BDSM for introverts?

Bramblethorn

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(vent/whine ahead)

I'm a fairly reserved sort of person IRL. It's not that I dislike people - I like everybody unless they work to change that - but processing social interaction is hard work and it drains my batteries pretty quickly, especially with strangers. At a party, I'm the one out in the garden, maybe talking quietly to a good friend, maybe just being alone and clearing my head before I go back inside. Intimate relationships: usually with people I've known as friends for YEARS beforehand.

Usually that's fine; it's my thing and it works for me. But sometimes BDSM discussion leaves me feeling like I need to be a massive extrovert to do this stuff properly. My BDSM friends talk about stuff they learned at play parties, workshops, etc... and I find it really hard to see myself doing anything that involves baring myself to that extent (literally or otherwise) in front of strangers.

So the stuff I do is mostly learned from books, or the net, or self-taught. But it's not the same as learning the ropes in person from somebody who knows their stuff, and I end up feeling like I'm Not Doing It Right. I see people talking about "the kink community" and I'm not sure whether I'm part of that community or even if I want to be. (And no disrespect intended to those who are; it just isn't one of the ways that I feel like connecting with strangers.)

Stupid thing is, I know exactly what I'd say to somebody else who came to me with those insecurities: it's not a competition, as long as you and your partner are having fun and you understand the safety angles, etc etc. But sometimes it's hard to listen to that, especially after meeting my girlfriend's partner, who's as extroverted as I am introverted. (Within about five minutes of our first meeting, she'd asked if I was okay with her showing off the bruises she'd acquired on her breasts at a recent kink event. Edit: should clarify that she's lovely, it's just me feeling insecure about the contrast.)

Anybody else get these feelings sometimes?
 
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(vent/whine ahead)

I'm a fairly reserved sort of person IRL. It's not that I dislike people - I like everybody unless they work to change that - but processing social interaction is hard work and it drains my batteries pretty quickly, especially with strangers. At a party, I'm the one out in the garden, maybe talking quietly to a good friend, maybe just being alone and clearing my head before I go back inside. Intimate relationships: usually with people I've known as friends for YEARS beforehand.

Usually that's fine; it's my thing and it works for me. But sometimes BDSM discussion leaves me feeling like I need to be a massive extrovert to do this stuff properly. My BDSM friends talk about stuff they learned at play parties, workshops, etc... and I find it really hard to see myself doing anything that involves baring myself to that extent (literally or otherwise) in front of strangers.

So the stuff I do is mostly learned from books, or the net, or self-taught. But it's not the same as learning the ropes in person from somebody who knows their stuff, and I end up feeling like I'm Not Doing It Right. I see people talking about "the kink community" and I'm not sure whether I'm part of that community or even if I want to be. (And no disrespect intended to those who are; it just isn't one of the ways that I feel like connecting with strangers.)

Stupid thing is, I know exactly what I'd say to somebody else who came to me with those insecurities: it's not a competition, as long as you and your partner are having fun and you understand the safety angles, etc etc. But sometimes it's hard to listen to that, especially after meeting my girlfriend's partner, who's as extroverted as I am introverted. (Within about five minutes of our first meeting, she'd asked if I was okay with her showing off the bruises she'd acquired on her breasts at a recent kink event.)

Anybody else get these feelings sometimes?

That's pretty much my life with MOST communities I would have the potential to participate in. I think it's just one of the downsides to introversion.
 
That's pretty much my life with MOST communities I would have the potential to participate in. I think it's just one of the downsides to introversion.

Heh, yeah, there is that. But for me it's more so with BDSM than with other stuff, because it's more personal.
 
I'm an INFJ, emphasis on I. ;) I do best in groups of 3 - 5 (max). More than that starts to make it hard for me to keep track and creates a huge energy sink. If I go to something big, like full of noise and people and questions/ social stuff? I'll take twice as long doing something quiet and alone to recover.

The common advice thing is "OMG you HAVE to do a munch! They are awesome and you meet all these people and OMG awesome!" If I *had* to be extroverted and social and attend stuff and meet people to be kinky... I'm just as soon give up being kinky, thanks. LOL

I'm also not the sort of person who puts their private sexuality out there, casually... which is kinda weird in BDSM circles, and makes for a lot of amusing (IMO, at least) conversations.

So - what are you into?
Sorry, I don't discuss that with people I've just met.
Oh. But how will I know if we both like the same stuff?
Get to know me, as a person; the kinky stuff will sort itself out.
Oh... NEXT!

LOL

But on the flip side, I think in some ways being me makes this stuff easier. Because it isn't a competition. And I don't have to do things the "normal" way. I've actually met some very interesting people who aren't into big crowds and scenes, either, that I'd otherwise might have missed meeting [if I was following the go to munches, the scene is the way to go].
 
Yeah, zero interest in talking about my sex life with strangers IRL. Why would I ever need to? What would that potentially do for me? I'm not an exhibitionist, I don't get a high from being around people that... have sex the way I do? (Not that any of them actually do anyways, so there's that.) What is there to talk about and do that I can't get in private with my partner, or online in a venue like this?

It may be my rebellious streak, but... fuck munches, play parties, and demos. I have no use for them.
 
So - what are you into?
Sorry, I don't discuss that with people I've just met.
Oh. But how will I know if we both like the same stuff?
Get to know me, as a person; the kinky stuff will sort itself out.
Oh... NEXT!

This is me. I tried to do the munch-party-community thing, I tried very hard. Unfortunately I just found it impossible for me to relate to people who were interested in my sexuality before being interested in me as a person.

I don't feel like I'm weird or missing out on anything, though. At least not anymore.
 
I can totally relate.
While most people seem to think of me as extraverted, social interaction is something that costs energy even when I think it's fun/interesting and rewarding in other ways.
Adding a whole new social circle just because I'm interested in a new topic or want to learn something new is just not my thing.
 
Not necessarily into BDSM or anything, but I just wanted to say how much I identified with your views on social interaction. It's so ... tiring. :(
 
I can certainly relate to the limitations of introversion, if in a somewhat backward manner from what's under discussion I would like to attend BDSM related classes (if there are such a thing), go to demos, see dungeon play, etc..

My SO and I are exploring D/s. In our case means lots of reading and a little play. While he is interested, my kink needs seem stronger than his. Immersion into a social environment with visuals and conversation would probably speed along our progress.

Unfortunately, the thought of having to get out and wade through all the people just makes me tired. :( As I'm the more extroverted partner this poses a problem....

Oh, well. I'm sure I'll eventually talk myself into investigating social opportunities. At the moment I'm feeling more reclusive than usual. At least I have the advantage of a large city to work with!
 
I read a book a while ago that helped me feel less weird for being introverted. Every time I point out to someone I'm actually an introvert, the reaction is shock because I'm "on" when I need to be. (The thing is, most people don't understand how much energy it takes.)

Anyway, in case anyone is interested -

Quiet
 
I'm an introvert who can fake it. And I'm a visual hands-on demo oriented learner - so for me, the whole "scene" of the scene was and is a necessary part of my education. But that's it - I go, meet, shake hands, learn stuff. Reading stuff and looking at charts? Eh, not so much. It's a supplement, but I need to see stepped out tutorials.

It's exhausting though. And the pervasive ongoing relentless sexism in the public scene has made me basically keep my skill sets to my damn self for years now. I've played all the games, sparred all the little matches, been harassed and prodded every possible way and I'm over it. Some people "get it" and have the social skills needed to navigate a conversation with someone who has boobs. If someone does NOT have these requisite social skills, I don't understand how they're supposed to do nuanced and potentially dangerous SM interactions and that's considered a safe community.

I'm not wigged out by playing in public because I understand how that energy feeds the experience sometimes, but it's also not that interesting either - growing up in NYC I have a "private in public" sense of buffered personal space even with people all around.

I'm just really critical of the way that skill sets become cults of personality for more extroverted and socially minded SM people, I've seen it up close and it's gross.
 
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I'm just really critical of the way that skill sets become cults of personality for more extroverted and socially minded SM people, I've seen it up close and it's gross.

You and me both. Glad to see your comment.

There are just sometimes I do not mind being clustered into the same rabbit hole but it is somewhat frustrating when you see just how deep it goes and the others whom occupy it.
 
Every time I point out to someone I'm actually an introvert, the reaction is shock because I'm "on" when I need to be. (The thing is, most people don't understand how much energy it takes.)

This EXACTLY! I can be the life of the party for an hour or two. The next day I’m down for the count, completely wiped out and and cranky to boot. Its a huge energy drain. :(

I'm just really critical of the way that skill sets become cults of personality for more extroverted and socially minded SM people, I've seen it up close and it's gross.

A pervasive problem in any small, special interest group. It certainly doesn’t make wading into the fray any more appealing....
 
I read a book a while ago that helped me feel less weird for being introverted. Every time I point out to someone I'm actually an introvert, the reaction is shock because I'm "on" when I need to be. (The thing is, most people don't understand how much energy it takes.)

Yes, this. I've been toying with an analogy: imagine if every time you wanted to interact with another person - speak a few words, send an email, whatever - you had to drop to the floor and do a few push-ups. Just the one for interacting with good friends, two for acquaintances, three for strangers.

For me, every interaction is a problem that I need to evaluate before I respond. I'm actually very good at solving problems, and I like a mental workout, but it gets so tiring and after a long day interacting with people at work, and maintenance on a long-distance poly relationship... sometimes I just don't wanna.
 
Yes, this. I've been toying with an analogy: imagine if every time you wanted to interact with another person - speak a few words, send an email, whatever - you had to drop to the floor and do a few push-ups.

This is kind of brilliant.
 
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