Black people in England and Wales are four times more likely to die from COVID-19

[Counselor706]

London -- Black people in England and Wales are four times more likely to die from the coronavirus than their white counterparts, according to government data released on Thursday. People of Indian, Pakistani, and other minority-ethnic backgrounds are also at greater risk of dying from COVID-19 than white people, the data showed.

The data was published by Britain's Office of National Statistics (ONS) and adjusted for age. When the figures were also adjusted to account for factors like socio-economic status and self-reported health and disability characteristics, the ONS found that black people are still nearly two times more likely to die from COVID-19 than white people.

"These results show that the difference between ethnic groups in COVID-19 mortality is partly a result of socio-economic disadvantage and other circumstances, but a remaining part of the difference has not yet been explained," the ONS said.

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[Saint_Ann]

Why does England oppress black people?

 

[HisArpy]

Why does England oppress black people?

It's racist to require that they have a National Health Care card.

 

[Saint_Ann]

It's racist to require that they have a National Health Care card.

And here I only thought they oppressed Muslims and eastern Europeans.

 

[Curmudgeonly]

Odd since nationalized health care is supposed to be the cure for those. . .

. . . ills. Is it not?

 

[DeYaKen]

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Our public transport and health service is predominantly staffed by black or asian people. These are the jobs where you are at the highest risk of contracting the disease so it is hardly surprising that the disease is more common amongst them. What is encouraging is that there is already an inquiry being set up to see if that is the only reason. What a shame that you chose to quote only part of the story.

 

[bellisarius]

Our public transport and health service is predominantly staffed by black or asian people. These are the jobs where you are at the highest risk of contracting the disease so it is hardly surprising that the disease is more common amongst them. What is encouraging is that there is already an inquiry being set up to see if that is the only reason. What a shame that you chose to quote only part of the story.

Gotta keep those Woolie's and Wog's in their place ya know. It's the British way.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Our public transport and health service is predominantly staffed by black or asian people. These are the jobs where you are at the highest risk of contracting the disease so it is hardly surprising that the disease is more common amongst them. What is encouraging is that there is already an inquiry being set up to see if that is the only reason. What a shame that you chose to quote only part of the story.

Doing the jobs the ruling race won't do???

 

[oggbashan]

Doing the jobs the ruling race won't do???

No. It is a career where you are likely to progress despite your race.

Stupidly the government stopped paying UK's student nurses a bursary to get qualified and were surprised when the number of UK applicants dropped.

A nurse studying in the UK now has to pay back a massive student debt,

Even if you are resident in the UK it is much cheaper to study to become a nurse elsewhere and then come back to the UK.

Madness!

 

[hobbit.]

this explains it -

https://www.facebook.com/memz.sxi/videos/2609875759116373/

 

[hobbit.]

Doing the jobs the ruling race won't do???

Gods Master race of choice actually. Not mere rulers.

 

[SpeareChucker]

No. It is a career where you are likely to progress despite your race.

Stupidly the government stopped paying UK's student nurses a bursary to get qualified and were surprised when the number of UK applicants dropped.

A nurse studying in the UK now has to pay back a massive student debt,

Even if you are resident in the UK it is much cheaper to study to become a nurse elsewhere and then come back to the UK.

Madness!

Thank you for the ancillary reenforcement of my point.

 

[sygn]

Our public transport and health service is predominantly staffed by black or asian people. These are the jobs where you are at the highest risk of contracting the disease so it is hardly surprising that the disease is more common amongst them.

Yup. That's indisputable.

The risk of becoming covid-positive:

Front-line workers (bus drivers, supermarket and hospital workers) are more at risk for catching the virus. And many of them are from minority groups.

What is encouraging is that there is already an inquiry being set up to see if that is the only reason.

As to the risk of progressing from covid-positive to severe illness

Yes, again % of ICU occupancy and death rates/compared to popullation demographics - are much higher among minorities.

And I'm certain, too that social factors play a role:
Be it higher exposure, poverty, unfair allocation of resources Or bad habits.

But I suspect that the virus has a certain genetic selectivity too.

Why are men disproportionately represented in ICU or among the dead? They all have wives and mothers, so they certainly passed the virus to them too.
--Why so many Somalis dead in Norways, and fewer Poles? Poles make 3-4 times the popullation of Somalis, and I bet they're in menial front-line jobs too.
-- And let's not forget that covid is a genetically engineered virus accidentally leaked from the lab. So it's bound to behave less typically than other coronaviruses.

 

[sygn]

Recent research @ Mayo clinic suggests that African-Americans have a genetic susceptibility to life-threatening cardiac complications caused by covid19.



2020 May 5
Genetic Susceptibility for COVID-19-Associated Sudden Cardiac Death in African Americans

"Current evidence supports the notion that the common ion channel variants p.Asp85Asn-KCNE1 and p.Ser1103Tyr-SCN5A confer an increased risk for cardiac events: DI-LQTS (drug-induced long QT) syndrome and DI-SCD ( drug-induced sudden cardiac death ).

Importantly, p.Ser1103Tyr-SCN5A is seen almost exclusively in individuals of African-descent and its frequency in that population (∼8%) is higher than that of p.

Implications of p.Ser1103Tyr-SCN5A during the COVID-19 Pandemic

Direct and/or indirect myocardial injury/stress, as assessed by cardiac biomarkers such as troponin I and brain-type natriuretic peptide, has emerged as both a prominent and prognostic feature in COVID-19.

Importantly, recent studies have shown that between 11% and 25% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin had QTc values rise above the critical 500 ms threshold."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7198426/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/l...n image to zoom&p=PMC3&id=7198426_gr1_lrg.jpg

 

[bellisarius]

Recent research @ Mayo clinic suggests that African-Americans have a genetic susceptibility to life-threatening cardiac complications caused by covid19.



2020 May 5
Genetic Susceptibility for COVID-19-Associated Sudden Cardiac Death in African Americans

"Current evidence supports the notion that the common ion channel variants p.Asp85Asn-KCNE1 and p.Ser1103Tyr-SCN5A confer an increased risk for cardiac events: DI-LQTS (drug-induced long QT) syndrome and DI-SCD ( drug-induced sudden cardiac death ).

Importantly, p.Ser1103Tyr-SCN5A is seen almost exclusively in individuals of African-descent and its frequency in that population (∼8%) is higher than that of p.

Implications of p.Ser1103Tyr-SCN5A during the COVID-19 Pandemic

Direct and/or indirect myocardial injury/stress, as assessed by cardiac biomarkers such as troponin I and brain-type natriuretic peptide, has emerged as both a prominent and prognostic feature in COVID-19.

Importantly, recent studies have shown that between 11% and 25% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin had QTc values rise above the critical 500 ms threshold."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7198426/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/l...n image to zoom&p=PMC3&id=7198426_gr1_lrg.jpg

The "racialists" here are going to be soooooooooo disappointed that they can't blame racism and/or poverty/oppression.

 

[SpeareChucker]

The "racialists" here are going to be soooooooooo disappointed that they can't blame racism and/or poverty/oppression.

My "not a word" seems to be catching on.

 

[bellisarius]

It's a good word for them. It eats away at their brains the way Trump does.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Brains?

What is this brains that you speak of?

These people are governed and controlled by emotion...

 

[bellisarius]

Brains?

What is this brains that you speak of?

These people are governed and controlled by emotion...

cepi ergo sum

 

[SpeareChucker]

Is that a mashup involving CEPI and Descartes?

 

[bellisarius]

Is that a mashup involving CEPI and Descartes?

One smart injun we got here.

 

[SpeareChucker]

WHERE???



Point him out and I'll kick his ass!

 

[sygn]

The "racialists" here are going to be soooooooooo disappointed that they can't blame racism and/or poverty/oppression.

Exactly.
I'm actually in their camp irl.Because in Australia and NZ, racism and xenophobia are still alive in smaller towns. Disheartingly so.

1. But only at the level of 1:1 direct interactions: certain 'looks' making you feel small, supervisors micromanaging them or trying to get them fired etc.
And those attitudes need to be addressed.

2. Importantly, the legislation protects minorities, even gives natives some advantage affirmative action. Resources (healthcare, education) are NOT allocated according to race.

By bullshitting things about 2, Dems. are alienating people who would gladly join them to address 1.

 

[Conager]

What nonsense. Air crews do not have these infection and mortality rates despite being in close contact with international travelers early on when no one was taking precautions, often for hours at a time.

The blacks dying of this disease whether it is in New York City or the UK are often beyond retirement years. They didn't die from this from being Ralph Kramden. Blacks are dying of this because they already suffer disproportionately from the factors that pretty much must be present for this virus to kill you, diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure, arterial sclerosis, heart disease. <---pick any two.

You can attribute that to culture, diet, genetics, or poverty as you like but the facts are what they are.

That and Brits are obviously using universal health care to genocide blacks for all the above reasons, because the left loves them some correlation.

It isn't just this particular respiratory virus taking a toll on blacks, the elderly, and elderly blacks. Especially in high density, government subsidized nursing homes. While worldwide gov't spokesmodels and the rapt media was fomenting panic in all of the population what they should have been doing was focusing all of their efforts on actually isolating, not pretend isolating people who are actually vulnerable to this disease. It's been known for at least a month.

Pretend isolating healthy people is ridiculously stupid.

NYC is only now requiring nursing home workers be tested.

Just exactly like the influenza vaccine if you do not work with or interact with vulnerable people you don't need to be tested and you don't need to be isolated.

I do and there's not a chance in hell I'm going to be able to get tested anytime soon. My brother's a cop they recently came up with the money and the test kits to test all cops and fireman but he's got to wait until they've tested all of the fireman first before they're going to test the cops.

I sleeting everyone was stupid especially when we didn't really I sleep. Trying to test everyone is equally stupid. We know where the problems are and we are ignoring that.

Obesity is the number one is factor but nobody's talking about that because that would be insensitive.

Nobody was warning blacks early on about their unique vulnerability because of course that would make it racial. In my region Native Americans are the largest pool of vulnerable persons. For some reason Hispanics who share a similar genetic heritage and similar health and diet problems do not seem to be as vulnerable. No one knows why. I have a habit of working impoverished areas so I work with all of the above. I can tell you that in the black part of town they aren't isolated. Part of that is cultural.. we've a long history of telling black people what to do and they're not really that enthused about being told what to do.