Bernie!

I think it's just a matter of time before Hillary pays big bucks to label him a radical with DANGEROUS POLICY IDEAS!! (they won't say why exactly of course but they will repeat it till it sinks in.) and creams him.
 
I'm casting my first ever primary vote for Bernie. I hope he wins!

I might vote for him too. He has a cadre of dedicated followers and that might be enough for him to win enough primaries to edge out Silly Hilly. However, in the general election, he won't have enough supporters to have a chance of winning. If he runs in Nov. 2016, Bernie will break George McGovern's record for landslide losses. :eek:
 
I might vote for him too. He has a cadre of dedicated followers and that might be enough for him to win enough primaries to edge out Silly Hilly. However, in the general election, he won't have enough supporters to have a chance of winning. If he runs in Nov. 2016, Bernie will break George McGovern's record for landslide losses. :eek:

Against who?? :confused::D
 
McGovern was swamped by the incumbent Nixon in 1972. I don't know yet who the GOP candidate will be in 2016.

Yea I know, and look how that turned out.:rolleyes:

If you don't know who the GOP candidate will be in 2016 then how do you know it will be such a landslide?

You have several in your field Bernie could fuckin' CRUSH. ;)
 
Yea I know, and look how that turned out.:rolleyes:

If you don't know who the GOP candidate will be in 2016 then how do you know it will be such a landslide?

You have several in your field Bernie could fuckin' CRUSH. ;)

Nobody knows who the GOP candidate will be. I am just offering an opinion, as you just did.
 
You can reasonably narrow it down however. Some of them either have no realistic chance or are just screwing around. We all know Trump is just getting free publicity. If he gets nominated he'll be the first person to freak out. I don't even think he wants the job. To quote Lex Luthor "Do you have any idea how much power he'd have to give up if he became president?"

Ben Carson has no chance in hell either and if he did get that far Bernie would annihilate him. Lets be honest, the only parts of the country where his message carries well are the same place aren't gonna vote for him.

Realistically we're talking about Jeb or Perry. I wish Rand was on the list but like his father his chances of being president are just slightly higher than mine.
 
Bernie Sanders Gaining on Clinton on New Hampshire: CNN/WMUR Poll


Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has made significant gains on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, according to the latest CNN/WMUR poll.

Clinton leads Sanders 43 percent to 35 percent, according to the poll. But just two months ago, Clinton led the poll 51 percent to Sanders' 13 percent. But that poll also included Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who says she will not run. Warren pulled in 20 percent support in that poll.

Run, Bernie, Run!
 
Realistically we're talking about Jeb or Perry. I wish Rand was on the list but like his father his chances of being president are just slightly higher than mine.

He's like the RW Bernie.....love what you're saying! Buuuut it would actually tip the boat and force change and well...we would rather just sit around giving each other warm fuzzies and waste as much time as possible trying to pee on the other teams shoes. So were going to go for another clinton/bush and hope for something other than 8 more years of the same ol' fuckin' shit we can't stop bitching about!

Personally I don't think morale has improved enough and we are getting a clinton or bush.
 
You can reasonably narrow it down however. Some of them either have no realistic chance or are just screwing around. We all know Trump is just getting free publicity. If he gets nominated he'll be the first person to freak out. I don't even think he wants the job. To quote Lex Luthor "Do you have any idea how much power he'd have to give up if he became president?"

Ben Carson has no chance in hell either and if he did get that far Bernie would annihilate him. Lets be honest, the only parts of the country where his message carries well are the same place aren't gonna vote for him.

Realistically we're talking about Jeb or Perry. I wish Rand was on the list but like his father his chances of being president are just slightly higher than mine.

Jeb, yes, but I don't think Perry has much chance. Here are some recent poll numbers: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep..._republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

I think Walker is a very strong contender, since he is ranked second and hasn't even officially announced yet.
 
Most likely. We know we're getting a Clinton in the race. Obama is/was the exception that proves the rule. In reality nobody comes out of no where and wins their first bid for President and historically Senators don't win either. I believe 2008 was like the first time forty odd years that had happened. The rest were all governors and if not famous at least well known. Clinton is really the only viable candidate the Left has if we're being honest and looking at reality.

As for the RW right now it doesn't look like they are planning to run a "real" campaign. It's look like they do want at least four more years of being the party with no plan and a result they're just funnin. A lot of those men have no business running. Bobby Jindal is another candidate who's chances are higher than mine but not by enough to matter.
 
Jeb, yes, but I don't think Perry has much chance. Here are some recent poll numbers: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep..._republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

I think Walker is a very strong contender, since he is ranked second and hasn't even officially announced yet.

Honestly I think as long as Jeb manages not to eat a live baby he can safely just kind of cruise to a victory. His real goal (assuming he wants to be president) is to come out of this as unscathed as he can manage. Romney would have beatn Obama soundly if he had been a little quieter during the primaries.

Polling this far out is pretty close to pointless and really serves to real purposes. One is just for funsies and the other is to establish trends but it's not going to tell you much that's useful. I figure after the smoke clears on the first or second debate we'll see pretty much everybody lower than say Rand Paul drops. The other reason the polls are in a lot of ways useless is they look at the nation as a whole instead of 50 states. I don't give a shit what the national numbers look like I'm not expecting to see Carson carry the vote in say any state that took down a certain flag in the past seven days.
 
I love a good anihilation.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07...tt-walker-record-setting-wisconsin-rally.html

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders spoke before the largest crowd drawn by any candidate in 2016 and used his platform to completely annihilate Republican Gov. Scott Walker in his own backyard.

Sanders announced at the beginning of his speech that they drew the most people to a rally of any candidate this year. Sanders responded to Wisconsin Republicans who called him an extremist, “Let me just say a few words to my friends in the Republican Party about extremism. When you deny the right of workers to come together in collective bargaining that’s extremism. When you tell a woman that she can not control her own body, that’s extremism. When you think a woman is a child and can’t purchase a contraceptive, that is extremism. When you give tax breaks to billionaires and refuse to raise the minimum wage, that’s extremism.”
 
Meanwhile CuntClinton is gonna kill Gramps B!

Has Clinton Dispatched Oppo Researchers to UVM's Sanders Archive?

Librarians at the University of Vermont's special collections say interest is spiking in the "Bernard Sanders papers" — 30 boxes of meticulously organized material documenting Sanders' eight years as mayor of Burlington.

That should come as no surprise, given the independent senator's rapid rise in the polls in New Hampshire and Iowa, which hold the nation's first presidential nominating contests.

Media outlets, such as the Guardian, have drilled deep into the archives and unearthed tasty tidbits — but they're not the only ones interested in getting to know the senator.

Last Thursday, two casually dressed twentysomethings were spotted combing through the Sanders files and decades-old Vermont newspapers. As they were on their way out the door at the end of the day, Seven Days asked what they were doing.

"No comment," said one of the young men, dressed in a T-shirt and flannel. "No comment."

As they emerged into the sunlight outside Bailey/Howe Library, Seven Days pressed again: "Come on! We're all doing the same thing."

"No, we're not," Flannel Man shot back.

"We're just looking," said the other one, dressed in a white shirt with black stripes.

"Looking at what?"

"Old newspapers," Stripy said. "Vermont history."

So who were these mysterious characters? Opposition researchers working for one of Sanders' rivals? Earlier that day a super PAC supporting former Maryland governor Martin O'Malley launched the first negative ad of the race targeting Sanders.

Asked if Team O'Malley had dispatched Flannel Man and Stripy to Burlington, campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said, "We have not, and they are not affiliated with our campaign."

But wait! Here's a clue: That T-shirt Flannel Man was wearing? It read, "New Hampshire for Jeanne Shaheen."

Earlier this year, Hillary Clinton absorbed much of Shaheen's political operation to run her Granite State campaign: state director Mike Vlacich, senior political aide Kari Thurman and spokesman Harrell Kirstein.

Asked if Flannel Man and Stripy belonged to Team Clinton, Kirstein did not respond.

Welcome to Burlington, Hillary. Next time, tell your people to leave their Shaheen shirts at home.

Updated July 2, 2015, at 10:12 a.m.: The Clinton camp now says it wasn't involved. In an email to Seven Days, Kirstein writes, "It wasn't us."

This story originally appeared in the Fair Game column, Bye Line, on July 1, 2015.
 
BERNIE!

Bernie Sanders draws nearly 10,000 supporters in Wisconsin

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/bernie-sanders-crowds-wisconsin-2016/

"Tonight we have made a little bit of history," he said. "You may know that some 25 candidates are running for president of the United States, but tonight we have more people at a meeting for a candidate for president of the United States than any other candidate has."

Sanders delivered what amounted to his standard stump speech -- a liberal message that pledges to fight for universal health care, break up the biggest banks in the United States and redistribute wealth from the richest Americans to the middle class and poor.

"What I would like to ask of you: Please think big, not small," Sanders said, referring to the audience as his "brothers and sisters."

Calling for a "political revolution," Sanders added, "there is nothing that we cannot accomplish."
 
It’s Official: Team Hillary Says They Are “Worried” About Bernie Sanders And His Surging Campaign…

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Via The Hill:

Hillary Clinton’s campaign is “worried” about Bernie Sanders, who a top Clinton aide described as a “serious force” in the 20116 battle.

“We are worried about him, sure. He will be a serious force for the campaign and I don’t think that will diminish,” Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri said Monday in an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“It’s to be expected that Sanders would do well in a Democratic primary and he’s going to do well in Iowa in the Democratic caucus.”
Sanders, an Independent senator from Vermont, has emerged as Clinton’s main foil in the Democratic primary.
 
GOP Officials Publicly Denounce Bernie Sanders’ Obamacare Expansion, Quietly Request Funding

he conventional wisdom on Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont is that he’s a charming if impractical dreamer, a pie-in-the-sky socialist who’s good at inspiring young people and aging hippies, but hopeless at the knife fighting that real-life politics requires.

Despite the inherent limitations of a self-described democratic socialist who eschews the norms of Beltway fundraising, the Democratic presidential candidate from Vermont has won legislative victory after victory on an issue that has been dear to him since his days as Burlington’s mayor.

That issue is the simultaneously benign and revolutionary expansion of federally qualified community health clinics.

Over the years, Sanders has tucked away funding for health centers in appropriation bills signed by George W. Bush, into Barack Obama’s stimulus program, and through the earmarking process. But his biggest achievement came in 2010 through the Affordable Care Act. In a series of high-stakes legislative maneuvers, Sanders struck a deal to include $11 billion for health clinics in the law.

The result has made an indelible mark on American health care, extending the number of people served by clinics from 18 million before the ACA to an expected 28 million next year.

Why didn't we hear about this, because if he mentioned it in the press, the RW Pundents would have gone apeshit!
 
If Bernie ends up being the nominee or perhaps President will it be permissible to refer to him as a "socialist?" I ask, in case he scrubs that from his bio. Will we have to avoid reactionary "name calling?"
 
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