Australia's first cloned sheep dies

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SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) -- Australia's first cloned sheep has died despite being in apparent good health, but any chance of getting to the root of the mysterious death was lost when its decomposing carcass was cremated.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/02/07/aus.matilda.reut/index.html

So do you now think they may have rushed things by going for human clones? Or was this just one of those things?

What do you think?
 
Human clones? Have you been reading Frimost's threads again?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they find out after Dolly that when you clone an animal, that the baby's cells when it's born reflect the age of the cells taht were used for cloning? So if Dolly was 5 when she was cloned, her babies, while newborn... were 5 years old on a cellular level? I swear I read that somewhere. Is it hooey?
 
pagancowgirl said:
Human clones? Have you been reading Frimost's threads again?

Is it hooey?

No. "hooey" is the sound Killswitch's son makes when he spits a load of semen out of his mouth.
 
They're already trying to clone babies in Japan. And didn't they say a cloned baby was already born? Will have to research this some more. After all the trials and errors it took to create Dolly, I was hoping that those who want to try human cloning would think about that first.
 
Its sad...if there are human clones out there, the poor parents...they're just pawns in a political debate. And now with this, what they must fear for their own.
 
Problem Child said:
No. "hooey" is the sound Killswitch's son makes when he spits a load of semen out of his mouth.
ya know, I really should know better than to be sippin on a half melted frosty when reading posts....
 
pagancowgirl said:
Human clones? Have you been reading Frimost's threads again?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they find out after Dolly that when you clone an animal, that the baby's cells when it's born reflect the age of the cells taht were used for cloning? So if Dolly was 5 when she was cloned, her babies, while newborn... were 5 years old on a cellular level? I swear I read that somewhere. Is it hooey?

snort

no

I was just watching the news for once (kicked the kids off the tv and took control of it) and they did a story on this.
 
brokenbrainwave said:
ya know, I really should know better than to be sippin on a half melted frosty when reading posts....

You and me both. 'Cept it's diet coke, not a frosty.

Ummm... to whoever posted about the 'human clone' you need to read at www.clonaid.com ... and then consider that the guy supposedly got his technology from an alien species and will only answer questions when referred to as His Excellency... AND has a topknot on his head. The dude's kookier than Michael jackson.
 
pagancowgirl said:
You and me both. 'Cept it's diet coke, not a frosty.

Ummm... to whoever posted about the 'human clone' you need to read at www.clonaid.com ... and then consider that the guy supposedly got his technology from an alien species and will only answer questions when referred to as His Excellency... AND has a topknot on his head. The dude's kookier than Michael jackson.

most of my aunts and uncles are infertile, and regardless of the sermon accompanying the means, should I find myself in the same situation...its an incredibly desperate one, I wouldn't care where the remedy was coming from...just that there was hope.
 
pagancowgirl said:
Human clones? Have you been reading Frimost's threads again?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they find out after Dolly that when you clone an animal, that the baby's cells when it's born reflect the age of the cells taht were used for cloning? So if Dolly was 5 when she was cloned, her babies, while newborn... were 5 years old on a cellular level? I swear I read that somewhere. Is it hooey?

I know that Dolly was inexplicably mature. Your explanation sounds like a credible theory to me, but I never heard if anything had been determined. I didn't even know that they'd cloned one anywhere else.
 
Diablogrl said:
most of my aunts and uncles are infertile, and regardless of the sermon accompanying the means, should I find myself in the same situation...its an incredibly desperate one, I wouldn't care where the remedy was coming from...just that there was hope.

A good number of my parents side of the family were infertile. I have several adopted cousins. I was lucky that I am able to have children.

Edited to add: But that doesn't mean that my adopted cousins are loved any less. They are still part of the family.
 
Wyn,
I agree with you about adopted kids being cherished and loved in a family, but at least for me, there's this longing to have my own kids.

Did I even think about it when Clonaid made their annoncement? Hell yes.

Do I still do after reading what Clonaid believes? Yes, with reservations.
 
And off the subject (somewhat). Didn't Martha Stewart have stock in Clonaid? I shudder to think about what it would be like with several of her running around. :D I know the personality will be shaped by environment and other factors. I just can't stand that woman's taste in pastels.
 
Before the died I heard and audio recording of it.

Sheep: "I have a headache."

Doctor: "I think it's a tumor."

Sheep: "It's not a tuuuma!"


Turns out it was.
 
Perhaps it was a cover up....

Everytime I hear about cloning, my wandering mind drifts to the original Star Trek episode, "Space Seed".
Khan and his crew are products of the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s. In 1993, a group of supermen simultaneously seized power in more than 40 nations. Spock reveals to Kirk that his research has determined that that there were 80-90 supermen unaccounted for at the end of the war. This, together with Khan's extreme strength and physical prowess lead Kirk and Spock to wonder if there passenger might be one of the missing supermen. Through subtle questioning, Kirk gets Khan to inadvertently admit that he is one of the supermen when he blurts out "We offered the world order." Kirk and company look up Khan in the database and find him to have been the most dangerous of the supermen, and at one time to have ruled a quarter of the Earth.

It's just too conincidental, sheep....super race....sheep.....super race....
:D
 
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