Author tantrums

[Actingup]

I just came across this hissy-fit author profile, for 'Coopser':

"Binned this site off. It’s absolute dogshit. I’ll leave votes and comments on for the trolls to feel good about themselves lol
Write and rant whatever you want. I’ll never read it."

Coopser's five stories (all written in 2023) scored pretty well (all in the 4s), but three of them were posted in Loving Wives... perhaps not the kindest place to learn your skills? Anyway, I'm not here to give him a kicking despite his invitation, but just to ask if there have been any epic tantrums/departures over the years that eclipse this?

 

[pink_silk_glove]

 

[StillStunned]

I haven't come across any, but I've been tempted to write my own a few times.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I have occasionally noted a few lines in either the foreword or the authors notes, where the author is telling the trolls to just get over it. I'm sure it's borne of being raked over the coals by some vicious commenters.

"I know many of you hate a cuckold story, but I did warn you in the tags and for God's sake, it's just a f'ing story!"

 

[pink_silk_glove]

I have occasionally noted a few lines in either the foreword or the authors notes, where the author is telling the trolls to just get over it. I'm sure it's borne of being raked over the coals by some vicious commenters.

"I know many of you hate a cuckold story, but I did warn you in the tags and for God's sake, it's just a f'ing story!"

Yea, the best is "If you're not into (kink/element) don't read this."

1 ~ If a writer is going to be that defensive about his work, it's hardly enticing.

2 ~ If a writer wants to be so exclusionary, it's snobby as all fuck.

3 ~ It tells the reader "I don't care about what you get out of this. This is about me and what you think of me and if you're not willing to affirm my writing experience, just move along. You're no good to me"

 

[Bramblethorn]

Anyway, I'm not here to give him a kicking despite his invitation, but just to ask if there have been any epic tantrums/departures over the years that eclipse this?

I can recall a couple, but naming them would just create drama.

I will say that the louder the departure, the smaller the chances that they'll actually stay gone.

 

[Actingup]

I have occasionally noted a few lines in either the foreword or the authors notes, where the author is telling the trolls to just get over it. I'm sure it's borne of being raked over the coals by some vicious commenters.

"I know many of you hate a cuckold story, but I did warn you in the tags and for God's sake, it's just a f'ing story!"

I wrote 'it does take a while to get to any sex,' in the foreword to my one Loving Wives story last month. That kind of warning seems to be pretty common? Anyway, one comment was:

Nice story, but not enough on the back end, which was essentially just sex.

and then a bit later somebody wrote:

A good story, but not enough sex for this site.



I've been lucky though, nothing vicious so far, nothing to be too sensitive about.

 

[Plathfan]

His comment is quite ironic, especially since it clearly came after he had read all the feedback and felt disappointed.

Some people are just too thin-skinned to handle any form of criticism or negative input (possibly due to a lack of hugs and motherly affection, which might explain their need to seek refuge in fantasy in the first place). They often expect nothing but accolades and applause.

Apparently, he didn’t stick around long enough to realize he’s actually doing quite well by LW standards.

He’s right, though; there are friendlier and more positive spaces for writers, with strict comment and reader filtering, albeit with a smaller audience.

Like it or not, people are drawn to darkness; some even thrive on it.

 

[Cagivagurl]

Yea, the best is "If you're not into (kink/element) don't read this."

1 ~ If a writer is going to be that defensive about his work, it's hardly enticing.

2 ~ If a writer wants to be so exclusionary, it's snobby as all fuck.

3 ~ It tells the reader "I don't care about what you get out of this. This is about me and what you think of me and if you're not willing to affirm my writing experience, just move along. You're no good to me"

Or maybe it's simply being polite????
Offering a warning, knowing that the content may irritate some of the readers....
I see it less of a tantrum, and more as. "If you're not into this kink. Don't read it."

Cagivagurl

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Or maybe it's simply being polite????
Offering a warning, knowing that the content may irritate some of the readers....
I see it less of a tantrum, and more as. "If you're not into this kink. Don't read it."

Cagivagurl

It's the 'don't read this' which I think rubs people up the wrong way. Warning of content is one thing, but let the reader make up their own mind.

On the other hand, I have done similar myself, when I couldn't resist the snark:
"WARNING: if you just clicked on the list of Literotica Valentine's Day stories, please note that this story is in the Gay Male category. It contains men fucking each other, and also British English.

If either of those repulse you, please hit Back now. I have many other stories with only heterosexual or lesbian sex, but I'm afraid the Englishness is unavoidable."

Anyone put off by that level of arsiness is unlikely to appreciate the story. Matching the tone of a warning and story can work, I think.

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't poke around enough to find these things, but there have been some epic forum rants over the years. Odd how its usually over the same crowd in the same category.

Another thread displaying the anti-cuck LW crowd doing their best to drive people off.

But let's countdown to how long before someone comes in and talks about how we all imagine this. Or takes up the trolls mantra of telling people what they should write there.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I wrote 'it does take a while to get to any sex,' in the foreword to my one Loving Wives story last month. That kind of warning seems to be pretty common?

I've done the same, letting the reader know it's a slow burn story. Very acceptable and I think appreciated by the readers.

 

[Bazzle]

Yea, the best is "If you're not into (kink/element) don't read this."

1 ~ If a writer is going to be that defensive about his work, it's hardly enticing.

I practically always put that disclaimer in my stories. Because otherwise Anonymous complains that the girl is smoking/peeing/drunk?

 

[Actingup]

It's the 'don't read this' which I think rubs people up the wrong way. Warning of content is one thing, but let the reader make up their own mind.

On the other hand, I have done similar myself, when I couldn't resist the snark:
"WARNING: if you just clicked on the list of Literotica Valentine's Day stories, please note that this story is in the Gay Male category. It contains men fucking each other, and also British English.

If either of those repulse you, please hit Back now. I have many other stories with only heterosexual or lesbian sex, but I'm afraid the Englishness is unavoidable."

Anyone put off by that level of arsiness is unlikely to appreciate the story. Matching the tone of a warning and story can work, I think.

Oh crap, so now I need to put Australian English warnings on? It's hard enough working out whether to give metric / Imperial conversions or not

 

[Bazzle]

Oh crap, so now I need to put Australian English warnings on? It's hard enough working out whether to give metric / Imperial conversions or not

I have have enough problems going to for the right measurement. Let alone you guys with your rather useful metric system. What is 3/8th of inch when its at home?
One day I will get a Shelia to the dunny I guess.

 

[SimonDoom]

I've seen a few "tantrums." I won't name names. Usually it's from overreacting to criticism, sometimes trollish and sometimes justified.

It helps to have a thick skin here. No doubt about it. It also helps if you thoroughly accept that you cannot control what other people say, and you shouldn't try and shouldn't fret about it. Do your thing and don't worry about others.

 

[Actingup]

What is 3/8th of inch when its at home?

About a 1/26th of an average Lit penis.

 

[RetroFan]

I've seen a few "tantrums." I won't name names. Usually it's from overreacting to criticism, sometimes trollish and sometimes justified.

It helps to have a thick skin here. No doubt about it. It also helps if you thoroughly accept that you cannot control what other people say, and you shouldn't try and shouldn't fret about it. Do your thing and don't worry about others.

Sadly, it seems to happen a lot more lately in mainstream media, like the creators of, directors or actors from movies and TV shows that flopped and/or were subjected to negative criticism blaming critics and fans for not liking their film or show.

 

[SimonDoom]

Sadly, it seems to happen a lot more lately in mainstream media, like the creators of, directors or actors from movies and TV shows that flopped and/or were subjected to negative criticism blaming critics and fans for not liking their film or show.

The world is filled with misunderstood geniuses. You get some of that here, too.

 

[Erozetta]

I think my tantrum last year was justified.

Kinda sucks to have someone go from being blocked for harassing you in PMs to then harassing you on the board. It got compounded with people saying "It's a porn site, you can't expect any better behavior from the patrons." Which is a sentiment I vehemently disagree with.

The vast majority are adults behaving like adults who *checks notes* are, in fact, perfectly capable of behaving in a respectful manner toward other human beings. The ones who choose not to deserve to be called out for it.

 

[StillStunned]

I think my tantrum last year was justified.

Kinda sucks to have someone go from being blocked for harassing you in PMs to then harassing you on the board. It got compounded with people saying "It's a porn site, you can't expect any better behavior from the patrons." Which is a sentiment I vehemently disagree with.

The vast majority are adults behaving like adults who *checks notes* are, in fact, perfectly capable of behaving in a respectful manner toward other human beings. The ones who choose not to deserve to be called out for it.

We need a feature to generate a pop-up that says "This is a site for 18+. Judging by your behaviour you're not there yet. Please come back in a few years."

 

[MrStill]

Oh crap, so now I need to put Australian English warnings on? It's hard enough working out whether to give metric / Imperial conversions or not

Wait til they find out what side of the road we drive on...

 

[Rustyoznail]

One day I will get a Shelia to the dunny I guess.

Easiest way to get a Shelia to the dunny is to tell her she's going on a road trip...

I've seen some classic dummy spits here, but I just ignore them. I get enough drama at work without wading into the mire.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Wait til they find out what side of the road we drive on...

The wrong one?

-Rocco

 

[NoTalentHack]

Warnings are fine, even if I don't think they actually work that often. I've put them at the top of my non-LW content that my regular readers might find unpleasant and had them blatantly ignored, to the point where I said "This is not in LW," and had commenters say, "it's great to see a story like this in LW!" before.

What I think doesn't work is the tantrum-y, trolling warning + insult. "This story contains cuckolding content," is fine; some readers will still 1-bomb it and insult, but that's the nature of the site. "This story contains cuckolding content, and if you can't handle that, it's not my fault you're a weak-minded pussy that can't handle strong women," is 100% going to get people piling on who'd otherwise skip past.

The profile listed by OP is someone who, glancing through their stories, received a good rating on their hotwife story in E/V, did one in Loving Wives with just a skosh of humiliation/not-quite-gay content (which did remarkably well at 4.56 for a hotwife story), then decided he could get away with the full-on disrespect content he'd edged towards previously (breaking agreed-upon rules, insulting the husband, etc.), and got his wrist slapped for his troubles. Instead of dealing with the lower rating on that story (still a 4.14, a perfectly acceptable one) and the people who told him they didn't like the content/him for writing it, and getting a worse rating on the following one, he threw a fit.

I was listening to an audiobook on publishing last week, and one chapter in it was about the mindset needed to succeed as a writer. The number one thing the speaker discussed was being able to let criticism that's about the reader and not about your work roll off your back. If they're complaining about a structural thing that doesn't work, or maybe a clumsy metaphor or sentence construction, sure, that's worth paying attention to. But "I hate *insert genre/theme here* stuff" is all about them, not you, and you need to treat it as such.

Look, we all laugh at the guy with the raging fixation about shaved pussies, for example, because that's a "him" thing; if you're secure in your abilities and yourself, laughing off the folks who don't like any of your preferences needs to be just as easy. Flouncing with a "pithy" insult, or, worse, continually ranting on the forums that anyone who doesn't like the type of content you enjoy is a misogynist or a weak man is just... sad. Like, beyond fragile. Don't do that shit.