AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk

[AwkwardMD]

Thanks a lot. I tried to contact Peter Carsten, but I'm not sure if he is still in charge of anything.

I did not get a response.

I do not think this will get posted. The sites policy is functionally zero tolerance and you can't undo the changes Apples Writing Tools enacted. I hope that you will continue to write, however. Writing is a hobby that everyone can and should enjoy. Best of luck.

 

[tsmontague]

Hello!
I've had my story rejected due to supposed AI. And I could use some help. I did not use AI, and am not sure what they think was AI generated. I am anxious to get my story posted (it is Chapter 2-3 of a series, and I've already finished Chapters 4 and 5.) So this is me reaching out to you here!

This was my issue as well, and I have no idea why my story was flagged. It is the fourth in a series and I really want to get it published. I've messaged Laurel, and I've resubmitted with a note. I guess all I can do now is wait?

 

[AwkwardMD]

This was my issue as well, and I have no idea why my story was flagged. It is the fourth in a series and I really want to get it published. I've messaged Laurel, and I've resubmitted with a note. I guess all I can do now is wait?

That's correct.

 

[tsmontague]

The first step is to re-submit your document, with something in the "Notes to the Admin" section about how you believe a previous rejection was in error. However, LLM's definitely can produce the German language (if not quite so well as English, by and large) so I would not think hinging your defense on that detail would be helpful.

The AI detector at Lit is not, itself, an AI system. Write your own work, edit it yourself, and you won't have a problem.

I write and edit my own work, and yet a story of mine was flagged and I'm honestly so confused as to why. I don't use AI, I write every word myself. I've resubmitted, but I don't know what to change or fix so this doesn't happen.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I write and edit my own work, and yet a story of mine was flagged and I'm honestly so confused as to why. I don't use AI, I write every word myself. I've resubmitted, but I don't know what to change or fix so this doesn't happen.

There's no point in fretting about it now. You've taken the next step. You resubmitted with a note to the admin. Wait and see if that produces results.

 

[tsmontague]

There's no point in fretting about it now. You've taken the next step. You resubmitted with a note to the admin. Wait and see if that produces results.

Thank you, I'll do that.

 

[CherieSin]

My story has triggered the AI detector even tho I don't use AI to write stories for me. I don't use spellcheck either as I tend to go over the entire story at least twice before uploading to check for mistakes. I write all of my stories with the same style and everything. I guess my best bet would be to resubmit with a note to the admin.

It's so discouraging especially after you spent multiple weeks preparing and writing a story that's almost 40k words in length just for it to be sent back. Hopefully, my other submission won't get flagged for AI, that one is even longer and I can't even imagine editing it.

 

[SkyBubble]

That's a scary thougt.....

One person slopping together an AI detector to compete with companies that have poured in millions of dollars and hired the brightest minds in AI.... Brrrr...

But I have a question, if anyone know the answer...

If you could write content with AI, that is engaging, coherent and grammatically correct, would it still be AI slop?
(I don't think its's possible... yet...)

Why is it any more scary than having them use something like Originality, Copyleaks, or Sapling?

 

[SkyBubble]

I DON'T USE AI TO CREATE MY STORIES!

Neither do I, but I've been flagged more than once.

 

[millamomud]

Hello, and thank you for this thread! I appreciate the clarity of your intention here.

I'm writing from the German side of Literotica, where a recent forum post led me to your post. So far, none of my stories have been flagged, but I was wondering:
Do you happen to know whether the same detection rules (or similiar patterns) apply to non-English submissions as well?

Our thread is filled with speculation and half-truths, although a fairly common denominator seems to be that people copy their texts into new docs after checking and deleting the old ones, possibly to clear invisible formatting traces? I don't know.

Another thing is, that tools like Grammarly or Quillbot aren't really a thing here, but many authors rely on spellcheckers or style suggestions in standard word processors. Microsoft's copilot is likely more widespread than people admit, though I can't back that up with data.

I have also seen ZeroGPT being mentioned as a self-check which offers questionable results at best. I ran my old bachelor thesis (from way before LLMs were public) through it, and it came back with a 20% possibility for being written by AI.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Hello, and thank you for this thread! I appreciate the clarity of your intention here.

I'm writing from the German side of Literotica, where a recent forum post led me to your post. So far, none of my stories have been flagged, but I was wondering:
Do you happen to know whether the same detection rules (or similiar patterns) apply to non-English submissions as well?

Our thread is filled with speculation and half-truths, although a fairly common denominator seems to be that people copy their texts into new docs after checking and deleting the old ones, possibly to clear invisible formatting traces? I don't know.

Another thing is, that tools like Grammarly or Quillbot aren't really a thing here, but many authors rely on spellcheckers or style suggestions in standard word processors. Microsoft's copilot is likely more widespread than people admit, though I can't back that up with data.

I have also seen ZeroGPT being mentioned as a self-check which offers questionable results at best. I ran my old bachelor thesis (from way before LLMs were public) through it, and it came back with a 20% possibility for being written by AI.

Hello!

I suspect that Lit's AI Detector would work in German, but unfortunately that's so far out of my range of expertise that I feel uncomfortable making guesses.

On the one hand, I think my advice is still the same. Write it yourself, (ideally) edit it yourself (or enlist some trusted allies), and limit the number of programs or documents involved.

On the other hand, as much as this seems detrimental, I would encourage you to *not* spend a lot of time trying to disassemble how it works. Especially not in a public forum. It's not a perfect system, but it is a functioning system in a world that otherwise has no answers for how you stop AI from flooding in at every turn.

Keep it simple, and best of luck

 

[Minato_99]

So my story is still getting rejected.
I did just resubmit, pointing out in the note to mod that the only bit that is by AI is my disclaimer.

I'm probably answering my own question, but should I further edit my story. Removing the disclaimer or rewriting it into my own words.

 

[AwkwardMD]

So my story is still getting rejected.
I did just resubmit, pointing out in the note to mod that the only bit that is by AI is my disclaimer.

I'm probably answering my own question, but should I further edit my story. Removing the disclaimer or rewriting it into my own words.

i'm sorry, but why would you use AI to write a disclaimer about having not used AI?

 

[Minato_99]

i'm sorry, but why would you use AI to write a disclaimer about having not used AI?

I feel like I need to clarify. I mean in my story, the opening passage. The disclaimer or authors note is warning the reader what kind of kinks are included. I used AI to assist with writing that, but the story itself was written in my own words.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I feel like I need to clarify. I mean in my story, the opening passage. The disclaimer or authors note is warning the reader what kind of kinks are included. I used AI to assist with writing that, but the story itself was written in my own words.

No amount of "I only used AI to do X" is acceptable. Lit's AI Detector knows when you've allowed something inhuman to fiddle with your story, and getting it posted once it gets that first red flag usually requires someone else (like me) to vouch for you personally.

This is a bit like a boxer failing a PED test and saying "I only took it the one time, a couple weeks ago, because my mate was moving and I knew I was gonna have to carry his couch. It's like 3 flights of stairs!"

I'm sorry, but you might need to scrap that story and start over.

 

[Minato_99]

No amount of "I only used AI to do X" is acceptable. Lit's AI Detector knows when you've allowed something inhuman to fiddle with your story, and getting it posted once it gets that first red flag usually requires someone else (like me) to vouch for you personally.

This is a bit like a boxer failing a PED test and saying "I only took it the one time, a couple weeks ago, because my mate was moving and I knew I was gonna have to carry his couch. It's like 3 flights of stairs!"

I'm sorry, but you might need to scrap that story and start over.

I saw a recently uploaded story where in the disclaimer, the author wrote that they used AI to write the application in their story.

I figured so long as it's not relevant to the story itself, it would be fine.

 

[AwkwardMD]

If you believe another story has violated the rules, use the report feature. That being said, "that guy got away with it" is not a valid argument for you to also break the rules.

Good luck with your next story.

 

[Minato_99]

Fair point. I'll scrap and try again.

Would it help to point out in the note to the mod, that I review any suggestions or rewrites from grammarly, but make any edits myself?

 

[AwkwardMD]

Fair point. I'll scrap and try again.

Would it help to point out in the note to the mod, that I review any suggestions or rewrites from grammarly, but make any edits myself?

That would not need pointing out. It would be evident in the story itself.

 

[Minato_99]

That would not need pointing out. It would be evident in the story itself.

What about how I self-edit? I usually upload my work to Speechify and then listen to it.

 

[AwkwardMD]

What about how I self-edit? I usually upload my work to Speechify and then listen to it.

On the one hand, several users (like @StillStunned ) promote the use of Text-To-Speech programs to help process their work through a different sense (ears rather than eyes). I've found it useful myself.

However, I can't help but point out that Speechify is an AI voice-generation program.

 

[SkyBubble]

However, I can't help but point out that Speechify is an AI voice-generation program.

Spellcheckers are also AI, if somewhat basic AI. They're considered acceptable. I wouldn't think running it through Speechify or another program to see how it sounds would be a problem as long as you do all the actual writing yourself. I don't think it's any different from having a friend read it aloud to you, except your friend is a human.