Bladder control as humiliation and punishment?

[midlifecrisispanties]

Mistress has just instituted this one. (As in just now.) I did not do an assigned chore and now I'm being punished. She says that I am to keep drinking water slowly for the next 4 hours. I am to concentrate on holding my bladder until midnight. If I leak or spill, then I will be punished. She says that she might just make me wait all night until I just can't possibly hold it anymore. She might make me do it in my pants!

Either way, I am to keep my jeans on over my panties and keep sipping water. And in an hour, I have to go outside and walk the dogs.

Have any of you used this sort of thing as punishment for your subs? How did they do? I'm feeling a little worried already.

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[PaxNurgle]

Well, my advice to you would be, let go in your pants if you can't hold it after a while; because otherwise you can cause yourself kidney stones or possible other unpleasant heath effects. That may be her ultimate goal anyway, to watch you to wet yourself and thereby subject yourself to humiliation and punishment at Her hands.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Well, my advice to you would be, let go in your pants if you can't hold it after a while; because otherwise you can cause yourself kidney stones or possible other unpleasant heath effects. That may be her ultimate goal anyway, to watch you to wet yourself and thereby subject yourself to humiliation and punishment at Her hands.

I'm thinking it must be. Because I've only been an hour and 20 minutes and I'm getting misty eyed and achy. There's no way 4 hours is even reasonable. I made it through walking the dogs, but sitting at my desk is pressing on it. I think she wants me to fail.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

I have never assigned this, but I chuckle inwardly every time I’ve thought about it. There is something delightful about assigning tasks for which there is no reasonable chance of success. It proves urine charge.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

I have never assigned this, but I chuckle inwardly every time I’ve thought about it. There is something delightful about assigning tasks for which there is no reasonable chance of success. It proves urine charge.

Hah! Nice pun.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Now I know failure and humiliation was the point.

It is confirmed. She wanted me to fail. Mistress told me to put the water away and put on my pajamas for bed. She says bed time is 10:00.

Walking into the bedroom to change, I find she has pulled out a couple of our spare blankets, trifolded them and laid it over my side of the bed. She says we're going to lie in bed and listen to an audio book until midnight. I made it to pulling up my pajama bottoms and lying down, then gush!

I tried to stop it but when she heard my panicky moan, then looked over and saw the little puddle on my pajamas, she just chuckled and said, "might as well finish now."

The relief was so intense my eyes dripped tears. That was ten minutes ago.

My punishment is not only to sleep all night in my puddle, but to get on my phone and post:

"Hi, I'm a dirty little sissy princess who pees the bed like a little girl." She's watching me type this. I'm so done.

I guess next time I'll do the dishes when she leaves me a note to do them while she's out.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Your girlfriend/mistress (wife?) is awesome.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Your girlfriend/mistress (wife?) is awesome.

Wife/Mistress. And, yes, she is. She's asleep now, but I don't dare move from this spot. And... By the way... You'll notice I never said I didn't like this punishment.

Good thing our teen was off at a friend's house tonight.

Hopefully she'll let me shower for work in the morning, though. I am awfully squidgy.

Night everyone.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Followup

I had to get up at 5 am, put the blankets and pajamas in the washer, shower, then go about my normal chore of dog feeding and walking.

She threatened to have me go hang the bkankets and now not-so-wet clothes from the patio railing and display my shame to the world. I begged her not to. She chose to be lenient. I thanked her and she said, "remember this the next time you want to ignore a direct request ir command.

"Yes, Maam." Maybe if I tell her I liked the shame and humiliation of it, she'll hold it back as a punishment because she knows I like it? Oh, the web we weave.

 

[supercollider00]

This is something I've recently explored a bit and it's quite powerful. I was told to hold and then played with, etc. It can create such an intense feeling!

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

This is something I've recently explored a bit and it's quite powerful. I was told to hold and then played with, etc. It can create such an intense feeling!

It certainly creates incentive to behave. The humiliation of wetting the bed was intense as a dterent for misbehaving next time. I've heard that you can "piss edge" as well. Releasing small spurts, and holding until told to let go. I'm afraid I'd fail at it.

 

[JJElsee]

This is something my wife and I used to do as a turn on, but since she became dominant, it went from pleasure to punishment. Much like the OP though I actually like this punishment.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

This is something my wife and I used to do as a turn on, but since she became dominant, it went from pleasure to punishment. Much like the OP though I actually like this punishment.

Yeah, I'm afraid to tell her I like it. Because that's when she'll take it away from me.

 

[Master_Doctor]

Mistress has just instituted this one. (As in just now.) I did not do an assigned chore and now I'm being punished. She says that I am to keep drinking water slowly for the next 4 hours. I am to concentrate on holding my bladder until midnight. If I leak or spill, then I will be punished. She says that she might just make me wait all night until I just can't possibly hold it anymore. She might make me do it in my pants!

Either way, I am to keep my jeans on over my panties and keep sipping water. And in an hour, I have to go outside and walk the dogs.

Have any of you used this sort of thing as punishment for your subs? How did they do? I'm feeling a little worried already.

https://a1tb.com/s1/6/5/9/2/0/3022659201.jpg

For myself. As a Dom and Master. I get no enjoyment out of setting up my sub/slave to fail. There is nothing positive about it, there is nothing that this sort of thing teaches ones s type except that you cant be trusted.... that you only want to set up your partner to fail. In my experience and opinion this sort of thing certainly does not help to establish trust or closeness.

I HAVE made my slaves kneel and hold their bladder while on their knees... and not allow them to get up. In the end they have to make a choice of either to get up and go pee, or to do as they promised and stay in position, even if it means loosing control of their bladder. Whats the difference? When my s type looses control I encourage her because the obeyed even during a demanding and humiliating situation. I help to clean her up and remind her that she did very good and that im proud of her.

It seems to me, that in your example, your Dom(me) just wanted to humiliate and possibly degrade you. Only you can really answer that.

Respectfully submitted.

Master Doctor

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

For myself. As a Dom and Master. I get no enjoyment out of setting up my sub/slave to fail. There is nothing positive about it, there is nothing that this sort of thing teaches ones s type except that you cant be trusted.... that you only want to set up your partner to fail. In my experience and opinion this sort of thing certainly does not help to establish trust or closeness.

I HAVE made my slaves kneel and hold their bladder while on their knees... and not allow them to get up. In the end they have to make a choice of either to get up and go pee, or to do as they promised and stay in position, even if it means loosing control of their bladder. Whats the difference? When my s type looses control I encourage her because the obeyed even during a demanding and humiliating situation. I help to clean her up and remind her that she did very good and that im proud of her.

It seems to me, that in your example, your Dom(me) just wanted to humiliate and possibly degrade you. Only you can really answer that.

Respectfully submitted.

Master Doctor

I understand your POV here. I've been on "both ends of the flogger." In this current situation, I have agreed to accept some humiliation play. There are degrees of consented humiliation. I know that because of our situations and circumstances outside the bedroom, that she will never do anything permanently damaging, wehether physical or emotional. She will play at the threat, however, as a means to remind me who is in which position here. Yes, this was a purposeful exercise in humiliation. We did discuss the severity of it the next day. I agreed not to disregard an order and she offered the olive branch of not being that mean again unless my actions warrant it. So, I think we're okay.

Besides which, she now knows that bed-wetting or pants-wetting is not 100% objectionable to me... Which means that it is not likely to be used often, because I might start liking it, which defeats the purpose of a punishment. We "mindplay" like that a lot. "Oh, you don't object to that. Guess I'll use something different next time."

 

[Master_Doctor]

I understand your POV here. I've been on "both ends of the flogger." In this current situation, I have agreed to accept some humiliation play. There are degrees of consented humiliation. I know that because of our situations and circumstances outside the bedroom, that she will never do anything permanently damaging, wehether physical or emotional. She will play at the threat, however, as a means to remind me who is in which position here. Yes, this was a purposeful exercise in humiliation. We did discuss the severity of it the next day. I agreed not to disregard an order and she offered the olive branch of not being that mean again unless my actions warrant it. So, I think we're okay.

Besides which, she now knows that bed-wetting or pants-wetting is not 100% objectionable to me... Which means that it is not likely to be used often, because I might start liking it, which defeats the purpose of a punishment. We "mindplay" like that a lot. "Oh, you don't object to that. Guess I'll use something different next time."

Of Course, If this treatment is completely consensual and agreeable with you then please ignore any objections me or anyone else says about it I was not attempting to judge you or your mistress. It is your dynamic, not mine. If I came across that way I will apologize. My comments were intended more to show that in my own dynamics I am much more focused on encouraging and supporting my s types. Even if they enjoy some elements of humiliation. I dont intend to ever degrade any of my girls. They are treasures beyond worth.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Of Course, If this treatment is completely consensual and agreeable with you then please ignore any objections me or anyone else says about it I was not attempting to judge you or your mistress. It is your dynamic, not mine. If I came across that way I will apologize. My comments were intended more to show that in my own dynamics I am much more focused on encouraging and supporting my s types. Even if they enjoy some elements of humiliation. I dont intend to ever degrade any of my girls. They are treasures beyond worth.

No offense taken. Many Dom/mes are convinced that a sub is property, to be treated as they see fit, with no qualifiers. Some are convinced that submissive automatically means massochist and Dominant naturally means sadist. Some of the modern class of dominant, believes that rape, abuse, torture, forced consumption of bodily wastes, forced animal play, and the like are entitlements of rheir assumed rank. It is refreshing to know that there are those who still believe in honor, respect, and the sacred nature of the D/s pact. Bravo, Sir.

 

[littlebirdjoy]

Y'all two just made me smile.

I'm undecided if I'm going to join in this conversation or not. I've headed down this road a bit recently but it has nothing to do with punishment or humiliation. It's closer to Master_ Doctor's concept. It's not something I've shared openly so I'm not sure I'm ready to. But the two of y'all talking it out just made me smile ♡

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Y'all two just made me smile.

I'm undecided if I'm going to join in this conversation or not. I've headed down this road a bit recently but it has nothing to do with punishment or humiliation. It's closer to Master_ Doctor's concept. It's not something I've shared openly so I'm not sure I'm ready to. But the two of y'all talking it out just made me smile ♡

I'm always open to hearing/reading any point of view - except from the aforementioned thinkers. Please share.

 

[Master_Doctor]

No offense taken. Many Dom/mes are convinced that a sub is property, to be treated as they see fit, with no qualifiers. Some are convinced that submissive automatically means massochist and Dominant naturally means sadist. Some of the modern class of dominant, believes that rape, abuse, torture, forced consumption of bodily wastes, forced animal play, and the like are entitlements of rheir assumed rank. It is refreshing to know that there are those who still believe in honor, respect, and the sacred nature of the D/s pact. Bravo, Sir.

Now, to be fair. I have owned a few s types who identified as that sort of slave. I.e meaning they believed that I owned them completely lock stock and barrel. But I have something that is very rarely ever mentioned much less discussed openly. My own limits. Every sane person has limits, regardless of their...(as I often say) polarity. Things they wont allow to be done to them, or that they would never themselves do to another human being. I am granted authority over a s type. Of her own free will... and I choose to accept that authority and responsibility as well.

Thank you for the compliment. As littlebirdjoy has mentioned... my use of bladder control is more of a control/trust building exercise. I admit it may have humiliation elements (according to the mind of the individual submissive in question). But that isnt the primary reason for the exercise. When I collar my girl(s) every morning, we mutually establish our commitment each day, my side of the commitment is to love, care, and protect to the best of my ability my submissive. This is just how I operate.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

Now, to be fair. I have owned a few s types who identified as that sort of slave. I.e meaning they believed that I owned them completely lock stock and barrel. But I have something that is very rarely ever mentioned much less discussed openly. My own limits. Every sane person has limits, regardless of their...(as I often say) polarity. Things they wont allow to be done to them, or that they would never themselves do to another human being. I am granted authority over a s type. Of her own free will... and I choose to accept that authority and responsibility as well.

Thank you for the compliment. As littlebirdjoy has mentioned... my use of bladder control is more of a control/trust building exercise. I admit it may have humiliation elements (according to the mind of the individual submissive in question). But that isnt the primary reason for the exercise. When I collar my girl(s) every morning, we mutually establish our commitment each day, my side of the commitment is to love, care, and protect to the best of my ability my submissive. This is just how I operate.

You are, unfortunately, a rarity, from what I've seen around. Besides my current wife/Mistress, of course.

 

[littlebirdjoy]

You are, unfortunately, a rarity, from what I've seen around. Besides my current wife/Mistress, of course.

I've known maybe 5 in the last 17 years like him, as he appears. Rare is an understatement.

Alright, I'll bite. I've been looking for a place to discuss this and it is why I came back here in the first place. I've just got to think what I'm going to share and what I'm not. I suck at the distinction.

So, in our relationship we arent using it for punishment or humiliation or control. We are using it for trust. He wanted me to step out of my comfort zone and do something for and with him that I've never considered doing and am not getting something out of specifically. It is being used in two ways: #1 I'm a little/ middle and I do not consider myself at all interested in ABDL things. However, we are using elements of this to reinforce that it is because he wishes it. It is one of those constant reminder things; like my bell and my plug. I'm not allowed to use TP when I pee. So it is a reminder.
The second thing has to do with connection and care. I'm working on learning a skill because of the intimacy involved. It is a skill that terrified me, and to a degree still does. At the same time with the logic and rationale he has given me, it hits all of the buttons I like. It is a way for me to be physically and emotionally present. To put him and his needs at the forefront, and do ** hard thing** that if I succeed will please him.
I know i beat around the Bush, but like i said I'm really not ready to own it myself even :blush:
Thank you for bringing this topic to the discussion.

 

[midlifecrisispanties]

I've known maybe 5 in the last 17 years like him, as he appears. Rare is an understatement.

Alright, I'll bite. I've been looking for a place to discuss this and it is why I came back here in the first place. I've just got to think what I'm going to share and what I'm not. I suck at the distinction.

So, in our relationship we arent using it for punishment or humiliation or control. We are using it for trust. He wanted me to step out of my comfort zone and do something for and with him that I've never considered doing and am not getting something out of specifically. It is being used in two ways: #1 I'm a little/ middle and I do not consider myself at all interested in ABDL things. However, we are using elements of this to reinforce that it is because he wishes it. It is one of those constant reminder things; like my bell and my plug. I'm not allowed to use TP when I pee. So it is a reminder.
The second thing has to do with connection and care. I'm working on learning a skill because of the intimacy involved. It is a skill that terrified me, and to a degree still does. At the same time with the logic and rationale he has given me, it hits all of the buttons I like. It is a way for me to be physically and emotionally present. To put him and his needs at the forefront, and do ** hard thing** that if I succeed will please him.
I know i beat around the Bush, but like i said I'm really not ready to own it myself even :blush:
Thank you for bringing this topic to the discussion.

I fully understand this. In the case of my wife/Mistress, because of her health issues, her sex drive is nil. So these control "games" are more of a way for her to stay mentally and emotionally connected. This particular "punishment," was really a test of my limits in terms of submitting to minor tasks of humiliation, as is in our new arrangement. She knows I like giving in to the control after having to be "in charge" all week long with everything else we have going on. She tests me with the understanding that she will never ask me to do anything permanently damaging or that might have to be explained to a doctor. In turn, she knows I am here to care for her needs. It is an emotional bond with the added benefit of me getting to "get off" once in a while. (At her command, of course. )

 

[L1511p]

Variation on the theme

My sub girl occasionally asks me to control her with a catheter [disclaimer - you have to be sterile with this stuff - you can be taught to do it properly pretty easily but dont do it till you understand the methods and limitations.]

You insert it, see piss flow, plug it, fill the retaining balloon and she cant piss herself however much she wants to, you can leave her in this state all day, relieving her yourself occasionally and maybe putting it back in her later or you can actually make it worse by injecting cold sterile water into her bladder, she totally loves it.

You can fuck etc with her wearing it.

 

[cookiecat]

My sub girl occasionally asks me to control her with a catheter [disclaimer - you have to be sterile with this stuff - you can be taught to do it properly pretty easily but dont do it till you understand the methods and limitations.]

You insert it, see piss flow, plug it, fill the retaining balloon and she cant piss herself however much she wants to, you can leave her in this state all day, relieving her yourself occasionally and maybe putting it back in her later or you can actually make it worse by injecting cold sterile water into her bladder, she totally loves it.

You can fuck etc with her wearing it.

Very hot. Would love to try this.

It sounds like you're very careful. Has she had any negative issues like soreness or uti's?

Thanks.