Birthright Citizenship Challenge

[dmallord]

Foreign born nationals who aren't here legally aren't "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" (to use the words of the 14th Amendment).

You want to argue that they are merely because they have to obey the law, but that's not what was decided. ALLEGIANCE is what's being used as the test for birthright citizenship and foreign nations here illegally have NO allegiance to the US regardless if they can be punished under our justice system.

Basically, you have your head up your ass and think you're clever because you brought a flashlight.

The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” has been debated, but the Court made it plain: jurisdiction refers to legal authority—not allegiance. If someone can be arrested, tried, and punished under U.S. law, they are subject to U.S. jurisdiction. That includes undocumented immigrants. They can be deported, detained, and prosecuted under U.S. law—so they are indeed under U.S. jurisdiction.

That's the Supreme Court version, and it's far different from what you are misinterpreting with your flashlight while your head is up your ass in the dark, as usual.