CelestialBody
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Ambrosious
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I'm taking it to e-mail. Killer, you have mail.
Never
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What about my story? Did anyone like my story? If people say they like my story I'll say I liked theirs.
Also, Killer, would you stop straddling that fence and just spit out what you mean to say? I mean really hun, you've got a tongue, use it.
Also, Killer, would you stop straddling that fence and just spit out what you mean to say? I mean really hun, you've got a tongue, use it.
KillerMuffin
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Thank you Ambro, I appreciate it.But Never... what if I share The Fence? If I use my tongue, will you be sitting on The Fence as well?
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Interesting...very interesting
Ambrosious
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That's just great...
Now you have gone and ruined baseball by associating it with her. Damn...just damn. I made my case, it was answered with scathing sarcasm. I chose to withdraw at that time. Sorry if you don't like it.
Now you have gone and ruined baseball by associating it with her. Damn...just damn. I made my case, it was answered with scathing sarcasm. I chose to withdraw at that time. Sorry if you don't like it.
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Sorry Bro.
Whispersecret
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Before I get “into it,” thanks for the email, Ambro.
Originally posted by Ambrosious
Jesus Christ! Will I ever be able to say ANYTHING without some people taking it the wrong way?
Yeah, Ambrosious. You say stuff all day long without people getting upset. You’re not being persecuted. It’s not my intention to hound you about everything you say—only about the things you say that piss me off.
I mad a casual observation about board personas matching the image I get about the author of a story while reading it. I WILL NOT start naming names, nor will I send feedback. I was NOT critisizing the stories, dark is dark, and airy is airy. They BOTH have a place here.
You threw around phrases like "trite," "poorly constructed plots," and "unimaginative." Explain to me how that isn’t criticism. If you make a judgement about someone's work (good or bad) you are criticizing, and it’s worse if you don’t offer any specifics.
Please try not to find offense in every word I post, it isn't all bad. I swear.
I don't think that. Most of your stuff is harmless, and if you look back, you'll see I rarely respond to your threads. So don't paint yourself as my scapegoat.
Yeah, there's some bad poetry and prose posted. There's some great stuff too. You think you just made a blanket statement like, "Gee! There's some good poetry and bad poetry here." But you that’s not what you did. You pointedly connected the bad stuff to people whom you find to be sour, pissy, whiny, etc. Big difference.
Originally posted by Ambrosious
Jesus Christ! Will I ever be able to say ANYTHING without some people taking it the wrong way?
Yeah, Ambrosious. You say stuff all day long without people getting upset. You’re not being persecuted. It’s not my intention to hound you about everything you say—only about the things you say that piss me off.
I mad a casual observation about board personas matching the image I get about the author of a story while reading it. I WILL NOT start naming names, nor will I send feedback. I was NOT critisizing the stories, dark is dark, and airy is airy. They BOTH have a place here.
You threw around phrases like "trite," "poorly constructed plots," and "unimaginative." Explain to me how that isn’t criticism. If you make a judgement about someone's work (good or bad) you are criticizing, and it’s worse if you don’t offer any specifics.
Please try not to find offense in every word I post, it isn't all bad. I swear.
I don't think that. Most of your stuff is harmless, and if you look back, you'll see I rarely respond to your threads. So don't paint yourself as my scapegoat.
Yeah, there's some bad poetry and prose posted. There's some great stuff too. You think you just made a blanket statement like, "Gee! There's some good poetry and bad poetry here." But you that’s not what you did. You pointedly connected the bad stuff to people whom you find to be sour, pissy, whiny, etc. Big difference.
Hmmmmm.
I am really surprised at the turn this thread has taken. It started out with the potential of being a spirited debate and rapidly declined. I was hoping that Ambro, Tony, or the Countess would give some examples of the personalities who fit their stories, but unfortunately no answer is forthcoming? I am not even an author, and my curiosity is peaked. Who are these "sour" people with all the issues?
Ambro, I have to wonder where your stories fit into your scheme? Personally, I figure society looks as unfavorably on "dark" stories as your "licking dirty female feet" stories. Does that make you one of the sour ones? LOL, how ironic that someone who likes to lick dirty feet would entitle a thread "bad taste" and direct it to other people.
(FYI - no, my question is not a personal attack on you just because I direct it specifically to you. I have noticed your penchance for claiming 'foul' at the slightest hint of anyone disagreeing with you, and I wanted to tell you that I am asking out of CURIOSITY - not belligerence).
[Edited by Feisty1 on 01-25-2001 at 09:27 PM]
I am really surprised at the turn this thread has taken. It started out with the potential of being a spirited debate and rapidly declined. I was hoping that Ambro, Tony, or the Countess would give some examples of the personalities who fit their stories, but unfortunately no answer is forthcoming? I am not even an author, and my curiosity is peaked. Who are these "sour" people with all the issues?
Ambro, I have to wonder where your stories fit into your scheme? Personally, I figure society looks as unfavorably on "dark" stories as your "licking dirty female feet" stories. Does that make you one of the sour ones? LOL, how ironic that someone who likes to lick dirty feet would entitle a thread "bad taste" and direct it to other people.
(FYI - no, my question is not a personal attack on you just because I direct it specifically to you. I have noticed your penchance for claiming 'foul' at the slightest hint of anyone disagreeing with you, and I wanted to tell you that I am asking out of CURIOSITY - not belligerence).
[Edited by Feisty1 on 01-25-2001 at 09:27 PM]
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KillerMuffin:
"But Never... what if I share The Fence? If I use my tongue, will you be sitting on The Fence as well?"
Sharing the fence is an excellent idea - how diplomatic of you to offer. However, you do have to use your tongue, maybe not all the time, but often.
"But Never... what if I share The Fence? If I use my tongue, will you be sitting on The Fence as well?"
Sharing the fence is an excellent idea - how diplomatic of you to offer. However, you do have to use your tongue, maybe not all the time, but often.
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That's okay Never. I'm pretty good with my tongue.
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Re: Hmmmmm.
Feisty1 said:
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Okay...but the example I use will be my own.
I have two stories posted on Lit. One is a romance and one, although listed in How To... is more of a daddy/daughter incest with lots of naughty stuff thrown in.
No one gets badly hurt in my stories. The girls always gets rescued. Both have mind-numbing orgasms. There is some, but very little humiliation in my stories, but only to the character I identify with (the girl). That character does not go around hurting people in any way shape or form. She gets hurt, but you might leave with the suspition that she likes it.
Now for me. I don't hurt people. At least not intentionally. I flirt. I tease. I play...with everyone. I only get serious when I feel my opinion adds something to the discussion. I avoid religion topics because they are so explosive and I am not going to change anyone's mind via this forum.
The correlation there is that the character I create in my stories never voilates what I am. Yes, it's fiction and out of my imagination but it comes out of me. Which, to me, means it was in me to begin with. I will never write anything where "I" am a Dom. That's just not in me. I tried doing that in an srp and it just fizzled. It's not in me, so it can't come out.
As a side point, I am much more responsive to (and I'm sure others are as well) specific criticisms. When "always" or "never" crop up, it becomes an attack on my person for which I always get defensive. I'm probably not the only one. And while I applaud all those who have the integrity to be honest, I do not applaud those who don't care who they roll over or are unkind to in their quest for this "honesty."
I have two stories posted on Lit. One is a romance and one, although listed in How To... is more of a daddy/daughter incest with lots of naughty stuff thrown in.
No one gets badly hurt in my stories. The girls always gets rescued. Both have mind-numbing orgasms. There is some, but very little humiliation in my stories, but only to the character I identify with (the girl). That character does not go around hurting people in any way shape or form. She gets hurt, but you might leave with the suspition that she likes it.
Now for me. I don't hurt people. At least not intentionally. I flirt. I tease. I play...with everyone. I only get serious when I feel my opinion adds something to the discussion. I avoid religion topics because they are so explosive and I am not going to change anyone's mind via this forum.
The correlation there is that the character I create in my stories never voilates what I am. Yes, it's fiction and out of my imagination but it comes out of me. Which, to me, means it was in me to begin with. I will never write anything where "I" am a Dom. That's just not in me. I tried doing that in an srp and it just fizzled. It's not in me, so it can't come out.
As a side point, I am much more responsive to (and I'm sure others are as well) specific criticisms. When "always" or "never" crop up, it becomes an attack on my person for which I always get defensive. I'm probably not the only one. And while I applaud all those who have the integrity to be honest, I do not applaud those who don't care who they roll over or are unkind to in their quest for this "honesty."
WS says:
In Ambro's defense, just because he writes about someone licking dirty feet doesn't mean HE likes to do it.
I hear where you're coming from, WS. Your point, however, supports my point...if he LIKES it, he's in no position to throw stones at people he considers "dark." And if he writes about something that is NOT a part of his personality, then his original "discovery" is wrong - a person can therefore not assume or deduce things about an author from her/his stories. I couldn't care less either way if Ambro is all about feet or not; I just thought it would have been interesting to hear his explanation.
In Ambro's defense, just because he writes about someone licking dirty feet doesn't mean HE likes to do it.
I hear where you're coming from, WS. Your point, however, supports my point...if he LIKES it, he's in no position to throw stones at people he considers "dark." And if he writes about something that is NOT a part of his personality, then his original "discovery" is wrong - a person can therefore not assume or deduce things about an author from her/his stories. I couldn't care less either way if Ambro is all about feet or not; I just thought it would have been interesting to hear his explanation.
Re: Re: Hmmmmm.
Whispersecret and Feisty1
Below is my original post. If you read and comprehend the words you will notice I state that I avoid certain authors. I don't call anyone 'sour'.
Whispersecret, I have not read many of your posts so I do not have a 'personality' for you. But, I noticed that many of your stories have the word 'Hostile' in the title. Are you a hostile type of person?
Whispersecret and Feisty1
Below is my original post. If you read and comprehend the words you will notice I state that I avoid certain authors. I don't call anyone 'sour'.
Since you want an example, here it is. There is a person 'Circe!' whose name alone gives me the image of someone who is into medieval fantasy. Since that is the image of her personality that I have created (right or wrong) and since I am not into fantasy, I normally avoid her stories. Do you understand that example?
Whispersecret, I have not read many of your posts so I do not have a 'personality' for you. But, I noticed that many of your stories have the word 'Hostile' in the title. Are you a hostile type of person?
Tony,
Thanks for the totally unnecessary condescending response. I was under the impression that if you were asked a question, you were capable of comprehending that it was a question - not an attack. My mistake entirely. (See? It is OK to admit you are wrong on the BB).
Your attempt to explain your point of view was appreciated nonetheless. The Countess was capable of explaining herself eloquently, and without lashing out for being asked a direct question...maybe you could learn something from that. Probably not.
Of course if your defensive statement was an attempt to deflect more questions about an opinion you yourself have admitted "could be wrong," you have succeeded. I won't bother to ask you to attempt to explain yourself anymore - not because you have shown yourself to be witty and intelligent, but instead because your last post showed you to be defensive and condescending for no apparent reason.
Thanks again for taking the time to show your true colors,
Feisty1
PS. Brilliant last statement, FYI. Now, if WS defends herself at all you can accuse her of being "hostile." I truly hope for your sake that WS has no intentions of "taking over"...she'd be able to drive a truck through the holes in your logic. She's a little better at detecting bullshit that most other people.
Oh...and BTW...Woof.
Thanks for the totally unnecessary condescending response. I was under the impression that if you were asked a question, you were capable of comprehending that it was a question - not an attack. My mistake entirely. (See? It is OK to admit you are wrong on the BB).
Your attempt to explain your point of view was appreciated nonetheless. The Countess was capable of explaining herself eloquently, and without lashing out for being asked a direct question...maybe you could learn something from that. Probably not.
Of course if your defensive statement was an attempt to deflect more questions about an opinion you yourself have admitted "could be wrong," you have succeeded. I won't bother to ask you to attempt to explain yourself anymore - not because you have shown yourself to be witty and intelligent, but instead because your last post showed you to be defensive and condescending for no apparent reason.
Thanks again for taking the time to show your true colors,
Feisty1
PS. Brilliant last statement, FYI. Now, if WS defends herself at all you can accuse her of being "hostile." I truly hope for your sake that WS has no intentions of "taking over"...she'd be able to drive a truck through the holes in your logic. She's a little better at detecting bullshit that most other people.
Oh...and BTW...Woof.
Feisty1
If you thought I was being condescending to you then I apologize, that was not my intention. Rather my 'tone' was becuase you stated in your post that I previously used the term 'sour', which I had not.
Once again, I did not say I avoid someone's story because they were a sour person. One final example is that some posters on the GB have a very romantic personality which I enjoy on the GB but would not in a story.
I don't mind being questioned or even attacked on something I say but please quote me accurately if you respond to my posts. That way I will not take on a 'condescending' personality.
If you thought I was being condescending to you then I apologize, that was not my intention. Rather my 'tone' was becuase you stated in your post that I previously used the term 'sour', which I had not.
Once again, I did not say I avoid someone's story because they were a sour person. One final example is that some posters on the GB have a very romantic personality which I enjoy on the GB but would not in a story.
I don't mind being questioned or even attacked on something I say but please quote me accurately if you respond to my posts. That way I will not take on a 'condescending' personality.
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My name is KillerMuffin. I wrote a story about rape featuring an assassin. Can you read anything into that about my personality?
Feisty1
Having re-read your post, I do not see where you specifically directed your question to Ambro. However, I can understand that you believed it was implied. I will give you that as long as you give me the right to 'get my back up' against false accusations.
My original comment was not of a derogatory nature but I believe you and Whispersecret turned it that way.
Having re-read your post, I do not see where you specifically directed your question to Ambro. However, I can understand that you believed it was implied. I will give you that as long as you give me the right to 'get my back up' against false accusations.
My original comment was not of a derogatory nature but I believe you and Whispersecret turned it that way.
Tony,
WS hasn't even replied yet.
You already apologized for your condescending attitude, so I don't see how I am the only one who thought you were acting like an ass...apparently you agreed. I am getting pretty bored with the particulars of the arguement between us, so if you wish to discuss it further email me.
The intent of this thread was to discuss whether or not someone could discern anything about authors from the stories they write...a very interesting topic I believe. If you want to be vain enough to assume everything I write is directed at you, so be it. I would like to get back to the nature of this thread, however, so if anyone else wants to give specific examples supporting their opinion (regardless of whether or not you agree with Ambro, me, or have a third/fourth/etc. opinion to present) please feel free. Be forewarned...if you give an opinion I will probably ask you to support it with actual facts. Brutal and cruel, I know, but true.
WS hasn't even replied yet.
You already apologized for your condescending attitude, so I don't see how I am the only one who thought you were acting like an ass...apparently you agreed. I am getting pretty bored with the particulars of the arguement between us, so if you wish to discuss it further email me.
The intent of this thread was to discuss whether or not someone could discern anything about authors from the stories they write...a very interesting topic I believe. If you want to be vain enough to assume everything I write is directed at you, so be it. I would like to get back to the nature of this thread, however, so if anyone else wants to give specific examples supporting their opinion (regardless of whether or not you agree with Ambro, me, or have a third/fourth/etc. opinion to present) please feel free. Be forewarned...if you give an opinion I will probably ask you to support it with actual facts. Brutal and cruel, I know, but true.
feisty1
Your're right again, I am getting bored with your particulars and inexcusable name calling, but I will not hide behind an email so no one can see your comments. Since you did not want to meet me half way I guess that says a lot about your feisty personality, doesn't it?
No longer desiring to drag this thread down anymore than you already have I will direct my comments to others who can respond without capriciousness.
Your're right again, I am getting bored with your particulars and inexcusable name calling, but I will not hide behind an email so no one can see your comments. Since you did not want to meet me half way I guess that says a lot about your feisty personality, doesn't it?
No longer desiring to drag this thread down anymore than you already have I will direct my comments to others who can respond without capriciousness.
Your name implies, to me, a woman who is strong, cunning and intelligent. I have always enjoyed your GB threads and posts. I have read, and enjoyed, 'Stalking Tango' and I believe it matches my personality of you.
I'm sorry but I have not yet read any of your other stories.
