BDS: humanitarian or anti-semitism dressed up as justice warrior?

[hashtag45]

Israeli justice minister claims BDS wants to ‘wipe the Jewish nation off the face of the Earth’
https://www.rt.com/news/364763-israeli-jewish-minister-bds/

"Shaked warned “all those agents of ignorance and hatred” against testing Israel's strength and determination to defend the Jewish state, according to the Jerusalem Post.

The BDS movement is a global campaign, first launched in Palestine in 2005, to apply political and economic pressure to end Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories.

Shaked, however, insisted that the campaign has “no interest in promoting human rights, but in wiping the Jewish nation off the face of the Earth.”

She also referred to the movement as anti-Semitism dressed up as a platform for freedom and justice.
“It's deeply rooted in classical anti-Semitism that has spread all over Europe throughout the past few hundred years,” she said."

 

[Disgustipated]

BobDownSouth

 

[hashtag45]

He will be here any minute now, to call me a stinky paki or kyke for having the audacity to remind him of those who proved themselves to be more competent than him at work.

 

[underguy1]

There's your islamophobia again.

Dickhead.

 

[hashtag45]

What a shocker! Underguy. So pavlovian.
Well, you're antisemitic, I'm islamophobic.
Yin and yang.


On a more serious note:
Did I say that I fully agree with the Israeli prime minister? Or, if you read through the article, do you find it to be anything But neutral? It's YOU who's paranoid and who's putting words in people's mouth.

Of course I don't agree with Israeli authorities and politicians re their occupation of palestinian territories. It's bloody fascism and encroachement on human rights. And neither do many israeli laypeople, if you care to give your own antisemitism a break and browse their alternative media websites.

On the other hand, antisemitism (against Israelis but also against those who live in Europe) has risen to unprecedent levels in the last years in Europe.
And do you seriously think that those authorities or organizations who sing the kumbaya about muslims while encouraging the wars in the Middle East are really genuine?

I don't know much about BDS to be able to comment, but the article seemed like a good starting point for a constructive debate around such modern day contradictions.
And it's not about these two minorities (jews and muslims). Not entirely related but still in a similar line, one sees these clashes in cultures (often used by politicians to Their advantage). more and more with globalization.

But all I got -predictably so- was "You're an islamophobe. Dickhead."

 

[underguy1]

What a shocker! Underguy. So pavlovian.
Well, you're antisemitic, I'm islamophobic.
Yin and yang.


On a more serious note:
Did I say that I fully agree with the Israeli prime minister? Or, if you read through the article, do you find it to be anything But neutral? It's YOU who's paranoid and who's putting words in people's mouth.

Of course I don't agree with Israeli authorities and politicians re their occupation of palestinian territories. It's bloody fascism and encroachement on human rights. And neither do many israeli laypeople, if you care to give your own antisemitism a break and browse their alternative media websites.

On the other hand, antisemitism (against Israelis but also against those who live in Europe) has risen to unprecedent levels in the last years in Europe.
And do you seriously think that those authorities or organizations who sing the kumbaya about muslims while encouraging the wars in the Middle East are really genuine?

I don't know much about BDS to e able to comment, but the article seemed like a good startimg point for a constructive debate around such contradictions.
But all I got -predictanly so- was "You're an islamophobe. Dickhead."

Don't you dare call me antisemitic you moronic, needy, islamophobic, cum stain.

If you don't know enough about BDS to comment, don't comment, arsewipe.

 

[hashtag45]

Don't you dare call me antisemitic you moronic, needy islamophobic .

If you don't know enough about BDS to comment, don't comment, arsewipe.

Wow!
When was the last time you got laid?

So you call me islamophobic, but you don't give me the right to respond in kind and call you antisemitic?

 

[Christobal]

Call me uniformed. I have no idea what BDS is.

 

[underguy1]

You utter cretin.

Little wonder they stalk you.

 

[underguy1]

Call me uniformed. I have no idea what BDS is.

There's a surprise.

 

[Christobal]

There's a surprise.

Well that was snotty reply. I said I don't know what it is. Don't bother telling me jackass.

 

[underguy1]

Well that was snotty reply. I said I don't know what it is. Don't bother telling me jackass.

Not very observant are you, dip shit?

Support BDS.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against the occupation of Palestine.

 

[Christobal]

Not very observant are you, dip shit?

Support BDS.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against the occupation of Palestine.

Hey you sure know the way to win me over to your cause. This dip shit is not going to bother to find out what it is.

 

[hashtag45]

Not very observant are you, dip shit?

Support BDS.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against the occupation of Palestine.

You're acting like a spoiled child.
The way you're behaving, you'll increase islamophobic attitudes, because some people might -wrongfully- assume that most muslims are just as radicalised against americans and jews, and angry as you are. Which ain't true.

 

[hashtag45]

Call me uniformed. I have no idea what BDS is.

It's called the "Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement". It's a global campaign against Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories.
From their website:

https://bdsmovement.net/what-is-bds

"Ongoing injustice
For nearly seventy years, Israel has denied Palestinians their fundamental rights and has refused to comply with international law.

Israel maintains a regime of of settler colonialism, apartheid and occupation over the Palestinian people. This is only possible because of international support. Governments fail to hold Israel to account, while corporations and institutions across the world help Israel to oppress Palestinians.

Because those in power refuse to act to stop this injustice, Palestinian civil society has called for a global citizens’ response of solidarity with the Palestinian struggle for freedom, justice and equality."

 

[hashtag45]

Personally, I totally agree with their platform, at least the way it was when it started. Palestinians Are discriminated against by Israeli authorities, and what they've been doing (taking away their homes and territories) is bloody outrageous.


But what the Israeli minister is saying is that the organization has been subverted lately by certain interest groups that have an entirely different agenda.

I don't know if the Israeli justice minister's statement
- was driven by pure islamophobia (she's well known for her radical attitudes in this regard)
- or if there's a kernel of truth in it. (It wouldn't be the first time that deep rooted hatred between two minority groups has been manipulated and used for other purposes).


And since this is just a porn board and debating such hot topics on a porn board won't harm any of the two minorities, I thought "Why not? This could make for an interesting discussion".

 

[underguy1]

Personally, I totally agree with their platform, at least the way it was when it started. Palestinians Are discriminated against by Israeli authorities, and what they've been doing (taking away their homes and territories) is bloody outrageous.


But what the Israeli minister is saying is that the organization has been subverted lately by certain interest groups that have an entirely different agenda.

I don't know if the Israeli justice minister's statement
- was driven by pure islamophobia (she's well known for her radical attitudes in this regard)
- or if there's a kernel of truth in it. (It wouldn't be the first time that deep rooted hatred between two minority groups has been manipulated and used for other purposes).


And since this is just a porn board and debating such hot topics on a porn board won't harm any of the two minorities, I thought "Why not? This could make for an interesting discussion".

You're a serial islamophobe. Why don't you fuck off and die?

 

[Saint Peter]

Good fences make good neighbors.

My definition of good neighbor would change if the fucker put his fence up in the middle of my yard.

 

[underguy1]

Hey you sure know the way to win me over to your cause. This dip shit is not going to bother to find out what it is.

Oh really? Like you put any effort into it you airhead.

You clearly have the brains of a dead ant.


Support BDS.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against the occupation of Palestine.

Support BDS.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against the occupation of Palestine.

 

[hashtag45]

You're a serial islamophobe. Why don't you fuck off and die?

I have a better solution for your problems:
Just send me to send me to the gas chamber

 

[Saint Peter]

That would be a waste of perfectly good gas.

 

[hashtag45]

That would be a waste of perfectly good gas.

He's ridiculous with his misinterpretations and his temper tamtrums lol

 

[hashtag45]

UNDERGUY :

There are two issues here:


1.I understand that the topic must be quite traumatising to those palestinians who had their homes and land take. away, or those who experienced atrocities at the hand of the Israeli govt. and soldiers

And as I said several times, (are you daft? How many times do I have to repeat myself?) I'm on the same page as you: in that I believe that what happened to palestinians is a severe human rights violation.

And if I brought up this issue in another setting, it would have been abusive, to say the least.



2.But this is a different setting, and political threads should be about controversial issues, in order for them to lead to good debates.
And your double standards are trying to piss me off.

-- So you're ok with me when I agree with you or keep saying that imo american authorities committed genocide in the Middle East.
-- But if I bring a controversial topic for discussion re the way in which Elite are sometimes subvering movenents, even if I don't challenge the legitimacy of paiestiniaans' grievances.,
You go bonkers and accuse me of all sorts of nasties?

NONE of the american posters reacted in this manner when both of us said pretty bad things about their politicians, even when we mentioned the word genocide in the Middle East.



So fuck off.

 

[Liar]

In what way is "the Elite" (and what is that anyway?) subverting this Israel critic movement? The article you linked don't seem to mention anything of the kind, just quoting a racist and extremist Israeli politician.

 

[hashtag45]

I really don't have patience for any GB progressive shenanigans.

Go read the article again, and read my previous comments if you want to engage me in a discussion.