Australian Catholic Trash Evicted From Earth

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Jan. 10 (UPI) -- Cardinal George Pell, whose convictions for sexually abusing a child were overturned, died Tuesday of health complications following routine hip surgery.

The Australian clergyman was in Rome, where he underwent hip replacement surgery. The National Catholic Register reported the surgery was successful but Pell was suspected of having gone into cardiac arrest afterward. He was 81.

Pell was appointed by Pope Francis to first prefect of the Secretariat for the Economy in 2014. In 2017, he faced multiple charges of child sex abuse stemming from his time as archbishop of Melbourne. He returned to Australia, where he was convicted and sentenced to six years in prison.

In 2020, the High Court of Australia overturned the convictions.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-...nal-george-pell-dies-australia/2251673393360/



Why?

We know why.

 

[JohnEngelman]

I am not a Roman Catholic. Nevertheless I love the Roman Catholic church. I am heart sick about the Roman Catholic priestly pedophile scandal. Roman Catholic clerical authorities need to understand that this is the most serious crises the Roman Catholic Church has faced since the Protestant Reformation.

I have read that 85% of the victims of Roman Catholic pedophile priests are boys. Because I do not believe that 85% of Roman Catholic priests are homosexuals this suggests to me that homosexuals are more likely to abuse minors than are heterosexuals. The mainstream media has not investigated this.

Years ago I read an article in The New York Times that said that most liberals do not want to read anything critical of homosexuals and blacks. Liberal journalists do not want to report anything bad about them either.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Recently I read that Voltaire was sexually abused by Roman Catholic priests while attending Catholic school as a boy. This explains his hostility toward the Roman Catholic Church.

I think the inclination of some Roman Catholic priests to abuse minors is the result of the Roman Catholic insistence on priestly celibacy. This is an insistence not found in the New Testament.

The Gospel According to Saint Mathew 8:14-15
And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.
And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them.

The Gospel According to Saint Luke 4:38-39
And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.

The insistence on priestly celibacy limits the number of men willing to become Roman Catholic priests. When a clerical authority has trouble with a priest, the priest is difficult to replace. The clerical authority has reason to keep giving the problem priest another chance, and then another chance, and so on.

I am an Episcopalian. Many more people graduate from Episcopal seminaries than the number who can find positions as priests. If a Episcopal bishop has problems with a priest it is easy to defrock him, report him to the police, and select a replacement from a large pile of resumes.

 

[ll74]

I have read that 85% of the victims of Roman Catholic pedophile priests are boys. Because I do not believe that 85% of Roman Catholic priests are homosexuals this suggests to me that homosexuals are more likely to abuse minors than are heterosexuals. The mainstream media has not investigated this.

They haven't investigated your conclusions because your conclusions are shit. You fail to take into account vows of celibacy and the fact that the Catholic clergy has typically always been male.

There's no evidence that being homosexual makes someone more likely to engage sexually with a minor.

 

[JohnEngelman]

They haven't investigated your conclusions because your conclusions are shit. You fail to take into account vows of celibacy and the fact that the Catholic clergy has typically always been male.

There's no evidence that being homosexual makes someone more likely to engage sexually with a minor.

Your first statement, "They haven't investigated your conclusions,"
explains your last statement, "There's no evidence that being homosexual makes someone more likely to engage sexually with a minor."

I suspect that there is some evidence. Nevertheless the paucity of investigations explains the paucity of evidence.

 

[ll74]

Your first statement, "They haven't investigated your conclusions,"

explains your last statement, "There's no evidence that being homosexual makes someone more likely to engage sexually with a minor."

I suspect that there is some evidence. Nevertheless the paucity of investigations explains the paucity of evidence.

That is a faulty argument you've made before and it's still bullshit. If you have no evidence to make your assertion, then you have no evidence to make it. It's not on anyone else to collect evidence for you nor does it infer that evidence exists but isn't being collected.

Your beliefs do not make something true.

And saying that an investigation is needed because of your beliefs doesn't mean that one isn't being done purposely in the face of your beliefs.

That entire line of thinking is laughable.

 

[JohnEngelman]

That is a faulty argument you've made before and it's still bullshit. If you have no evidence to make your assertion, then you have no evidence to make it. It's not on anyone else to collect evidence for you nor does it infer that evidence exists but isn't being collected.

Your beliefs do not make something true.

And saying that an investigation is needed because of your beliefs doesn't mean that one isn't being done purposely in the face of your beliefs.

That entire line of thinking is laughable.

Evidence for my hypothesis that homosexuals are more likely to abuse minors than heterosexuals consists of the fact I posted earlier that 85% of the victims of pedophile priests are boys.

I want more research into this matter, just as I want more research into the relationship between gene alleles, intelligence, crime, and race.

Those who impede the research fear the results and the political policies likely to emerge from the results.

I on the other hand welcome scientific research into these matters, and I have no fear of the results of that research.

 

[ll74]

Evidence for my hypothesis that homosexuals are more likely to abuse minors than heterosexuals consists of the fact I posted earlier that 85% of the victims of pedophile priests are boys.

I want more research into this matter, just as I want more research into the relationship between gene alleles, intelligence, crime, and race.

Those who impede the research fear the results and the political policies likely to emerge from the results.

I on the other hand welcome scientific research into these matters, and I have no fear of the results of that research.

That isn't evidence that homosexuals are more likely to engage in pedophilia. That is evidence that 85% out of the cases presented were boys being victimized by priests. Your leap of logic and failure to recognize it speaks volumes.

So do more research or work with others to have them do more. But don't make claims made on beliefs and then say it's true but no evidence exists for whatever reason.....that's faulty logic. If you can't support your claim with evidence than it's a hypothesis, not a fact or truth

 

[JohnEngelman]

Zero Abuse Project, Sexuality of Offenders

Science and case management experience has shown us that most child molesters are heterosexual. Abuse is about power and control and is not anchored by sexual orientation. Dr. Gene Abel, a researcher in the field of sexual violence for over twenty-five years, wrote an article for the average parent in Redbook magazine to take the knowledge he gained in doing over 100 scientific articles to provide specific warning signs for parents and caregivers. In this article, he explicitly states that most cases of boys being molested are attributed to heterosexuals.

"…[M]ost men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters we studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own."

https://www.zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/

This article inadvertently agrees with me. Because the percentage of men who are exclusively homosexual is much less than twenty one percent of the total male population, homosexuals are much more more likely to abuse minors than are heterosexuals.

This article illustrates how truths about homosexuals are concealed from the public.

 

[ll74]

Zero Abuse Project, Sexuality of Offenders

Science and case management experience has shown us that most child molesters are heterosexual. Abuse is about power and control and is not anchored by sexual orientation. Dr. Gene Abel, a researcher in the field of sexual violence for over twenty-five years, wrote an article for the average parent in Redbook magazine to take the knowledge he gained in doing over 100 scientific articles to provide specific warning signs for parents and caregivers. In this article, he explicitly states that most cases of boys being molested are attributed to heterosexuals.



https://www.zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/

This article inadvertently agrees with me. Because the percentage of men who are exclusively homosexual is much less than twenty one percent of the total male population, homosexuals are much more more likely to abuse minors than are heterosexuals.

This article illustrates how truths about homosexuals are concealed from the public.

Your beliefs are not supported by evidence. Whether you think this is purposeful or not is irrelevant.

Probably for the same reasons that nearly 80 percent of rapes and sexual assaults go unreported, according to a Justice Department analysis of violent crime in 2016.

From https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...al-assault-remains-dramatically-underreported

The report they refer to is https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv16.pdf

Both are outdated so this may have improved since 2016, due to movements in culture, but relevant to the discussion.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Your beliefs are not supported by evidence. Whether you think this is purposeful or not is irrelevant.



From https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...al-assault-remains-dramatically-underreported

The report they refer to is https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv16.pdf

Both are outdated so this may have improved since 2016, due to movements in culture, but relevant to the discussion.

Nothing in either of those links compares the percentage of homsexuals guilty of rape and statutory rape with the percentage of heterosexuals guilty of these crimes.

I suspect that males who are abused by homosexuals are less willing to report it then are females, because they think that others will think a teenage boy or a man should fight back.

 

[ll74]

Nothing in either of those links compares the percentage of homsexuals guilty of rape and statutory rape with the percentage of heterosexuals guilty of these crimes.

I suspect that males who are abused by homosexuals are less willing to report it, because they think that others will think a teenage boy or a man should fight back.

You make a lot of assumptions without evidence.

Good job.

Do you suspect that females somehow are more willing to report an adult abuser? If so, why?

 

[JohnEngelman]

You make a lot of assumptions without evidence.

Good job.

Do you suspect that females somehow are more willing to report an adult abuser? If so, why?

The paucity of evidence is due to the sanctions and taboos against looking for it. I welcome more research in to the matter. The evidence I have posted thus far indicates that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to be guilty of statutory rape.

 

[ll74]

The paucity of evidence is due to the sanctions and taboos against looking for it. I welcome more research in to the matter. The evidence I have posted thus far indicates that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to be guilty of statutory rape.

Again, you assume the evidence isn't there because people refuse to do it because they are being silenced.

Nothing you have posted so far, even with your own admission of the lack of evidence, has proved that homosexuals are more apt to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

Welcome whatever you want....your claims are unsubstantiated and you know it. You're so used to cherry picking that you don't even know that you're doing it

 

[JohnEngelman]

Again, you assume the evidence isn't there because people refuse to do it because they are being silenced.

Nothing you have posted so far, even with your own admission of the lack of evidence, has proved that homosexuals are more apt to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

Welcome whatever you want....your claims are unsubstantiated and you know it. You're so used to cherry picking that you don't even know that you're doing it

I have pointed out that one study claims that 85% of victims of pedophile priests were boys. According to study you linked to 21% of child molesters were exclusively homosexuals. That is sufficient evidence for more research into this matter. I am in favor of the research. Are you?

 

[ll74]

I have pointed out that one study claims that 85% of victims of pedophile priests were boys. According to study you linked to 21% of child molesters were exclusively homosexuals. That is sufficient evidence for more research into this matter. I am in favor of the research. Are you?

I personally don't care whether a sexual predator is hetero or homo sexual. They all should be prosecuted and punished according to their crimes.

There has been no evidence to suggest either way and the majority of sexual violence against minors goes unreported. You can believe whatever you want, but should admit that your claim is unsubstantiated.