herself in the clothes that she wore made me a bit jealous. She had confidence ~ she felt good about herself.

I look at my AV and see everything wrong with me and yet, I still use my AV's. Why? I think some part of me is proud of what I have accomplished in my working out, and the other part is to make me look at it, to try and see what others see...

I disagree in making beauty in the forefront in our society. I think the images our teenagers see on TV or in magazines are ruining their self-respect, their self-images.

I wish there were more role models that show that being healthy, strong and not so beautiful is OK...

 

[bashfull]

Pardon me for interrupting, but I've said it before and I'll say it again...


Tis the light within that shines upon the canvass without.

*and now back to your regularly scheduled show*

 

[NoJo]

Point taken and yes, I agree. I am hard on myself...very hard. But, I am not on other people. I think they are beautiful no matter what size or look.

There is something called "confidence" that I have come to accept that that is something I do not have.

I used to admire this girl who was a bit chunky, yet the way she held herself in the clothes that she wore made me a bit jealous. She had confidence ~ she felt good about herself.

I look at my AV and see everything wrong with me and yet, I still use my AV's. Why? I think some part of me is proud of what I have accomplished in my working out, and the other part is to make me look at it, to try and see what others see...

I disagree in making beauty in the forefront in our society. I think the images our teenagers see on TV or in magazines are ruining their self-respect, their self-images.

I wish there were more role models that show that being healthy, strong and not so beautiful is OK...

I had this conversation yesterday. Turned out all of three women I spoke to had zero self-confidence, and I know for a fact many men (and women) think they're attractive. Seems to be a commonplace.


I think certain women have "classic beauty". I can't define it though, except to say they have a timeless look -- you can imagine people of any period in history seeing them as beautiful.

 

[Honey123]

I had this conversation yesterday. Turned out all of three women I spoke to had zero self-confidence, and I know for a fact many men (and women) think they're attractive. Seems to be a commonplace.


I think certain women have "classic beauty". I can't define it though, except to say they have a timeless look -- you can imagine people of any period in history seeing them as beautiful.

so, how did we get this zero self-confidence?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Honey, speaking as another woman, I know what points you are talking about- but, speaking as a horny lesbian, I cannot see a damn thing wrong with your body.
Are you talking about the little bit of weight in your thighs? Forgeddaboudit. It's gorgeous and glorious, and I do NOT like women who have a straight line up the inside of their thighs and five inches of space across the crotch. YUUUUCK! Your thighs are shapely and inviting.
You have a terrific ass, lovely hip-bones, and a beautiful back. You look like you have enough muscle to be graceful in motion.
That's what I see.

 

[Guest]

To get back to the article and some early posts—the original Kong was deemed more than subliminally racist when it came out, in fact it’s obvious (duh…) so I would not cite the above article as ‘over the top’. In both films there is a good-sized population of very dark-skinned, nappy-haired women from which sacrificial victims have been taken (for who knows how long, but it could be centuries) and the ape’s never been affected the way the blond gets to him. It’s a plainly in-your-face insult to non-white women (the hair color doesn’t matter as much as the skin’s, I’m sure KK would have gone wonky over a red-head or ‘dirty’ blond).

In fact, the politics or PC-ness of the film can get rather convoluted when one presumes the race angle and then from the racist side feels threatened that the film “encourages” black men going after white women (Yes! This was thought after the original film’s release.)

Still, the original film is a fave of mine. It was the first movie that ever effected me as film (hey, I was only 16). And—its ‘love’ story is the thing, so in the larger scheme of things the race card don’t matter. But it’s there. (If the setting had been in the Aztec empire of Tenochtitlan and a big Indio-ape had chosen a Spanish doña over a ‘virgen morena’, I’d think the same.)

Me? I have naturally curly hair so when I was a teen I wanted straight hair. I ironed it once, when it was very long, and strangers would ask me if I was Joan Baez!

I don’t want to look white or non-Mexican in any way but I am as dissatisfied with my body and face as many woman approaching 60. For the record, it’s other women who make me feel beautiful (more so than most of the men I know, though once in a while a bloke gets it right ).

Perdita

 

[Honey123]

Are you talking about the little bit of weight in your thighs?

Oh Great..you see them too?

 

[alice_underneath]

so, how did we get this zero self-confidence?

Ever seen a photo of Nicole Kidman before the hair and makeup guys work their magic? Her hair is frizzy and her face pretty, but remarkably plain.

Did you know that a leg model was used instead of Julia Roberts for various close-up scenes in the movie Pretty Woman?

Any idea how much air-brushing goes into the creation of a Fashion magazine cover?

We are constantly bombarded with images of flawless women - but even the women who are technically in the images don't really look like that!

The inevitable result of this bombardment with images of perfection is a nagging sense that we just don't measure up.

Zero self-confidence? I think that's exaggerating the case. But I do not know a single woman who would tell you that she is totally satisfied with her own appearance.

I think the images our teenagers see on TV or in magazines are ruining their self-respect, their self-images.

It kills me to listen to my daughter (16) and her friends.

"My boobs are too small."

"My boobs are too big."

"I am too skinny."

"I am too fat."

"My face is too round."

"My face is too long."

etc.

They pick themselves apart, compare themselves to an impossible ideal, and destroy their self-confidence in the process.

And the irony is that the lack of self-confidence does more to reduce their attractiveness than any possible flaw in their physique.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

To get back to the article and some early posts—the original Kong was deemed more than subliminally racist when it came out, in fact it’s obvious (duh…) so I would not cite the above article as ‘over the top’. In both films there is a good-sized population of very dark-skinned, nappy-haired women from which sacrificial victims have been taken (for who knows how long, but it could be centuries) and the ape’s never been affected the way the blond gets to him. It’s a plainly in-your-face insult to non-white women (the hair color doesn’t matter as much as the skin’s, I’m sure KK would have gone wonky over a red-head or ‘dirty’ blond).

In fact, the politics or PC-ness of the film can get rather convoluted when one presumes the race angle and then from the racist side feels threatened that the film “encourages” black men going after white women (Yes! This was thought after the original film’s release.)

Still, the original film is a fave of mine. It was the first movie that ever effected me as film (hey, I was only 16). And—its ‘love’ story is the thing, so in the larger scheme of things the race card don’t matter. But it’s there. (If the setting had been in the Aztec empire of Tenochtitlan and a big Indio-ape had chosen a Spanish doña over a ‘virgen morena’, I’d think the same.)

Me? I have naturally curly hair so when I was a teen I wanted straight hair. I ironed it once, when it was very long, and strangers would ask me if I was Joan Baez!

I don’t want to look white or non-Mexican in any way but I am as dissatisfied with my body and face as many woman approaching 60. For the record, it’s other women who make me feel beautiful (more so than most of the men I know, though once in a while a bloke gets it right ).

Perdita

My son is part of the new Kong generation. Hooray!

It's nice to see Hispanic women being brought out into the spotlight anymore...they are pretty hot but underated.
Actually you can go into any race and culture and find very beautiful(not just physically) women today.
It just stinks how the media is taking away from what is truly beautiful about a person. No wonder many have such low self esteem.

 

[Belegon]

And the irony is that the lack of self-confidence does more to reduce their attractiveness than any possible flaw in their physique.

this statement is so very true as to be almost physically painful...

as a man who loves to photograph his gorgeous female friends, I sooooooo hate the attitude of "I'm not pretty enough" and the hiding thing many women/girls have. Shyness is one thing, but actual belief that they are unattractive? Damn it, my opinion matters when I am making the statement of who I think is pretty! Not some magazine cover...

 

[ltnsfr007]

Blonde is beautiful

Where's all the blondes ?

 

[cloudy]

Where's all the blondes ?

the General Board is that way. =====>

 

[bashfull]

the General Board is that way. =====>

I thought it was THAT way....

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[cloudy]

I thought it was THAT way....

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maybe.....I'm not there all that much, thank goodness.

 

[bashfull]

maybe.....I'm not there all that much, thank goodness.

*scratching head* Hmmmm...perhaps it's...


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that way?

Oh wait...I think's that's me! <blush>

 

[Honey123]

maybe.....I'm not there all that much, thank goodness.

That's 'coz you're not blonde...

Perdita...I have to say that I saw all three Kong movies recently, and didn't even think about the racial side of it...*maybe it was just me?

I guess when you think about it, we are all beautiful in our own little ways.

 

[Guest]

Perdita...I have to say that I saw all three Kong movies recently, and didn't even think about the racial side of it...*maybe it was just me?

I think it's just whether you're white, or not. Seriously. P.

 

[cloudy]

I think it's just whether you're white, or not. Seriously. P.

I'm not sure if I'm going to express this well or not, but here goes...

Maybe, when the original was made, blonde was just the epitome of beauty, as it still seems to be.

Racial undertones, sure....I see that, as well, but I think, in the context of the time when it was made....

I'm not saying this well. Never mind.