Aw, Hell Naw!!!!!

[KindofHere]

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[ElectricBlue]

KeithD saw a bashing where there is none. Just read the posts of the thread and you'll see there is no bashing. That's sensitive, seeing harm where there is none.

Agree this - this is not a category bashing thread. The OP asked a legit question, which I note just about all AH regulars answered, openly, and with their reasons. I didn't see any kink shaming going on, just writers saying, "Not my kink." And sharing their own kinks. KeithD just read it all the wrong way around.

This thread is actually a celebration of a bunch of sex crazed individuals pounding their keyboards, saying, "Whoa, fuck, gotta get this down, this is so fucking HOT! Hamsters on ferris wheels, what's not hot about that?"

"Not on my site, you don't, EB. You know the rules."

"Sorry, Laurel."

EB looked shame faced, as Madame Laurel stalked away, a tight black leather skirt clinging to her spectacular curves, her long, long legs ending in stilettos with red soles. The whip lay coiled in her hand...

...right. Where were we?

 

[ChloeTzang]

This thread is actually a celebration of a bunch of sex crazed........right. Where were we?

Uh .... whips? Leather? Sounds like ... uhh... I'm so distracted now....

 

[Axelotto]

Re: Sensitivity

"I have no desire to wade through the sewer that is LW and the BDSM scene is just as brutal. "

Yes, I'd call that bashing. So I ranted about it. But I wouldn't call the whole thread a bashfest.



And that's not just me being "sensitive", its some poster choosing to be a Swine.

 

[yukonnights]

How does that scare the hell out of you? Anyone can do it, you take all the horrible things in the news and anything you can think of and you make a person like it, give them a reason or no reason for doing it, and have them do it. Done.

Your brother being queer has nothing to do with or excuse your homophobia. (Joking, I never liked 'phobia' being added to that word. It implies fear, which probably makes people who dislike it even more angry about it than they already are).

That's over the top roleplay. It's easy to get into anyone's head, if you can't then you're trying to hard or not enough or blatantly turning the 'process' into a needlessly complicated piece of performance art. I've written dark, twisted, maligned, and all kinds of depraved characters, been complimented them, not once did I have to take a shower, drop a Xanax, and tell myself, 'this isn't real. This isn't me.' - That makes for a good story though, a little over acting never hurt anyone I guess. I find people who are unable to mimic others without feeling like a victim to be odd.


Each to their own, I'm not going to give you shit. If that's how it feels to you, then that's how it feels. I don't understand the drama of it, but I don't have to. I'll take your word for it though. It's your mind.

This thread isn't picking on any category. It's a thread that asks, 'What wouldn't you write in," not "Please bash the category you don't like."

Fuck, this is a sensitive world.

But there is a difference, and that's the thing. You're creating an argument where there is none. So, 'mind-your-own business,' before your argument takes over the thread any more than it has or maybe that's your intention.

Not even close Yukon. You're taking my words and doing what you like with them.

KeithD saw a bashing where there is none. Just read the posts of the thread and you'll see there is no bashing. That's sensitive, seeing harm where there is none.

Edit: Now, back to the thread topic of 'What category don't you want to post in.'

If anyone wants a discussion with me about sensitivity (Yukon) my pms are open.

I have no interest in sending a PM, but if this is just a simple little question of 'what category don't you want to post in'....

 

[KindofHere]

The ones I didn't plan on hitting were:
Fanfic/Celebrities (Edit: I actually have one idea for a celebrity story that I'll probably never write) but that idea came randomly while thinking of something else.
Reviews & Essays
Tex with Audio
How To
Illustrated
Chain Stories
Non-English (even though one person in a fit of rage asked if English was actually my first language. It was reasonable though, I was missing a lot of words, like someone plucked them from my final draft without telling me).

I've no problem writing gay male (I haven't in detail) but if I did, I wouldn't consider that any more a fantasy than writing a character who eats people.

Incidentally, way back when when I first attempted to write anything, I wrote a three-hundred and fifty-thousand word story who had a villain who was bisexual, incestual (through force), a murderer, a master swordsmen, willing to fuck things not human (mythical creatures) there was no hardcore sex in this story, but it was mentioned in passing. All this before I read Game of Thrones, now though, you throw that out there and people think: Oh, I know where you got this from.

The thing is with the sex, I don't know how I would write it in some categories.

Like, non-con, straight rape: I don't think I would write for someone else to get excited over it, I think it would be an emotional abuse tale focusing on the despair of the situation.

Gay Male: It would probably be less intense and more mechanical for me, with sex being a part of the story rather than being the story (which when I write a sex story on a sex website, the story revolves around the sex). You might get one hell of a story (hopefully) but all actions/thoughts/scenarios led to sex.


I wrote stories in Sci-Fi/Fantasy, I/T, Horror, Erotic Couplings, Nonhuman, and I had Firstime, Humor, Lesbian, Group Sex, Exhibitionism/Voyeurism, Mind-control, Toys/Masturbation, Romance (thought I might be too pornographic for romance), Fetish, Interracial, Swinging (Loving Wives), Anal, BDSM, sprinkled throughout them. I had an almost Non-con situation (devil man with human man) but that was interrupted before the action started in the story.

This was my first post.

I have no interest in sending a PM, but if this is just a simple little question of 'what category don't you want to post in'....

The rest was banter and conversation. If you think that's me picking on someone, well, I'm not going to tip-toe around you because you get the shakes if someone breathes in your direction.

 

[KeithD]

I repeat that I see the whole exercise of launching a discussion board thread to discuss what you wouldn't write or read at Literotica and why is divisive and unconstructive and deserves the "mind your own business and leave the interests of others alone that are playing within the rules of the Web site" response. If KindofHere (who has no skin in this game at all, since he has no stories posted to Literotica) doesn't see derisiveness in his initial post, as an example, I think he's wooden headed. Can say the same in some of the other thread responses to the discussion. Just mind your own business and be glad if Literotica is open to your individual interests. There is no constructive need to pick at the interests of others here in contrast to anything at all.

 

[KindofHere]

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[KeithD]

See. Divisive. Not a constructive thread. Who gives a fuck what individuals don't want to write--other than to invite and involve put downs?

 

[KindofHere]

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[KeithD]

Well, we're going nowhere, everything between us has been addressed. Have a nice day.

I believe I put my thumb directly on my point about this thread. Who gives a fuck what anyone writes here within the rules other than to invite and involve put downs?

 

[KindofHere]

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[KeithD]

The OP itself contained coy put downs of both Gay Male and BDSM. Yes, I write GM and yes I saw smug jabs at GM running right through the thread (as well as BDSM, Loving Wives, nonconsent . . .) That just proves my point, buddy. Your problem is that it isn't your ox that's being gored, so it's fine with you--you can join the smug.

I repeat, who gives a fuck what someone chooses to read or write here within the rules of the site other than to invite and involve their own hobby horse put downs?

 

[CoffeeWithMonkeys]

I could never write incest. Won't read it, can't write it.

I've written a rape story. Not for here, but includes a rape and then stalking.

I've also started a gay male story even though I'm a female.

Pretty much I think I could write anything except incest.

 

[Axelotto]

I'm kind of in between on that.

On the one hand, I don't/won't can't write in some categories, but that's on me, not the categories.
On the second hand, its interesting to me to see what people will choose to write.
On the gripping hand, I dislike the catty snarks at categories the snarkist doesn't do themselves. And then when called on it, blame the irritated for being 'sensitive.'

Nah, fool, shut up if you can't be civil.

Especially if you've already upped-sticks and (1) pulled your stories off the site (2) purged your profile and modded your location to 'not writing here', and (3) replaced your bio with a statement to the effect of "I'm outta here!" Because that leads one to wonder why you're posting at all if not to stir the shit.

 

[KindofHere]

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[Gentleman_G]

I have no interest in sending a PM, but if this is just a simple little question of 'what category don't you want to post in'....

Um, why are you picking a reply to what he said to me? I didn't take any offense by that, so I feel it's unfair to KindOfHere when trying to make it seem like he's bashing me.

Who gives a fuck what individuals don't want to write--other than to invite and involve put downs?

Apparently the thread started gives a fuck? He is curious about it and asking people to tell him. That's, in my humble opinion, a very valid request. And people responded to him telling him, which seems like people actually want to satisfy his curiosity and believe it makes for an interesting exchange of information. And of course there will be some people who are a bit rough in their wording, but that's everywhere in the world. Most of us know not to take offense when that happens.

But, honestly, if you don't give a fuck, why are you reading it in the first place? Even more, replying to it stating that you think it's not a constructive thread. I think that is a non-constructive comment in the first place.
I'm not participating in the word association game-thread that I think it's a stupid thread, I just don't click on it. Because I don't give a fuck. Let people enjoy it when they post in it, I will find something else I do believe is interesting.

So, any thoughts about what category you wouldn't see yourself posting in? Please give an argument as to why, because - just like the thread starter, I am curious about why people would not post in a category.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Without replying to anyone in particular, I find it rather fascinating to see what other people here aren't interested and are interested in writing and to a certain extent why.

When I started writing here I had a couple of categories I wrote in (Interracial and First Time) and there wasn't anything else I was interested in but the longer Ive been writing here the more I find myself writing in categories that when I started I thought no way would I ever write something there. Incest and Non-Con/Reluctance being examples, Sci-Fi being another.

There's still categories I couldn't see myself writing, primarily because they don't so anything for me but I find it interested to compare my own likes and dislikes to others. Interracial being an example of that, it's probably my favorite category and maybe for most of us, the categories we pick to write in are because of our own interests and likes, rather than dislikes.

I don't see any need to get offended because someone doesn't like a particular category - and it's interesting to know. I don't get all upset because writers don't enjoy writing interracial or even find it offensive, and I know some do. That's my little kink and I enjoy it but I know there's lots that don't. Still, it's interesting.

Unlike Lovecraft, I enjoy non-con, but I find his reasoning as to why not interesting. I can see his POV but on that one, I have my own and there's a lot of non-con stories I enjoy.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't consider this thread to be divisive at all. I can't speak for anyone else, but I find it interesting to know which types of stories other authors don't want to write. It's interesting to know what the boundaries of other people's kinks and literary interests are.

I wrote before that I'm interested in all categories, but that's not quite true. I may at some point try my hand at all categories, but I'm not especially interested in celebrities. I can't remember the last time I read a story in that category.

 

[Etaski]

I get that feeling I'm a distinct minority here
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Probably not. This isn't a scientifically collected sample.

I'll write pretty much anything, and I have. The irony is that it's not obvious; it's still all in Sci-Fi/Fantasy in its own universe, and therefore, the kinks themselves have a long-term story element, and the character with the "category kink" has a role to play within a much broader tale. I see it that any owner of said kink has a light side and a dark side, and can be portrayed as such in my fantasy, and I want to explore that without fear getting in my way.

I understand I play with many ideas I'd never choose to do or support in my real life. I stand with many fellow horror fans on ideas of why we have always had fear and terror stories in our human collective. One of them is: if one can indulge in one's fear of the dark and learn more about self and community, it doesn't become compulsory in one's response to it. You own it, and you control it; not the other way around. (Plus the build of tension and dread followed by the release of tension can be like a runner's high.)

I don't get scared by what my mind comes up with, but I'm reminded that it's not something to launch in people's faces without warning, and it's best to put some of the scarier things at the beginning of a longer tale so readers can select for themselves whether to move past the first gate.

However, that doesn't mean I put "disclaimers" at the beginning that spoil the story, but hints of what's coming in the story itself. It's what I've grown to enjoy doing, and seems to work for those who want first to be immersed in a world for a while and not necessarily know all the sexual elements in advance. They're hard for me to separate into categories anyway. It's one, big block of human sexuality to me.

Sci-Fi/Fantasy can be a rather forgiving category in that respect if you create the world well enough.

 

[rutger5]

I can't see me posting in audio, reviews & essays or how to. Illustrated would require ability I don't possess and I don't work well with others which makes chain stories unlikely.

I have stories posted in at least 13 categories and I'd have no problem writing in those that I haven't yet if inspiration struck and I found the time. Maybe if I wrote any lesbian or gay stories in the future they might not come off as believable for the target audience but I figure at least some people might like and I couldn't get everything wrong.

No one should read or write what they don't want to but I don't understand some attitudes about what some can't write about. It is fiction and if a story goes to a bad place it is still just a story. If you don't want to write it then don't, but if you do, it doesn't make you bad. In my horror story posted here a child is the victim of human sacrifice and his mother is one of the people responsible after she falls under the sway of evil. Those certainly aren't my values but I can separate myself from the story.
To a degree I get the argument about you need to be turned on to write about sex but I think one can tap into one's personal desire while altering it for the scene. If you're straight you think about how a woman looks sexy in your mind but write how he looks sexy if you were writing about a gay character.

 

[Hypoxia]

In the bright world of the future, Manu's rewrites will replace categories with tags. Who will try writing for every tag?