AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk

[AwkwardMD]

I get it's site policy and decided above this level, but a story that's backed by 100% human ideas should be valid.

They are indistinguishable to Lit's AI detector. AI-written, prompt-generated writing and human writing edited by AI produce functionally the same thing as far as Literotica is concerned.

Write it yourself. Edit it yourself, or with the help of a human volunteer editor. This is the only way.

 

[SkyBubble]

Lit's AI detector is not driven by capital a capital i artificial intelligence.

That can't be right. How does it work then?

 

[AwkwardMD]

That can't be right. How does it work then?

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works.

Please stop filing up this thread with inane replies.

 

[SkyBubble]

The second story that was sent back not so much. Human-written draft, revised by AI in places.

And there's your problem -- "revised by AI in places." While it's one thing to use a spell checker to check spelling and grammar, if you let it make revisions for you, that is considered AI use by Lit's system. It will make suggestions, but only you should be making actual revisions.

 

[SkyBubble]

Please stop filing up this thread with inane replies.

Laurel can't possibly do that herself, and any system she uses to check for AI will have to be trained enough to be an AI system. You said it's not, that it's more like a calculator, but a calculator isn't up to the task. An AI detector, which is itself AL, is.

 

[SkyBubble]

Write it yourself. Edit it yourself, or with the help of a human volunteer editor.

And you still stand a decent chance of getting flagged for AI.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I will not be discussing how it works, or refuting your incorrect assumptions.

 

[Bob_Mins]

Welcome to the AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk. If you’ve had a story rejected citing AI assistance and were told to seek out a volunteer editor, I might be able to help.

I believe that I have some understanding of how the AI detector works. I reached this theory just over a year ago, but I wasn’t confident enough in my understanding to say anything except to a few individuals in private. Over time, more authors came through talking about their rejections, and my initial theory continued to hold water. In addition to that, I have recently helped a few authors work through their rejections (not around, through).

Please do not fill up this thread with commentary on AI.

The purpose of this thread is not to help AI-assisted writing be published on Literotica, but to help authors who did not understand that what they were doing violated the rules. In other words, if you don’t know why your story was rejected, I can’t help you.

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works, and I reserve the right to stop helping anyone at any time. Please reach out to me via this thread before PMing me.

I have the same problem, hope to get your help

 

[AwkwardMD]

I have the same problem, hope to get your help

Tell me more!

 

[Damfino88]

I’d like to ask for your help too. I had a story pending for two months. I sent a message to ask what was up, and it was finally sent back for AI suspicions.

I spent weeks writing the story. As a general rule, I'm opposed to people using AI to write, and the use of AI to displace writers and other artists. However, I must admit that when I wrote this story back in the spring, I did experiment with the use of AI as a "tool," as so many of its defenders kept saying it was. So I used AI to chart the play-by-play of a volleyball game within the story, since I don’t know the sport well. I then rewrote all of it, adding in the actual character interactions that took place within the game and deleting/rephrasing the rest. In the end, though, I didn't need that much detail for the game and ended up cutting almost all of it. There are only a couple of sentences in the 11,000 word story that might have a word or two from the AI volleyball game in it. Could this be the issue or might it be something else?

I wrote the story in Word, and of course made use of the spellcheck when it happened to flag something, but I don't use Grammarly or grammar checkers.

 

[TwitchyBunny]

Welcome to the AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk. If you’ve had a story rejected citing AI assistance and were told to seek out a volunteer editor, I might be able to help.

I believe that I have some understanding of how the AI detector works. I reached this theory just over a year ago, but I wasn’t confident enough in my understanding to say anything except to a few individuals in private. Over time, more authors came through talking about their rejections, and my initial theory continued to hold water. In addition to that, I have recently helped a few authors work through their rejections (not around, through).

Please do not fill up this thread with commentary on AI.

The purpose of this thread is not to help AI-assisted writing be published on Literotica, but to help authors who did not understand that what they were doing violated the rules. In other words, if you don’t know why your story was rejected, I can’t help you.

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works, and I reserve the right to stop helping anyone at any time. Please reach out to me via this thread before PMing me.

I'm having this issue with the second part of my story and I don't know why. I've read through the comments a little bit to see if it's a quick fix I can make, but I read over and re-wrote and deleted so many things throughout the story and I just can't see any AI-type errors that would have flagged it as AI.

The first time I submitted it, it sat in pending for months and I couldn't figure out how to get someone to check it and tell me what the holdup was. So I took it out of drafts and edited the description and got it back within days - with that AI message.

I wrote it in Google docs. Maybe it looks like I'm missing details because I have no idea how to publish a series in series format? Any missing details in the piece that was rejected are explained in the first part which was published separately. Idk how to tie them together as a series. I'm still new to all of this.

The document has two tabs right now. The first tab is the one that was published and the second tab is the one that was rejected. Is anyone able to help me figure out what I did?

 

[AwkwardMD]

I’d like to ask for your help too. I had a story pending for two months. I sent a message to ask what was up, and it was finally sent back for AI suspicions.

I spent weeks writing the story. As a general rule, I'm opposed to people using AI to write, and the use of AI to displace writers and other artists. However, I must admit that when I wrote this story back in the spring, I did experiment with the use of AI as a "tool," as so many of its defenders kept saying it was. So I used AI to chart the play-by-play of a volleyball game within the story, since I don’t know the sport well. I then rewrote all of it, adding in the actual character interactions that took place within the game and deleting/rephrasing the rest. In the end, though, I didn't need that much detail for the game and ended up cutting almost all of it. There are only a couple of sentences in the 11,000 word story that might have a word or two from the AI volleyball game in it. Could this be the issue or might it be something else?

I wrote the story in Word, and of course made use of the spellcheck when it happened to flag something, but I don't use Grammarly or grammar checkers.

PM me. I might not be able to do anything for you, but I can try. Some AI use (by which I mean generative LLMs) can stain a story in a way that never really comes out.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I'm having this issue with the second part of my story and I don't know why. I've read through the comments a little bit to see if it's a quick fix I can make, but I read over and re-wrote and deleted so many things throughout the story and I just can't see any AI-type errors that would have flagged it as AI.

The first time I submitted it, it sat in pending for months and I couldn't figure out how to get someone to check it and tell me what the holdup was. So I took it out of drafts and edited the description and got it back within days - with that AI message.

I wrote it in Google docs. Maybe it looks like I'm missing details because I have no idea how to publish a series in series format? Any missing details in the piece that was rejected are explained in the first part which was published separately. Idk how to tie them together as a series. I'm still new to all of this.

The document has two tabs right now. The first tab is the one that was published and the second tab is the one that was rejected. Is anyone able to help me figure out what I did?

PM me. I have questions.

 

[wallcleaner]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to share my experience and learnings to hopefully provide some potential help to people who are truly not using AI (as far as they know).

We all know that Literotica is taking a hard stance on being anti-ai, which is fine with me. The site is privately owned, they can set whatever rules they like. Of course, it was easy to think that way until for the first time ever, one of my stories was denied for AI use a few months ago. For something as recreational as writing erotica on this site, it gave me incredible amounts of anxiety and frustration.

How? Why? What? So many questions went through my mind. I NEVER used AI for my stories. Hell, I was writing on Literotica before AI really was a thing. This had to be a mistake, right? A false-positive? Did my natural writing style mirror AI somehow? I resubmitted my story again with notes pleading my case and it was denied again. I made random changes to my story, hoping to get it to approved. Denied again.

Reading through as much Literotica forum threads as possible, I learned 2 things:

1. 3rd party spellcheck tools (Grammarly and the like) are an immediate no-go
2. The site uses some sort of AI-checker, but any other details like what it is or how it works is completely hidden

Unfortunately for me, I used Grammarly. Grammarly gives all sorts of suggestions and since it was never writing any words for me, I mindlessly accepted them if I liked how it sounded. It was helpful. It was a tool. Apparently, its use gives any story a red flag to be denied for AI. Perhaps Grammarly does make suggestions based on AI learnings. Maybe all those suggestions of re-ordering sentences and switching around word-choice is all AI generated. If so, my story was littered with AI use and I never knew it. Therefore, any hope of my previously denied story getting approved was hopeless. There was no way I could remember everything Grammarly touched and what it didnt. I endeavored to write a brand new story, free from Grammarly.

Now, before submitting this new story, I did some due diligence beyond removing Grammarly. I took what I wrote and exhaustively checked it against various free AI writing checkers. 98% of them analyzed my writing and said it was 100% human written. However, one or two tools actually flagged my writing for being AI, one of those being zerogpt. Interesting. Were these the kind of tools that Literotica is using? I have no idea and it's unlikely they are, but I decided to edit my sentences based on their flags so even these tools think my writing is 100% human (which it was and still is). This is a crazy task, let me tell you. For those tools, you can rewrite the same sentence 5 different ways and it will still repeatedly flag it as AI, making my head explode.

However, after submitting my latest story, it was approved 2 day later. I could not even begin to explain how surprised I was. I was convinced it was somehow going to get denied again and drive me to lifeless void of despair. Perhaps all my due diligence paid off after all.

So, all in all, I would like to recommend 2 things to anyone who had a story rejected who are truly not using AI (you know who you are):

1. Delete Grammarly or any other similar word-checking tools. Don't take the risk. Rely on self-editing, volunteer editors, or the built in grammar checks within Microsoft Word or Google Docs
2. Run your story through one of the free AI checkers to make sure your writing isn't getting flagged as a false-positive. Don't let it make any changes for you (cause that's AI use, duh), but pay attention to what it's flagging so you know what you may want to revise to not get a false-positive.

Maybe my next story will be rejected and all this advice blows up in my face. I don't know, the future is incredibly uncertain as the world figures out how to navigate AI. But hopefully this advice can be helpful for anyone who is pulling out their hair trying to figure out what they did wrong.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to share my experience and learnings to hopefully provide some potential help to people who are truly not using AI (as far as they know).

We all know that Literotica is taking a hard stance on being anti-ai, which is fine with me. The site is privately owned, they can set whatever rules they like. Of course, it was easy to think that way until for the first time ever, one of my stories was denied for AI use a few months ago. For something as recreational as writing erotica on this site, it gave me incredible amounts of anxiety and frustration.

How? Why? What? So many questions went through my mind. I NEVER used AI for my stories. Hell, I was writing on Literotica before AI really was a thing. This had to be a mistake, right? A false-positive? Did my natural writing style mirror AI somehow? I resubmitted my story again with notes pleading my case and it was denied again. I made random changes to my story, hoping to get it to approved. Denied again.

Reading through as much Literotica forum threads as possible, I learned 2 things:

1. 3rd party spellcheck tools (Grammarly and the like) are an immediate no-go
2. The site uses some sort of AI-checker, but any other details like what it is or how it works is completely hidden

Unfortunately for me, I used Grammarly. Grammarly gives all sorts of suggestions and since it was never writing any words for me, I mindlessly accepted them if I liked how it sounded. It was helpful. It was a tool. Apparently, its use gives any story a red flag to be denied for AI. Perhaps Grammarly does make suggestions based on AI learnings. Maybe all those suggestions of re-ordering sentences and switching around word-choice is all AI generated. If so, my story was littered with AI use and I never knew it. Therefore, any hope of my previously denied story getting approved was hopeless. There was no way I could remember everything Grammarly touched and what it didnt. I endeavored to write a brand new story, free from Grammarly.

Now, before submitting this new story, I did some due diligence beyond removing Grammarly. I took what I wrote and exhaustively checked it against various free AI writing checkers. 98% of them analyzed my writing and said it was 100% human written. However, one or two tools actually flagged my writing for being AI, one of those being zerogpt. Interesting. Were these the kind of tools that Literotica is using? I have no idea and it's unlikely they are, but I decided to edit my sentences based on their flags so even these tools think my writing is 100% human (which it was and still is). This is a crazy task, let me tell you. For those tools, you can rewrite the same sentence 5 different ways and it will still repeatedly flag it as AI, making my head explode.

However, after submitting my latest story, it was approved 2 day later. I could not even begin to explain how surprised I was. I was convinced it was somehow going to get denied again and drive me to lifeless void of despair. Perhaps all my due diligence paid off after all.

So, all in all, I would like to recommend 2 things to anyone who had a story rejected who are truly not using AI (you know who you are):

1. Delete Grammarly or any other similar word-checking tools. Don't take the risk. Rely on self-editing, volunteer editors, or the built in grammar checks within Microsoft Word or Google Docs
2. Run your story through one of the free AI checkers to make sure your writing isn't getting flagged as a false-positive. Don't let it make any changes for you (cause that's AI use, duh), but pay attention to what it's flagging so you know what you may want to revise to not get a false-positive.

Maybe my next story will be rejected and all this advice blows up in my face. I don't know, the future is incredibly uncertain as the world figures out how to navigate AI. But hopefully this advice can be helpful for anyone who is pulling out their hair trying to figure out what they did wrong.

It's a shame how Grammarly has slid away from its earlier, passive usefulness. Your story is, I'm certain, all too common.

The only part of this I'd quibble with is the AI checker. You didn’t need it, and potentially you have fed your work into a machine that needs constant new material to maintain itself. Future AI writing will use your work as fodder. Most AI checkers are just other AI products, with corporations selling both poison and cure. They need you more than you need them.

 

[KayLunaTitles]

Welcome to the AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk. If you’ve had a story rejected citing AI assistance and were told to seek out a volunteer editor, I might be able to help.

I believe that I have some understanding of how the AI detector works. I reached this theory just over a year ago, but I wasn’t confident enough in my understanding to say anything except to a few individuals in private. Over time, more authors came through talking about their rejections, and my initial theory continued to hold water. In addition to that, I have recently helped a few authors work through their rejections (not around, through).

Please do not fill up this thread with commentary on AI.

The purpose of this thread is not to help AI-assisted writing be published on Literotica, but to help authors who did not understand that what they were doing violated the rules. In other words, if you don’t know why your story was rejected, I can’t help you.

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works, and I reserve the right to stop helping anyone at any time. Please reach out to me via this thread before PMing me.

I've recently started getting into writing. I have an unfinished project already up. I feel my style has improved but I've taken a lot of advice over this past year that now I'm wondering if perhaps some wasn't so great. First a fan suggested it's the use of the emdash. That a lot of AI uses it so I cut my usage down. Another fan suggested perhaps it's my comparative descriptors and increase in simile usage? I'm unsure where I went wrong and am debating giving up writing all together. Would love a fresh set of eyes on it.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I've recently started getting into writing. I have an unfinished project already up. I feel my style has improved but I've taken a lot of advice over this past year that now I'm wondering if perhaps some wasn't so great. First a fan suggested it's the use of the emdash. That a lot of AI uses it so I cut my usage down. Another fan suggested perhaps it's my comparative descriptors and increase in simile usage? I'm unsure where I went wrong and am debating giving up writing all together. Would love a fresh set of eyes on it.

Apologies for being literal, but it sounds like you haven't actually gotten a rejection and are just jumping at shadows (unnecessarily). Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Swedish_man]

Welcome to the AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk. If you’ve had a story rejected citing AI assistance and were told to seek out a volunteer editor, I might be able to help.

I believe that I have some understanding of how the AI detector works. I reached this theory just over a year ago, but I wasn’t confident enough in my understanding to say anything except to a few individuals in private. Over time, more authors came through talking about their rejections, and my initial theory continued to hold water. In addition to that, I have recently helped a few authors work through their rejections (not around, through).

Please do not fill up this thread with commentary on AI.

The purpose of this thread is not to help AI-assisted writing be published on Literotica, but to help authors who did not understand that what they were doing violated the rules. In other words, if you don’t know why your story was rejected, I can’t help you.

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works, and I reserve the right to stop helping anyone at any time. Please reach out to me via this thread before PMing me.

Welcome to the AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk. If you’ve had a story rejected citing AI assistance and were told to seek out a volunteer editor, I might be able to help.

I believe that I have some understanding of how the AI detector works. I reached this theory just over a year ago, but I wasn’t confident enough in my understanding to say anything except to a few individuals in private. Over time, more authors came through talking about their rejections, and my initial theory continued to hold water. In addition to that, I have recently helped a few authors work through their rejections (not around, through).

Please do not fill up this thread with commentary on AI.

The purpose of this thread is not to help AI-assisted writing be published on Literotica, but to help authors who did not understand that what they were doing violated the rules. In other words, if you don’t know why your story was rejected, I can’t help you.

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works, and I reserve the right to stop helping anyone at any time. Please reach out to me via this thread before PMing me.

I just uploaded my first story. I had a AI write it, I stated was based on a true story written by AI.
They will reject it because of that?

 

[AwkwardMD]

I just uploaded my first story. I had a AI write it, I stated was based on a true story written by AI.
They will reject it because of that?

Yes.

 

[Swedish_man]

Yes.

That sort of blows for us that isn't native English speakers. It's easier to write in your native tongue and then have the AI to translate. Oh well

 

[AwkwardMD]

That sort of blows for us that isn't native English speakers. It's easier to write in your native tongue and then have the AI to translate. Oh well

It is very unfortunate, yes. The most effective system right now is to write in English and enlist an editor to help you

 

[leviboy]

A story of mine was rejected because of AI. I wrote it in German as a Word document and I didn‘t use any AI in the process. But out of curiosity I let Deepl translate parts of it into English. Is it possible that this „contaminated“ the original German version so that it was rejected because of AI? Any help is much appreciated!

 

[AwkwardMD]

A story of mine was rejected because of AI. I wrote it in German as a Word document and I didn‘t use any AI in the process. But out of curiosity I let Deepl translate parts of it into English. Is it possible that this „contaminated“ the original German version so that it was rejected because of AI? Any help is much appreciated!

Potentially, yes

 

[leviboy]

Sad news, and disappointing, of course, since I put so much work and love into that story but thank you for your answer, anyway.