Back-click triggers

Amen to everything on the Doctor's list. #1 on my list is of backclicks is:

(1) "I had to write this because this really happened!"

Recounting actual events has a way of making authors (including me) forget all of the rules of good story-telling and start throwing in dull, pointless, aimless detail simply because "it really happened."

(2) Other author commentaries prefacing the text.

Agreed, the "you must read these other 14 chapters first" is particularly annoying and appears self-important, but I also shy away from most other author comments. The thing is, this is supposed to be a story. It's meant to charm and engage as a story. An author's note begging me to overlook specific flaws, trying to give me background the author couldn't figure out how to incorporate, or trying to introduce him/herself as an extra "character" for undisclosed reasons simply reads as an admission that that author could not do his or her job. I've felt the urge to explain in an introduction myself, and I've always fought it for that reason. The only exceptions I've made myself are dedications - which should be brief - and once a note identifying a work as fictional because the central character was a real person.

(3) Egregious spelling and grammatical errors.

If you can't master the comma, what are the odds that you've got switching third person narration down pat?

(4) The dreaded ellipses.

Amen to that. Excessive use thereof reads trite, dull, and incredibly slow. A good author must learn to use such devices sparingly and to construct prose that establishes a rhythmn through more subtle means.

(5) The numerical, everything-at-once, let's-get-it-out-of-the-way description.

Like others, I find the numerical description annoying and uncommunicative - especially, as CD points out, when it is physically incredibly unlikely. (And I would add to that any "too perfect" description - the dazzling sapphire eyes, the perfect, pouting little breasts, the radiant strawberry-blond hair, etc. It reads like a bad fantasy novel crossed with the masturbatory fantasies of a teenager.) But any character description that occurs in a big block with no purpose, no real point of view or perspective, and no contribution to the plot is a major turn off. For an especially annoying way to do this, see (6).

(6) The mirror scene.

Anywhere. I think that to date one author has managed to walk me past the dreaded mirror without a terminal balk on my part. It's the extended version of Dr. M's comment on vain narrators; not only does the narrator wax rhapsodic about his/her gorgeous body, but does so while staring gooey-eyed into a mirror, enrapt in the spectacle of the adorable self. This usually occurs when the character is dressing or after bathing, and appears to be a narrative device designed to let the author shove in a character description and get it all over with at once. References to "working out" and looking "ten years younger" are apparently obligatory.

The sole reason that this is not my number one backclick is that it usually occurs further into the story.

And might I add that titles are a major source of "never-clicks"? There's an art to making a good title that has appeal and suggests something new and interesting. I don't have this art, unfortunately, but I do know it when I see it. ;) Anything with a title like "My First Threesome," "Gigi Goes Anal," or "At My Mistress's Feet" reads like filler in the list of stories. Why click on a story whose title pretty much covers all of the information and simultaneously conveys a thorough lack of imagination?

Shanglan
 
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BlackShanglan said:
(6) The mirror scene.


No argument.

However, I have done a mirror scene before. No rhapsodic waxing over her gorgeous body, instead the main character was checking to see if her butt plug showed through her clothes.


I readjust my clothes in the living room, hands smoothing dress as cheeks clench tightly on my toy. I foolishly examine my ass in the mirror, wanting to make sure the plug doesn’t show. It doesn’t. After a few minutes, my somewhat irritated husband joins me. His cock still bulges the front of his pants, but he is dressed, and the interesting gleam in his eye promises a wild night.


The mirror can work, I think, if used properly.

But a loud AMEN to everything else on your list. :)
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
No argument.

However, I have done a mirror scene before. No rhapsodic waxing over her gorgeous body, instead the main character was checking to see if her butt plug showed through her clothes.


I readjust my clothes in the living room, hands smoothing dress as cheeks clench tightly on my toy. I foolishly examine my ass in the mirror, wanting to make sure the plug doesn’t show. It doesn’t. After a few minutes, my somewhat irritated husband joins me. His cock still bulges the front of his pants, but he is dressed, and the interesting gleam in his eye promises a wild night.


The mirror can work, I think, if used properly.

But a loud AMEN to everything else on your list. :)

Ah, that's just happening to have a mirror in your story, rather than utilising the mirror to try and describe a character.

I was guilty of this in my first Lit work (under my first, abortive pseudonym). Although if my character had looked 10 years younger, she'd have been 8.

The Earl
 
The number one thing that will get me back-clicking like crazy is too many pages! If I'm reading an erotic story, I would really rather not settle into my computer chair for a nice, long novel. I prefer the length to be about the size of a magazine article.

That having been said, I hate . . . no, despise . . . reading and reading and reading and reading and reading and reading, and STILL no action! It can be the best story in the world, but if I've read through what I feel is a good chunk of the material and still haven't come across any sex, I'm giving up and going elsewhere.

Added to those points, I'd say: word choice (how much I can get into a story really depends heavily on how you spin it), measurements (totally unnecessary), sex that is strictly described mechanically (I know what parts go where, and mechanical descriptions are important, but I want to know what they're feeling, how they sound, what the expressions on their faces are, etc.), horrible spelling will ruin a piece for me because it's all I can concentrate on (*I wish I had a nerdy emoticon for this*), ridiculous numbers of orgasms (eventually, the novelty wears off, and it becomes very repetitive very quickly), and finally, ridiculous, god-awful amounts of cum. I've seen people write about semen and vaginal fluids as though their characters were some sort of fountains, spewing gallons upon gallons of bodily fluids. Don't get me wrong -- I love a man's cum. But, on overkill, the mental images lean more toward the disgusting.

Just my two centavos,
AppleBiter
 
TheEarl said:
Ah, that's just happening to have a mirror in your story, rather than utilising the mirror to try and describe a character.

I was guilty of this in my first Lit work (under my first, abortive pseudonym). Although if my character had looked 10 years younger, she'd have been 8.

The Earl


~ :D ~
 
I just thought of another one.

Stories that are rushed to get to the end.


It often happens in group sex kind of scenes, you get one, really in depth sex scene thats elaborate and full of detail then you'll get "and then cathy went off with billy and sucked his cock whilst I fucked Cheryl from behind and filled her with my cum. phew that was exhausting. the end."


I hate a crappy ending.
 
English Lady said:
I just thought of another one.

Stories that are rushed to get to the end.


It often happens in group sex kind of scenes, you get one, really in depth sex scene thats elaborate and full of detail then you'll get "and then cathy went off with billy and sucked his cock whilst I fucked Cheryl from behind and filled her with my cum. phew that was exhausting. the end."


I hate a crappy ending.
Aha! I knew I had another one. I've read so many stories on Lit that were very hot ideas, ruined by a rush to an ending. If you want to write one page stroke, please try your story out on a wank test audience first, to make sure no one gets left with blue balls. :)
 
OhMissScarlett said:
If you want to write one page stroke, please try your story out on a wank test audience first, to make sure no one gets left with blue balls. :)

*snicker* "wank test audience"
 
AppleBiter said:
The number one thing that will get me back-clicking like crazy is too many pages! If I'm reading an erotic story, I would really rather not settle into my computer chair for a nice, long novel. I prefer the length to be about the size of a magazine article.

That having been said, I hate . . . no, despise . . . reading and reading and reading and reading and reading and reading, and STILL no action! It can be the best story in the world, but if I've read through what I feel is a good chunk of the material and still haven't come across any sex, I'm giving up and going elsewhere.

:eek:

You, ah, might want to add "authored by Black Shanglan" to your list.

Shanglan
 
Jesus! I just realised.

I'm a bad writer.

I describe characters in blocks, too many of my stories are too long, use ellipses, have used mirrors (or windows) more than once at the beginning, have notes at the start of my stories, etc. and more of the same.

(Pulls paper bag over head) Oh! The shame of it.

Joking ;)
 
TheEarl said:
Measurements of any kind (height possibly excepted, if there's a reason for it to be known), fucking without any kind of rhyme or reason, nothing interesting or different about any of the characters.

Those are my back-click triggers (inspired by bullet's rant). Thought it'd be useful to collect them so that newbies can see what to avoid.

The Earl

Never used a measurement in a story, and never need too, other than height, AND only height - maybe. Describing the girth and length of a cock without measurements, the feel and fullness of breasts, or the look and texture of a pussy or cock is much more sexy than 36 double E's and 12 inches with no thickness (they leave that out usually, and thats important). The 5 senses come in handy here, and YOU CAN describe a character through what's important, and what about the 5 senses they describe or associate with metaphorically.

The trick in sex is to describe the taste, feel, smell, sound, sight and feeling of the experience, and I believe the really great writers on Lit, or otherwise, do go into a kind of Stanislovski (sp) state when writing - pulling from themselves as an actor or like an actor, when writing. You need to take from yourself, writing or otherwise, in order to give .

Reality and fantasy don't matter. You can suspend your disbelief as a reader if you can taste it from the writer ;),
 
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rgraham666 said:
Jesus! I just realised.

I'm a bad writer.

I describe characters in blocks, too many of my stories are too long, use ellipses, have used mirrors (or windows) more than once at the beginning, have notes at the start of my stories, etc. and more of the same.

(Pulls paper bag over head) Oh! The shame of it.

Joking ;)


So long as you don't do it all at once - 53 pages of the same character staring at himself in the mirror and thinking ellpisis-ridden thoughts about his statistical measurements, with a pleading author's note at the beginning to please please please read the mirror scene as it's incredibly important to what follows ...

;)

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
So long as you don't do it all at once - 53 pages of the same character staring at himself in the mirror and thinking ellpisis-ridden thoughts about his statistical measurements, with a pleading author's note at the beginning to please please please read the mirror scene as it's incredibly important to what follows ...

. . . and you'd be doing an amicus imitation. :cathappy:
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
No argument.

However, I have done a mirror scene before. No rhapsodic waxing over her gorgeous body, instead the main character was checking to see if her butt plug showed through her clothes.


I readjust my clothes in the living room, hands smoothing dress as cheeks clench tightly on my toy. I foolishly examine my ass in the mirror, wanting to make sure the plug doesn’t show. It doesn’t. After a few minutes, my somewhat irritated husband joins me. His cock still bulges the front of his pants, but he is dressed, and the interesting gleam in his eye promises a wild night.


The mirror can work, I think, if used properly.

But a loud AMEN to everything else on your list. :)

My ode to mirrors:

Emma walked to the bed and unbuttoned her blouse, catching her reflection in the full-length mirror in the corner. Jackson liked to grab her from behind as she stood in front of that mirror, wrapping his strong arms around her curves and holding her close. He liked to catch her eye and hold her gaze as he kissed the arch of her neck and nibbled her shoulders while his hands roamed along her ribcage, over her hips, between her legs. He liked it even better when she leaned against him and pushed her ass against his hardening dick, wriggling and grinding as he held her to him until they both stumbled and fell onto the floor.

Her favorite mirror was the one above the dresser, though. There, she could bend over and rest her hands on the smooth top as he slid slowly and firmly into her from behind, watching her face the whole time and whispering into her ear, telling her how much he liked fucking his dirty slut. Or she could hold on tightly to the wooden edge and dare to peek into her own hungry eyes as he thrust his cock into her relentlessly, gripping and squeezing her plump ass in his warm hands before landing a stinging slap.



I get really aggravated by the enumeration of how many cocks someone sucked or how many times they were fucked. I've usually seen it in group sex, or BDSM stories. The author will describe fairly well what happens at first, and then you get the:

After Joe came all over her face, Sharon sucked 12 more cocks and took 22 more in her pussy and ass.
 
LadyJeanne said:
. . . I get really aggravated by the enumeration of how many cocks someone sucked or how many times they were fucked. I've usually seen it in group sex, or BDSM stories. The author will describe fairly well what happens at first, and then you get the:

After Joe came all over her face, Sharon sucked 12 more cocks and took 22 more in her pussy and ass.

Bwah!!!! :D

The poor woman.

I envision a great deal of pain and douching with the equivalent of a gallon of milk.

And honestly, do those so-called writers (probably many of them male) have any idea how hard it is to get that stuff outta your hair? Please!

:cool:
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
Bwah!!!! :D

The poor woman.

I envision a great deal of pain and douching with the equivalent of a gallon of milk.

And honestly, do those so-called writers (probably many of them male) have any idea how hard it is to get that stuff outta your hair? Please!

:cool:
Characters in stories have access to amazing cum-ridding shampoo not available in real life. :D
 
blackhaus7 said:
Characters in stories have access to amazing cum-ridding shampoo not available in real life. :D

(Wonder if they get it during cyber sex?)

:D
 
If I click on a story, and it seems like it's going to be over my head, I back-click.
That doesn't mean it's a bad story, but I can tell the ones that I'm just not going to 'get' lol.

I back-click if it sounds like a four year old wrote it.

That's about it. I try not to get too judgemental, because I know my stories aren't perfect and fantastic.
It just depends on who's reading what.

There's my two cents. :D
 
2nd person. I just don't read them. Don't tell me what I did, felt, will do, want etc. unless you happen to be beding me and know what I want, do or will do.

Historic settings that aren't historically accurate *shudder*

Overly flowery writing. If you tell me about her pusy by describing a flower, I'm outta there.

Superficial writing. If it's all about what they do and I never get any inkling of why I'm gone. If I can't connect with at least one of the characters it just isn't worth reading.
 
One of the annoying things I see is a writer trying to impress with vocabulary. It's fine if a character is depicted as either educated or arrogant but a stream of 6 syllable words in the narrative is indulgent and overcompensating (how's that). I don't suggest talking down but being realistic. Every now and then, I like to learn a new word.
 
I can be a bit particular myself, so there are a number of things in erotic stories that irk me so.

The ever-popular (and ever-despised) measurements:
Measurements are more or less lazy and cold, so they annoy me, but most especially measurements that aren't correct (or plausible, without some element of humour to the story) -- she may well be a lovely lady who wears a size 44DD bra, but she is not a lovely, slim lady with a 44DD bra, unless she's really tall; besides, there are much better ways of noting her bustiness than that. Not only are measurements just jarring to read, I don't think it's an effective means of description. Now, there are certain ways to make a mention of measurements fit within the story (by having it become a topic within the dialogue between the characters), but those are almost uniformly hackneyed.

Spelling and grammar count:
Brushes and paints are the tools of the painter, one who cannot effectively control brush strokes or mix colours should probably consider finding another means of expression. Likewise, spelling and grammar are very much tools of the writer, if they are not your forte, perhaps you should look into music. That's not to say one typo and back-clicking I go, but there comes a point where it's obvious that an author's technique with the language isn't up to par.

Historical and other errors:
A certain amount of lee-way is granted, of course, in the realm of historical fiction, because it is, after all, fiction. However, there is only so much one can bend reality in that case, before the setting is lost (if you're going to completely reimagine it, why not just go the fantastical route?) Errors of nomenclature are another that quite annoys me, for example Persian and Arabian are not synonymous. They are ethnically, culturally, linguistically, and (somewhat) religiously distinct groups. It may be a bit silly of me, but if the title says Arabian, the character damn well better not be from Iran.

Surprise heterosexual sex:
This is probably not an issue for most readers, but there is a particular problem which seems peculiar to stories in the Lesbian category where, at some point, usually with no real prefacing of the situation, a man will show up and have sex with one or more of the women involved. Now, sometimes in stories, honestly, I don't mind heterosexual (or even gay male) sex, but I prefer a bit of forewarning at least. Any sexual activity in the story must fit the characters and the general flow of the story. In general though, the strong male presence in a Lesbian story (whether that be in a character or in the tone of the tale) is a good bet that I will be seeking entertainment elsewhere. So, naturally, stories involving sex between women for the sake of the boyfriend/husband or sex between women for the sake of some other man/group of men are right out. Somewhat on the same sort of topic, I have a certain distaste, in general, for stories in which the characters seem more bi-curious, as they say, than actually interested in each other. I don't generally care to read about two housewives who get to know each other (though there are potential exceptions to that), drunk college students who are just "experimenting," or things like that.
 
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Equinoxe said:
So, naturally, stories involving sex between women for the sake of the boyfriend/husband or sex between women for the sake of some other man/group of men are right out. Somewhat on the same sort of topic, I have a certain distaste, in general, for stories in which the characters seem more bi-curious, as they say, than actually interested in each other. I don't generally care to read about two housewives who get to know each other (though there are potential exceptions to that), drunk college students who are just "experimenting," or things like that.


Good points. I react to these sorts of plots in a similar way. Sometimes that sort of situation reads to me like the author's craving for a depthless, "no-strings," porn-movie-style encounter where someone walks into the wrong changing room and suddenly decides to have a four-way with total strangers. At other times it feels like the author simply doesn't want the hassle of developing a story and prefers just to string together sex scenes with impersonal, photo-flat characters. Still other times I wonder if I'm looking at an author with so little understanding of the opposite sex that s/he can't do much with them other than dress them up and pose them evocatively like live-action Barbies or Kens. Whatever the reason, I tend to shy away from "just experimenting" stories, and most especially when they use some silly agency (the characters are drunk, soaked from a rainstorm, spill something on clothing, lose at strip poker, etc.) to force the behavior in while also clearly spelling out that it's out of character and won't trouble anyone with repetition. The only "one-off" story that I can remember enjoying is "What Chocolate Mousse Can Do," which develops the action as a deliberate and conscious choice on the part of the participants to mix sexuality with friendship for a specific emotional reason.

Shanglan
 
I own two of the most irritating books in the world. The first has no periods after titles (e.g. Ms Jasmine walked into the room). I'm sorry to come off like a grammar Nazi, because I know far too many people who get offended if I tell them I prefer proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation, but if you can't take it please don't respond. Those things are important to me and are intensely annoying in the course of a story.

The second uses unnecessary capitalization and hyphens. All the time. I bet I couldn't find a page without, for example, the word "Be-ing" or "Dis-ease" in the middle of a sentence.

I know that free Internet story sites will have problems with the things I've mentioned, but I avoid those authors who do have consistent problems with the above like the Pla-gue, Dr Reader.

--Ms Author
 
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