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dr_mabeuse

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In terms of quality of top stories, is Literotica the Best Free Erotic Story Site on the entire Internet? (in terms of getting stories up quickly, in terms of voter features, bells and whistles, &c...mnyeh) (We still love you, Laurel & Manu, though)

From what I've seen and heard, it is. And if not, then who is? I'd like to know.
 
As far as I know, it has many more stories than any other site, so statistics are on our side... Some of them are bound to be good! :D

I would love to be able to weed out the dross that evidently was accepted during the earlier days of lit. Badly written, clueless, and gives the lie to Lit's claims of quality.
 
I've been waiting for a story to post for...six days.

So I'm irritated right now.

I think if you refresh your members page for the thousandth time to see if it's posted, it should damned well be posted.
 
Don't have the foggiest. But I love that phrase.

I do like the PC and email feedback features.
 
Recidiva said:
I've been waiting for a story to post for...six days.

So I'm irritated right now.

I think if you refresh your members page for the thousandth time to see if it's posted, it should damned well be posted.

I know. It's terrible. I've been here for years and have always been philosophical about it until the one episode where things got out of hand and I really really needed that chapter to be published or I faced something like mental collapse and suddenly I wasn't philosophical anymore. I mean, I understood that the annual Arbor Day Story Contest was going on and that people were anxious to find out who'd written the most popular ass-fucked-while-planting-a-tree story, but I'd sweated blood writing my chapter for part of a serialized novel and I was losing readers by the day and I was psychotic about it and just about ready to be hospitalized with anxiety.

Finally after a week I just broke down and PM'd Laurel and begged her for help and went and published it over at StoriesOnLine.com where they get them up in 24 hours. It went up at Lit the next day.

The point is, though, that if we're the best, then we have the best authors, the best poets, the best critics, the best jerks and trolls too. I think that's great.

I'm sorry. I'm getting very snobbish lately, very concerned with quality, very elitish. I want to bring back a king.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I know. It's terrible. I've been here for years and have always been philosophical about it until the one episode where things got out of hand and I really really needed that chapter to be published or I faced something like mental collapse and suddenly I wasn't philosophical anymore. I mean, I understood that the annual Arbor Day Story Contest was going on and that people were anxious to find out who'd written the most popular ass-fucked-while-planting-a-tree story, but I'd sweated blood writing my chapter for part of a serialized novel and I was losing readers by the day and I was psychotic about it and just about ready to be hospitalized with anxiety.

Finally after a week I just broke down and PM'd Laurel and begged her for help and went and published it over at StoriesOnLine.com where they get them up in 24 hours. It went up at Lit the next day.

The point is, though, that if we're the best, then we have the best authors, the best poets, the best critics, the best jerks and trolls too. I think that's great.

I'm sorry. I'm getting very snobbish lately, very concerned with quality, very elitish. I want to bring back a king.

I understand, and this is the second time I've heard of StoriesOnLine.com in a week, and I'm writing down the address...

I find that the instant gratification probably is a more helpful payback than waiting for a week and getting a trickle of responses anyway.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I'm sorry. I'm getting very snobbish lately, very concerned with quality, very elitish.

Just what I need. I invite you, and others if have the interest and time, to critique my story in the SDC when it comes up in early August. No pressure if you don't make it. I want to make it better and improve as a writer. One of the great thing about Lit is the community and support. I suppose the romance writer's site is similarly supportive, but I'm not in that genre yet.

eta: who to if :)
 
Recidiva said:
I understand, and this is the second time I've heard of StoriesOnLine.com in a week, and I'm writing down the address...

I find that the instant gratification probably is a more helpful payback than waiting for a week and getting a trickle of responses anyway.

I posted a few stories there and know lots of other here do as well. But to tell you the truth I haven't checked back in several months. I come here. I like it better.
 
jomar said:
I posted a few stories there and know lots of other here do as well. But to tell you the truth I haven't checked back in several months. I come here. I like it better.

As do I. SOL isn't worth my time. Sure, the posting time is quick, but I don't like the idea of being associated with a site that implicitly endorses pedophilia.
 
jomar said:
Just what I need. I invite you, and others if have the interest and time, to critique my story in the SDC when it comes up in early August. No pressure if you don't make it. I want to make it better and improve as a writer. One of the great thing about Lit is the community and support. I suppose the romance writer's site is similarly supportive, but I'm not in that genre yet.

eta: who to if :)

I haven't been as active over there as usual but I'll be there for you. I'm a huge booster of the SDC. They have some truly excellent critics over there - as good or better than what you get in most college creative writing classes - and the service is woefully underutilized.

Just remind me when your story goes up.
 
Recidiva said:
I understand, and this is the second time I've heard of StoriesOnLine.com in a week, and I'm writing down the address...

I find that the instant gratification probably is a more helpful payback than waiting for a week and getting a trickle of responses anyway.

I don't bother with SOL after my initial experience and I'm taking my stories down. The story quality overall is terrible, and popularity seems to be based on (1) story length - they seem to like them measured out by the linear foot - and (2) predictability and number of cliches. I get the feeling it's where our grandfathers go for their porn.

Really, it seems to be an "Anyone can be a writer!" site, and whatever you publish will rapidly get lost in the immense volume of medicority and sink without a trace.

It's the only time I've ever received a piece of feedback complementing me on a "neat story!"

There's a BDSM site I've posted to that had a wonderful reader rating system with weighted averages and trancated means and auto-trolling deletion and some amazingly sophisticated statistical analysis they applied to scoring. It made Lit's 1-5 system seem as primitive as thumbs up or thumbs down, but still, after all that, you're applying all this whiz-bang math to like 4-5 votes so it hardly pays. And in the end it was still a BDSM site and they weren't really very interested in literary values.
 
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slyc_willie said:
As do I. SOL isn't worth my time. Sure, the posting time is quick, but I don't like the idea of being associated with a site that implicitly endorses pedophilia.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, and that's why I pulled all my stuff from SOL.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I mean, I understood that the annual Arbor Day Story Contest was going on and that people were anxious to find out who'd written the most popular ass-fucked-while-planting-a-tree story, but I'd sweated blood writing my chapter for part of a serialized novel and I was losing readers by the day and I was psychotic about it and just about ready to be hospitalized with anxiety.Finally after a week I just broke down and PM'd Laurel and begged her for help.

That brought tears to my eyes. Priceless.

I love lit, mostly because this is the first erotic story site I found and am used to it and how it works etc.

Learning more and more about websites, I have since discovered lit is in the top 500 or 1000 websites on the web. This means it is earning a shitload of money, not quite squllions. All I ask from the money they make from my unpaid contributions and other authors here, could they f**king well please pay a lackey or two to approve the stories so it doesn't take almost 2 weeks during the "I got fucked by a 3-dicked monster" (halloween is coming up) competition time?
 
SOL is .net, not .com. And while I don't wholeheartedly approve of some of the stories over there, I like the site due to the fact that I've never been trolled there. I mean, I've never had a single negative comment that was written to hurt me. Also, the fact that I submitted a story last night and they posted it twenty minutes later doesn't hurt.

I get three times the emails there than here.

For quality of stories, for all the bells and whistles though, LIT still has it all, so yes, I believe this site is better than any other I've been at posting time not withstanding. :catroar:
 
wishfulthinking said:
All I ask from the money they make from my unpaid contributions and other authors here, could they f**king well please pay a lackey or two to approve the stories so it doesn't take almost 2 weeks during the "I got fucked by a 3-dicked monster" (halloween is coming up) competition time?

Honey, those are tentacles, not dicks. ;)
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I haven't been as active over there as usual but I'll be there for you. I'm a huge booster of the SDC. They have some truly excellent critics over there - as good or better than what you get in most college creative writing classes - and the service is woefully underutilized.

Just remind me when your story goes up.

Thanks, I will. I've been getting my feet wet over there from time to time myself.
 
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Originally Posted by dr_mabeuse
I mean, I understood that the annual Arbor Day Story Contest was going on and that people were anxious to find out who'd written the most popular ass-fucked-while-planting-a-tree story, but I'd sweated blood writing my chapter for part of a serialized novel and I was losing readers by the day and I was psychotic about it and just about ready to be hospitalized with anxiety.Finally after a week I just broke down and PM'd Laurel and begged her for help.


wishfulthinking said:
That brought tears to my eyes. Priceless.

I love lit, mostly because this is the first erotic story site I found and am used to it and how it works etc.

Learning more and more about websites, I have since discovered lit is in the top 500 or 1000 websites on the web. This means it is earning a shitload of money, not quite squllions. All I ask from the money they make from my unpaid contributions and other authors here, could they f**king well please pay a lackey or two to approve the stories so it doesn't take almost 2 weeks during the "I got fucked by a 3-dicked monster" (halloween is coming up) competition time?

Well, just think how long ya'll would have had to wait if there had been a contest for "ass-fucked by a 3 dicked monster while planting a tree" and while everybody thinks thier stories are better and more important, and might actually be, this site does not prejudice against enviromentally safe ass-fucking or against persons with disabilities or cool abilities like multiple appendages.

I was shocked once when one of my lil stories got rejected. I felt violated and traumatized, but then I seen it was for a little error that was easy to fix and made it a better story, so I fixed it and re-submitted.

Readers who like your stories can easily search out your stories, or search for your stories in the "3 dicked monster ass-fucking with trees" section.

I know of one site which has more stories, and I don't like it. Searching through the stories is nice until you come to some underage rape and have to go throw up, or some underage rape which was obviously written by an underage author who couldn't find the spell-checker.

Your first post was right DR. M that for quality AND quantity Lit is the best. And for something else as well, the admins listen and consider when we have suggestions, or even critism, and they stand behind thier opinions and back up any author who posts a story.

:rose: :kiss: :rose:
 
Beneficial for a number of reasons.
Life is brutal, so it's fair to understand the risk of brutal response to the presentation of an idea, and once that's dealt with, you can focus on ways to better communicate an idea that seems to show potential.
It's fascinating and another reflection of Life, that the ideas you get really excited about sometimes flop, and something that you think so-so, somehow communicates more than you expected.
I like the laxity in submission and deletion, try this batch of ideas, pull them down, tinker with them, put them back up, see if they relate in any improved way, if they achieve at least a loose cohesion, relate to the other, see if they hold up over any duration of time.

I've joined or lurked at a lot of writing sites, but this is the only one that I've dedicated any real efforts into over the course of a few years.

Of course, it shouldn't be a surprise that a site with a main focus on the erotic has so many sticky little puddles so easy to slip in, and softest freefalls. :heart:
 
I took a look at StoriesOnline. Of course the SOL tag makes me smile (I'm shit out of luck?"

Is there a forum there, or is it just straight submit?
 
I'm the best there is, and I'm here. Ergo.
 
Recidiva said:
I took a look at StoriesOnline. Of course the SOL tag makes me smile (I'm shit out of luck?"

Is there a forum there, or is it just straight submit?

No Forum I know of, and the navigation is a bit bewildering.

If you want to get a taste for the place... Well, here's what I did: Go to the top-rated stories and read a bit and see what you think of the quality.

If Boy's Life circa 1955 is your idea of top-notch fiction, than you've found your home. They're big on the "Wake-up, sleepyhead!" style of prose. It's not for me.

And I guess you can complain about trolls here knocking stories out of top spots, but at least it keeps things in a state of constant ferment and revolution. Who wants one story to rule the roost for a year? And really, is any one story really that fucking good? Has anyone here written the bible or something and it slipped by me? To me, SOL place seemed very static and conservative, and despite the squicky topics they allowed, I received a complaint on one of my stories for letting a girl peg a man because it offended the reader's sensibilities.

Because of the forums and the rabid (*L* I meant "rapid", but that's good too) story turnover, Literotica is much more of a writer's site. Things happen here. It's a community. SOL ain't. It's more like a library, and it's kind of dusty over there in my opinion.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
No Forum I know of, and the navigation is a bit bewildering.

If you want to get a taste for the place... Well, here's what I did: Go to the top-rated stories and read a bit and see what you think of the quality.

If Boy's Life circa 1955 is your idea of top-notch fiction, than you've found your home. They're big on the "Wake-up, sleepyhead!" style of prose. It's not for me.

And I guess you can complain about trolls here knocking stories out of top spots, but at least it keeps things in a state of constant ferment and revolution. Who wants one story to rule the roost for a year? And really, is any one story really that fucking good? Has anyone here written the bible or something and it slipped by me? To me, SOL place seemed very static and conservative, and despite the squicky topics they allowed, I received a complaint on one of my stories for letting a girl peg a man because it offended the reader's sensibilities.

Because of the forums and the rabid (*L* I meant "rapid", but that's good too) story turnover, Literotica is much more of a writer's site. Things happen here. It's a community. SOL ain't. It's more like a library, and it's kind of dusty over there in my opinion.

Okay, yeah. I like being able to interact with people here.

I don't mind the trolls, really. They make me giggle.
 
Okay, I'll take a stab at this.

In terms of community and kinship, Lit is phenomenal. In terms of feedback (quality of) and story posting (speed and formatting) Stories Online works better for me.

I write here at Lit because I love Lit- this is where I started, 7 years ago, writing and publishing erotic fiction. I love my friends on the forums and the conversations about writing and everything else we engage in.

I cross post to SO because I GET BETTER FEEDBACK. The format of their site is different than Lit's- not nearly as point and click, and they have a paid feature. It seems to weed out a lot of the trolls. I get a lot of insightful and expansive feedback, as well as the friendly "Hey, you made a mistake (here)" types. They also have a much more expansive voting range, which means they don't get as badly trolled as they do here on Lit. I like the fact that I can attach several profiles to one email address and get feedback on all my work without having to log into twenty different email accounts. They also accept a much wider range, so I can post a LOT of stuff that would never see the light of day here on Lit because of the content. (I don't write all sweetness and light love stories, folks.)

On the other hand, Lit has some incredible authors that can't be matched anywhere else. They have the contests, the poetry format, illustrated, audio, etc. All of that is a bonus. I wish I could post some of my illustrated work here, but honestly, I don't think it would work with Lit's format. (And I wish I could post some of the work that Kittay illustrated for me- that girl has talent beyond anything I've ever seen outside of the pros.)

So, it's a catch-22. I stay at Lit for the people. I post to SO for the feedback. It all works out in the end.
 
Liar said:
I'm the best there is, and I'm here. Ergo.

Well Liar, you forgot to mention how humble you are also, he, he, and most of us only come here because you do. Laurel and Manu was telling me the other day how, if you ever leave, they will just shut down the site and walk away.

I was ponderin important facts the other day when I realized "Liar" and " Lit" both start with "Li", coincidence? I think not.

How anyone with such a big head can remain humble is mind boggling, and we can only assume it is because you have a big penis also.

Lit is lucky to have you, and so are all of us.

:kiss: :kiss:
 
note to slyc

SW I don't like the idea of being associated with a site [SOL] that implicitly endorses pedophilia.

P: lit is clearly superior, for, on the same reasoning, it merely endorses slavery, torture, murder and incest.
 
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