Back again

[Eating_Scarlett]

I realised what it is that irks me about BDSM.

It's not real. It's a game.

While you're with your partner, say you're a submissive, for example. The rule goes, you're his slave.

But you're not really his slave, are you? If you're not happy in the relationship, you can get up and leave. So really, you have the choice to stay or go. In a true slave/master relationship, the slave would never be able to leave. In a BDSM relationship, you're always pretending. I think it evolves from a need to add danger or spice or just something different to your sex life, because you've gotten bored with 'vanilla' sex and it fails to excite you.

Anyway, on another note...

I've been reading through some threads and have seen humiliation and being 'used' mentioned.

I have no idea why, but the thought appeals to me. What does it involve? What extremes is it taken to? Are the two inter-related?

Also, what's a ... spreader? (I think that's what I heard it called)

E_S

 

[James G 5]

I realised what it is that irks me about BDSM.

It's not real. It's a game.

While you're with your partner, say you're a submissive, for example. The rule goes, you're his slave.

But you're not really his slave, are you? If you're not happy in the relationship, you can get up and leave. So really, you have the choice to stay or go. In a true slave/master relationship, the slave would never be able to leave. In a BDSM relationship, you're always pretending. I think it evolves from a need to add danger or spice or just something different to your sex life, because you've gotten bored with 'vanilla' sex and it fails to excite you.

Anyway, on another note...

I've been reading through some threads and have seen humiliation and being 'used' mentioned.

I have no idea why, but the thought appeals to me. What does it involve? What extremes is it taken to? Are the two inter-related?

Also, what's a ... spreader? (I think that's what I heard it called)

E_S

There ARE a few people here who've made agreements to be slaves and NOT walk away
The agreements might not be legally enforceable, but some folks sure live by them
ownedsubgal, for instance, has stated the most she could do if her Master ever went completely beyond the pale (in to insanity or demanding her death, for instance, and OSG please correct me if I am paraphrasing your posts incorrectly) is ASk for release...but if he didn't grant it she would be bound to stay

Also, there's a phrase therapists use, "fake it till you make it"
Sure, people might be able to leave and just be "pretending" but it takes a hell of a mental shift to live as a slave, even if you CAN walk away
And many folks would likely end up finding that walk to be much harder to take than you think

IMHO, of course

As for the humiliation thing, that's a whole different topic


(dammit, I made a serious post....ADR, quick, marsupials all around)

 

[Netzach]

Don't the majority of married hetero couples say something about death till us part yadda ya, yet most churches permit divorce?

So it's a game too, right? Pretend?

 

[James G 5]

Don't the majority of married hetero couples say something about death till us part yadda ya, yet most churches permit divorce?

So it's a game too, right? Pretend?

Kinda my point
Even the "no divorce" Catholics permit annulments in some cases

 

[Eating_Scarlett]

Don't the majority of married hetero couples say something about death till us part yadda ya, yet most churches permit divorce?

So it's a game too, right? Pretend?

Yeah, that's a fair point, I suppose.

About the humiliation thing... anyone?

I read some stuff in the library, but everyone seems to be going off on tangents. There's gotta be more than just spanking and wearing a leash.

Fucking hell.. this stuff is beginning to interest me, what have you all done to me?

 

[HzDomme]

Yeah, that's a fair point, I suppose.

About the humiliation thing... anyone?

I read some stuff in the library, but everyone seems to be going off on tangents. There's gotta be more than just spanking and wearing a leash.

Fucking hell.. this stuff is beginning to interest me, what have you all done to me?

No one has done anything to you. Your mind has taken you to where it wants to go.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Yeah, that's a fair point, I suppose.

About the humiliation thing... anyone?

I read some stuff in the library, but everyone seems to be going off on tangents. There's gotta be more than just spanking and wearing a leash.

Fucking hell.. this stuff is beginning to interest me, what have you all done to me?

First rule of BDSM (in fact life in general) is take responsibility for your own thoughts and actions.

Catalina

 

[MissTaken]

Well, ES started a thread a little while back on the GB about name calling.

Apparently, her boyfriend took to calling her names in the sack.

I don't remember the outcome.

Did you like it Scarlett?

Wasn't it disrespectful to your way of thinking?

Did you get turned on or turned off by it?

Or, perhaps, your body reacted one way while your mind was telling you it was just awful?

What if he squirted his juices on your face while calling you his little cum slut?

How would you feel about that?

Regardless of how you would feel, it can be very exciting for some.

 

[sunfox]

Humiliation depends on the person. What MissTaken may find
humiliating, I might not, and vice versa.

So, I guess, Eating_Scarlett, if you're interested in it, you'll have
to find the things that push your buttons.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

*laughing*

This troll changes her tactics every couple of weeks.

This is just more of the same bullshit.

So, now she's going to profess a new love for what she previously found disgusting.

Yeah, right, what the fuck ever.

Feed her at your own risk, folks.

*eyeroll*

~anelize

 

[MissTaken]

Well, there are a number of posters here who have, in the past, repeatedly trolled on the freaks or one or two freaks in particular.

Then, they turned out to be accepted by the community, or most of us.

ES' last thread went well as I expect this one will. As long as she asks a serious, non inflammatory question, she will get responses.

When she starts her "freak talk" she will get curt and rude remarks and ultimately, will be ignored.

I responded because I did read her other thread during a time when she was writing what appeared to be a number of serious threads and these questions are consistent with what she has previously said was happening in her relationship.

Could it be all shit?
Sure.
But, could it be legitimate?
Sure.

Wont' know until she posts more here, if she chooses to.

 

[Eating_Scarlett]

Well, there are a number of posters here who have, in the past, repeatedly trolled on the freaks or one or two freaks in particular.

Then, they turned out to be accepted by the community, or most of us.

ES' last thread went well as I expect this one will. As long as she asks a serious, non inflammatory question, she will get responses.

When she starts her "freak talk" she will get curt and rude remarks and ultimately, will be ignored.

I responded because I did read her other thread during a time when she was writing what appeared to be a number of serious threads and these questions are consistent with what she has previously said was happening in her relationship.

Could it be all shit?
Sure.
But, could it be legitimate?
Sure.

Wont' know until she posts more here, if she chooses to.

I'm not jumping into BDSM. The only time I ever come here is when nothing interesting is happening on the GB or How To forum... At first I was repulsed, and some of the things I read in the library, like cutting, etc still baffle me. But some of it intrigues me.

YES, my boyfriend went all aggro in bed one night, YES, I liked it. I don't know whether it was the surprise of him acting so out of character that I liked, or whether I liked thinking of myself in the way he saw me at that time.

Either way, it was very mild in comparison with him leading me outside in a leash & collar...!

I will always be in a 'vanilla' relationship but I would like to keep it exciting. I find that reading some of the things in here give me ideas, even though I still think that some of you have taken things to an extreme level, just to alleviate your boredom with vanilla sex.

 

[James G 5]

Well, there are a number of posters here who have, in the past, repeatedly trolled on the freaks or one or two freaks in particular.

Then, they turned out to be accepted by the community, or most of us.

ES' last thread went well as I expect this one will. As long as she asks a serious, non inflammatory question, she will get responses.

When she starts her "freak talk" she will get curt and rude remarks and ultimately, will be ignored.

I responded because I did read her other thread during a time when she was writing what appeared to be a number of serious threads and these questions are consistent with what she has previously said was happening in her relationship.

Could it be all shit?
Sure.
But, could it be legitimate?
Sure.

Wont' know until she posts more here, if she chooses to.

Heck, I was just giving up on it 'cause I actually made a thoughtful, serious post & no one really responded

 

[ownedsubgal]

Re: Re: Back again

There ARE a few people here who've made agreements to be slaves and NOT walk away
The agreements might not be legally enforceable, but some folks sure live by them
ownedsubgal, for instance, has stated the most she could do if her Master ever went completely beyond the pale (in to insanity or demanding her death, for instance, and OSG please correct me if I am paraphrasing your posts incorrectly) is ASk for release...but if he didn't grant it she would be bound to stay

Also, there's a phrase therapists use, "fake it till you make it"
Sure, people might be able to leave and just be "pretending" but it takes a hell of a mental shift to live as a slave, even if you CAN walk away
And many folks would likely end up finding that walk to be much harder to take than you think

IMHO, of course

As for the humiliation thing, that's a whole different topic


(dammit, I made a serious post....ADR, quick, marsupials all around)

yes James, it is true that i can only ask/beg my Master for release if things ever got to that point, and if he chose not to release me then yes i would have to stay. not by choice but because i'm his property. i can say with absolute certainty that under no circumstances would my Master allow me to "walk away". He would come after me and do whatever was necessary to keep me physically tied to him, and would punish me to extremes for having the gall to decide to leave on my own in the first place. i don't even like to imagine such things.

for some, this lifestyle IS a game. it's fun. kink. bedroom play. sexy thrills. it turns them on, when they're in the mood for it, and that's as far as it goes. for others it's so beyond and apart from anything sexual that it is simply the very depth of their inner natures, and has nothing to do with fun and games but is just who they are...how they are made...period. some start exploring with a little bdsm play during sex and then realize that isn't what they need or desire at all...that they need TRUE Domination and submission....others begin with a more serious D/s relationship or even M/s and then to their horror discover that all they really wanted deep down was a little kinky sex. we all have to find our place in this world, but the wonderful thing is there's a place for us all.

 

[James G 5]

Re: Re: Re: Back again

yes James, it is true that i can only ask/beg my Master for release if things ever got to that point, and if he chose not to release me then yes i would have to stay. not by choice but because i'm his property. i can say with absolute certainty that under no circumstances would my Master allow me to "walk away". He would come after me and do whatever was necessary to keep me physically tied to him, and would punish me to extremes for having the gall to decide to leave on my own in the first place. i don't even like to imagine such things.

Glad I didn't misstate your position

 

[A Desert Rose]

...What if he squirted his juices on your face while calling you his little cum slut?...

You been reading my diary again?

 

[MissTaken]

You been reading my diary again?

I liked that part where he.....with the chocolate!

 

[A Desert Rose]

I liked that part where he.....with the chocolate!

Thank God you didn't mention the kangaroo thing. I do have a reputation to uphold here.

 

[MissTaken]

Thank God you didn't mention the kangaroo thing. I do have a reputation to uphold here.

Some things are precious memories better to be left unsaid. HOwever, how DID you do that with the oppossum?

 

[A Desert Rose]

This is one thread I could completely enjoy hijacking.

I may come back and do this more often. LOL

And you have a lovely day, MissT. ;-)

 

[Desdemona]

This is one thread I could completely enjoy hijacking.

I may come back and do this more often. LOL

And you have a lovely day, MissT. ;-)

I'm feeling a little prejudice here. Where are the flamingos?????

 

[A Desert Rose]

I'm feeling a little prejudice here. Where are the flamingos?????

Okay... I have plans for this week already in the works.

Tell you what... flamingos come next week. Okay?

and damn... that's a funny pic, dolly Lmao.

 

[Desdemona]

Okay... I have plans for this week already in the works.

Tell you what... flamingos come next week. Okay?

and damn... that's a funny pic, dolly Lmao.

Glad you liked her. She is sitting on the mantle in my living room right now. LOL

 

[kayte]

Kinda my point
Even the "no divorce" Catholics permit annulments in some cases

That is always the interesting misunderstanding about Catholics. Like most churches they don't 'encourage' divorce. But it is permitted.

The kicker is that marriage is for life and a divorced Catholics cannot remarry and remain in the church.

The exceptions are an annulment of the marriage or the death of the other person, then you can remarry.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Re: Re: Re: Back again

yes James, it is true that i can only ask/beg my Master for release if things ever got to that point, and if he chose not to release me then yes i would have to stay. not by choice but because i'm his property. i can say with absolute certainty that under no circumstances would my Master allow me to "walk away". He would come after me and do whatever was necessary to keep me physically tied to him, and would punish me to extremes for having the gall to decide to leave on my own in the first place. i don't even like to imagine such things.

LOL.....I don't have to use my own imagination as I have been told what would happen after the most severe and extensive punishment if he even thought I might take it into my head to want my freedom from his rule for whatever reason. He will literally lock me up permanently and I will be lucky to ever see the light of day again...so I don't toy with the idea. Fortunately I don't want my freedom and could never imagine my life without wanting him in it, so guess I am safe.

Catalina