AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk

[AwkwardMD]

I've been getting hit flagged for AI use, I read a post where it was suggested to use Track Changes on Word.
Should that be enabled the entire time I'm writing in Word?

Having word track your writing process day by day is a bulwark against the accusation of having the whole thing generated at once, by prompt.

 

[Minato_99]

That's annoying, but I can see how that'll help after using it recently.
I also recall someone mentioning uploading the document itself instead of copying and pasting it into the text field.

 

[AwkwardMD]

That's annoying, but I can see how that'll help after using it recently.
I also recall someone mentioning uploading the document itself instead of copying and pasting it into the text field.

Apologies for not answering until now. I swore I responded to your post days ago, and I was looking past it.

 

[Illogical]

Welcome to the AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk. If you’ve had a story rejected citing AI assistance and were told to seek out a volunteer editor, I might be able to help.

I believe that I have some understanding of how the AI detector works. I reached this theory just over a year ago, but I wasn’t confident enough in my understanding to say anything except to a few individuals in private. Over time, more authors came through talking about their rejections, and my initial theory continued to hold water. In addition to that, I have recently helped a few authors work through their rejections (not around, through).

Please do not fill up this thread with commentary on AI.

The purpose of this thread is not to help AI-assisted writing be published on Literotica, but to help authors who did not understand that what they were doing violated the rules. In other words, if you don’t know why your story was rejected, I can’t help you.

I will not be discussing how the AI detector works, and I reserve the right to stop helping anyone at any time. Please reach out to me via this thread before PMing me.

Greetings, I have just had one of my stories rejected on account of AI. In the past, I have successfully submitted 22 stories. Furthermore, I have worked with TWO editors from the program whom I credited in the story and in the small textbox at the bottom. You said that if I didn't know why my story was rejected, you can't help but I genuinley don't know. Sending a PM to Laurel does not seem to work, or at least that is the general consensus around here. What should I try? Should I rewrite the story again? Should I copy and paste the story in the textbox instead of submitting a file? I also read about having the editors vouch for you? How exactly? Should the editors send Laurel a PM? I'm not trying to be funny, condescending or sarcastic. I'm really lost here. Writing and posting on this website is just a hobby for me but its a hobby that I truly enjoy and all this seems...unfair. I'm just looking for help, thanks.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Greetings, I have just had one of my stories rejected on account of AI. In the past, I have successfully submitted 22 stories. Furthermore, I have worked with TWO editors from the program whom I credited in the story and in the small textbox at the bottom. You said that if I didn't know why my story was rejected, you can't help but I genuinley don't know. Sending a PM to Laurel does not seem to work, or at least that is the general consensus around here. What should I try? Should I rewrite the story again? Should I copy and paste the story in the textbox instead of submitting a file? I also read about having the editors vouch for you? How exactly? Should the editors send Laurel a PM? I'm not trying to be funny, condescending or sarcastic. I'm really lost here. Writing and posting on this website is just a hobby for me but its a hobby that I truly enjoy and all this seems...unfair. I'm just looking for help, thanks.

If one or both of the volunteer editors can specifically vouch for the creation process, with details, then here is what I've had success doing in the past:

1) The volunteer editor messages Laurel specifically outlining what they can attest to with regards to your writing, and your creative process. No exaggerating, in frank terms. Title it something like "On behalf of Illogical's rejected story <insert title here>"
2) Laurel replies, saying "Let me know when the author resubmits"
3) You submit your story with a note in the "Notes to the Admin" field mentioning that volunteer editor by name. "Edited by so-and-so"
4) The volunteer editor replies to Laurel, saying "Okay it's been submitted."

Now, this rests entirely on Laurel taking that editor's word for it. If you get future rejections for AI, this likely won't work AND you'll have put a black mark on the name of that volunteer editor.

I understand that you don't know what you did, and you want this thing you worked on out there in the wild, getting the eyeballs it deserves. Every author deserves that experience for work they made themselves. *If your story got rejected by the system I think I understand*, let this be a warning to you and your two editors about accepting suggestions from increasingly complex writing tools like Grammarly and Word. The developers of those programs are making them more AI-integrated, without really telling you that's what they're doing. It's entirely possible one of them went through your story accepting suggestions that made sense to them, without your knowledge. Even though it put you in this position, they might have done it with the best of intentions (which is specifically the area this thread is dedicated to helping).

Good luck, and please report back.

 

[Illogical]

If one or both of the volunteer editors can specifically vouch for the creation process, with details, then here is what I've had success doing in the past:

1) The volunteer editor messages Laurel specifically outlining what they can attest to with regards to your writing, and your creative process. No exaggerating, in frank terms. Title it something like "On behalf of Illogical's rejected story <insert title here>"
2) Laurel replies, saying "Let me know when the author resubmits"
3) You submit your story with a note in the "Notes to the Admin" field mentioning that volunteer editor by name. "Edited by so-and-so"
4) The volunteer editor replies to Laurel, saying "Okay it's been submitted."

Now, this rests entirely on Laurel taking that editor's word for it. If you get future rejections for AI, this likely won't work AND you'll have put a black mark on the name of that volunteer editor.

I understand that you don't know what you did, and you want this thing you worked on out there in the wild, getting the eyeballs it deserves. Every author deserves that experience for work they made themselves. *If your story got rejected by the system I think I understand*, let this be a warning to you and your two editors about accepting suggestions from increasingly complex writing tools like Grammarly and Word. The developers of those programs are making them more AI-integrated, without really telling you that's what they're doing. It's entirely possible one of them went through your story accepting suggestions that made sense to them, without your knowledge. Even though it put you in this position, they might have done it with the best of intentions (which is specifically the area this thread is dedicated to helping).

Good luck, and please report back.

Hi AwkwardMD. Many thanks for replying to my message I will work on my story and I will also let my editors know. I'll report back ASAP.

 

[SkyBubble]

I always got the impression that anyone could sign up as a volunteer editor without any vetting.

There is an application, then you wait to have that application approved.

 

[SkyBubble]

Also I do not believe that "writing in a certain style" triggers rejections, given my understanding* of Lit's detection system.

It's well known that there are triggers detectors look for. Every discussion of AI I've seen, herd, or read (here and on other writing forums) seems to say that.

 

[SkyBubble]

Excellent self-editing technique

I agree.

 

[SkyBubble]

If anyone is interested in giving it once over for me, Let me know.

I'd be willing to take a look at it.

 

[SkyBubble]

Please oh please don't write your stories directly into the story interface

As far as we know it has no history or analytics function like you're thinking, so it would not give you any recourse if you needed to prove your writing effort.

But more importantly, there have been too many horror stories of people losing hours and hours of writing because they didn't have their text saved somewhere. The Drafts space on Lit is not designed to be a text editor. There's no auto-save function, and no guarantee that it will maintain your text over time.

Use a cloud-based editor like Google Docs or something, and then paste your story into Lit when you're ready to publish!

I've got several partly-completed works in my Drafts box that I started writing in the text box here on Lit. I've never lost anything. Just be careful to save, save, save.

 

[SkyBubble]

Ugh, I purposely avoid using word editors like Word or Google Docs. I don't know why, but I need an interface as simple as possible. One that doesn't try to format text for you, doesn't entice you with bold or italics options etc. If I didn't write in the editor on the website I would write in Notepad which would be equally useless in case I needed to prove my work.

Thanks for the advice, though. I'll try to think of a solution, maybe I can find a stripped down editor online that tracks changes.

Have you tried a .txt file?

 

[SkyBubble]

Hi, I was referred to this thread for help and guidance. I have a story that was rejected because of alleged AI use. I am a writer in "real life" with multiple publications and do not use AI.

Sadly, it appears that's happened to many of us -- including me. There have been numerous recent threads about just exactly this issue. I don't know what to do about it, given Lit's overwhelming volume of submissions (more than Laurel or any human can handle), but it's increasingly becoming an issue.

I'd suggest finding an editor. AwkwardMD, who started this thread, is a good one; there are plenty of others. Ther are about 100+ pages of editors listed on the Volunteer Editors page (though many of them appear no longer to be active.)

 

[SkyBubble]

So, I must change my writing style to suit Literotica?

Thank you, but no thank you.

Unfortunately, that's effectively what's being demanded of you.

 

[SkyBubble]

(How do I know? I tested ZeroGPT with my ome of my own text, and it returned as 15% AI generated!)

Awkward claims to know the system and says it's generated here in-house, but from what I've read at various places (Reddit, X, etc.), it's probably more like Copyleaks or Originality.ai than like ZeroGPT. I've run some of my older stories from 2006-09, prior to the AI writing kerfuffle, through these detectors and they've claimed there was a high probability they were AI. But the AI writing tools weren't even out then.

 

[SkyBubble]

I do agree that it's a good thing that Lit keeps back a flood of AI slop.

I do too. I think we all do.

 

[SkyBubble]

That's a scary thougt.....

One person slopping together an AI detector to compete with companies that have poured in millions of dollars and hired the brightest minds in AI....

It is, a bit, once you think about it. I wonder how a site run by two people managed that. Are Manu's tech skills that good?

 

[SkyBubble]

If you could write content with AI, that is engaging, coherent and grammatically correct, would it still be AI slop?
(I don't think its's possible... yet...)

I don't think it's possible either (at least as of now), but it's an interesting question to consider? What, exactly, defines "slop"? If you could get AI to write like, say, Charles Dickens, would it be considered slop?

 

[SkyBubble]

Nobody (else) understands its criteria.

How do you know that?

 

[PennyThompson]

@SkyBubble, buddy. When you're reading through a thread, you can click the "+Quote" button underneat a post that you want to reply to, and you can do this for multiple posts at once, and then you can click "Insert Quotes..." like this:

I do too. I think we all do.

It is, a bit, once you think about it. I wonder how a site run by two people managed that. Are Manu's tech skills that good?

How do you know that?

When you reply to a dozen individual posts, one at a time, with one-sentence replies, it is incredibly spammy and repetitive and is likely to get your posts deleted. Just... reply to everything in one post

 

[SkyBubble]

Thank you, Penny, but I am replying as I read through the thread.

 

[AwkwardMD]

How do you know that?

Nobody has come forward.

 

[_Lynn_]

@SkyBubble, buddy. When you're reading through a thread, you can click the "+Quote" button underneat a post that you want to reply to, and you can do this for multiple posts at once, and then you can click "Insert Quotes..." like this:





When you reply to a dozen individual posts, one at a time, with one-sentence replies, it is incredibly spammy and repetitive and is likely to get your posts deleted. Just... reply to everything in one post

You're correct. I also think the poster in question should go back to the beginning and read the purpose of this thread. It isn't a place for simple replies that don't add to the topic.

 

[SkyBubble]

Nobody has come forward.

Perhaps they don't want anyone to know that they know.

 

[ObsceneVices]

Hi AwkwardMD

New author here, I have had certain ideas which i flushed out, and did use AI to help me with certain parts. My story was rejected. Sure - mea culpa.

But then, I went ahead and redid this. The story is mine, the idea, the whole set up, the characters, their interactions.
It was rejected again for AI. Now I'm like this is just not fair.

What do you think I should do?