"Austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State?"

[Dumpington]

Can you imagine the Washington Post writing a glowing obituary for Adolf Hitler following his death in April of 1945? "Valiant Fighter & Fuhrer of German State Dies of Gunshot Wound at the Age of 56?" Well, HERE'S how that newspaper wrote up the death of murderous ISIS war criminal Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi:

"Austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State, dies at 48!"

Are they #$@%$#@ SERIOUS? President Trump was a LOT less respectful in describing al-Baghdadi's demise:

President Trump: "“He died like a dog, he died like a coward!”

Baghdadi’s execution at the hands of American special forces marks the death of the world’s most dangerous terrorist since Osama Bin Laden was taken-out back in 2011. Baghdadi, the founder of the Islamic State (aka: ISIS), oversaw the murders of innocent Americans James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Peter Kassig and Kayla Mueller - in addition to the slaughtering of hundreds more.

But the obituary from the liberal, Trump-hating Washington Post described this despicable killer as: an “austere religious scholar.” While the Post eventually altered that headline somewhat, it was nothing short of astounding at how well-disposed they were towards the ISIS leader’s academic credentials and career building his vast terrorist empire responsible for torturing countless innocent people, waiting until the 40th paragraph of their obituary to mention that Baghdadi was also a serial rapist for much of the last decade.

“Later, former hostages would reveal that Mr. Baghdadi also kept a number of personal sex slaves during his years as the Islamic State’s leader, including slain American hostage Kayla Mueller and a number of captured Yazidi women. U.S. officials corroborated the accounts,” the Post sorrowfully admitted.

 

[magicalmoments]

He wasn't executed, he committed suicide.
Spin this anyway you want but the facts remain the facts.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm sure that when the time comes, their obituary of Trump will meet everyone's approval.

 

[Adre]

What’s with Trump and the dying like a dog thing? WTF does that mean, dogs die some special way or some shit? What a moron.

 

[Dumpington]

magicalmoments writes: "He wasn't executed, he committed suicide. Spin this anyway you want but the facts remain the facts."

Yes, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi & Adolf Hitler both committed suicide - that's NOT the point! I'm asking WHY did the Washington Post choose to eulogize this mass-murdering killer & rapist as an "austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State?"

Would YOU have eulogized Adolf Hitler as the: "brilliant military mastermind who headed the German government for twelve years?" No, not unless you ADMIRED the man! WHAT were the weirdos at the Washington Post even thinking?

phrodeau adds: "I'm sure that when the time comes, their obituary of Trump will meet everyone's approval."

Yes, phrodeau - I almost forgot that you're one of the "Trump is Hitler" crowd who hates the idea of seeing America being made great again.

Adre writes: "What’s with Trump and the dying like a dog thing? WTF does that mean, dogs die some special way or some shit? What a moron."

In the Islamic world, there's nothing lower than a dog. I'm pretty sure that President Trump went out of his way to insult the man in a way that every Muslim will readily understand! But yes, the liberal/progressive Trump-haters will howl in anguish that the ISIS leader wasn't shown greater respect!

 

[magicalmoments]

The fact is he committed suicide. He was not executed.
If your point is something different then lead with that and not a lie.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What’s with Trump and the dying like a dog thing? WTF does that mean, dogs die some special way or some shit? What a moron.

Dogs are seen as unclean pests and hated in most muslim cultures, especially the fundamentalist ones like ISIS.

Saying someone died like a dog is an exceptional insult in their culture.....smart guy.

 

[phrodeau]

"Yes, phrodeau - I almost forgot that you're one of the "Trump is Hitler" crowd who hates the idea of seeing America being made great again."

You "almost forgot." What a liar you are.

 

[magicalmoments]

#7 above.
Are you suggesting trump came up with the analogy?
Somehow I doubt it, we've all see his writing ability and anyway I doubt his knowledge of Islam is any more extensive than "Moslem bad, Mexican rapist".
I'd say there's a smart speech writer out in the west wing, or maybe at the pentagon, but I feel fairly confident that trump didn't come up with it.

 

[Dumpington]

magicalmoments writes: "The fact is he committed suicide. He was not executed. If your point is something different then lead with that and not a lie."

Speaking of lies, it WASN'T simply a suicide, as you seemingly insist - Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi committed a MURDER/suicide, taking three innocent children with him! But this child-murderer was described by the Washington Post as an "austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State!"

It makes you wonder just HOW MANY austere Islamic religious scholars murder children in the course of their careers?

BotanyBoy writes: "Dogs are seen as unclean pests and hated in most muslim cultures, especially the fundamentalist ones like ISIS."

Which just makes me love dogs that much MORE!

phrodeau writes: "You "almost forgot." What a liar you are."

Now, now, phrodeau - don't get upset! Many political-progressives seriously believe that ANYBODY who supports President Trump must be either a racist or a white supremacist. And they REFUSE to acknowledge the fact that most Antifa protesters are emasculated American Nazis.

 

[JackLuis]

Dump, the NYT is known for their erudition and high moral tone. If they had called Baghdaddi a "vile loathsome adherent of a hideous religion that exalts in perfidy," they'd be just a common fish wrapper!

Rupert expects more from his lackeys!

 

[phrodeau]

”It makes you wonder just HOW MANY austere Islamic religious scholars murder children in the course of their careers?”

I thought you knew that already.

 

[magicalmoments]

The fact remains he was not executed. You were wrong, again & again & again ad infinitum.

I guess you've given as good an apology as we're ever going to get and on behalf of the board, I accept.

Just be careful about using facts, real ones, not alternative facts, in the future.

 

[PrincepsCyberius]

The fact is he committed suicide. He was not executed.
If your point is something different then lead with that and not a lie.

I think the question becomes: "What is your point?"

If, like Hitler, al-Baghdadi committed suicide rather than be taken prisoner, is that not functionally the same as US forces killing him, only without any of the legal issues raised by an "execution"? An all around good thing, wouldn't you say?

 

[BotanyBoy]

#7 above.
Are you suggesting trump came up with the analogy?
Somehow I doubt it, we've all see his writing ability and anyway I doubt his knowledge of Islam is any more extensive than "Moslem bad, Mexican rapist".
I'd say there's a smart speech writer out in the west wing, or maybe at the pentagon, but I feel fairly confident that trump didn't come up with it.

No I'm suggesting he used it to be intentionally insulting.

Obviously so to anyone who knows much about fundamentalist Islamic culture....clearly that's not Adre.

 

[dan_c00000]

Baghdadi’s execution

He wasn't executed. He committed suicide, supposedly.

In all of this, racist dawn, you and your alts have missed the fact that Trump is still going to keep US troops there so we can get that oil.

 

[My I]

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[magicalmoments]

#15 above.
What I'm suggesting is that the analogy had to be explained to trump so he could read it convincingly.

As someone else has pointed out, the bible also contains these negative references to dogs. Must have been a common cultural belief through the Middle East when the prophets and priests were writing this crap.

 

[BotanyBoy]

#15 above.
What I'm suggesting is that the analogy had to be explained to trump so he could read it convincingly.

Yea yea orange man bad.

As someone else has pointed out, the bible also contains these negative references to dogs. Must have been a common cultural belief through the Middle East when the prophets and priests were writing this crap.

Up until modern times most cultures saw dogs and cats like that, flea bag, disease spreading scavengers.

Because that's what they've been around most the world for most of human history.

 

[Dumpington]

JackLuis writes: "Dump, the NYT is known for their erudition and high moral tone. If they had called Baghdaddi a "vile loathsome adherent of a hideous religion that exalts in perfidy," they'd be just a common fish wrapper!"

There may be some truth in what you're trying to say, Jack, but when Osama bin Laden died did they refer to HIM as an "austere religious scholar" who just so happened to order an attack that murdered over three-thousand innocent American civilians?

phrodeau writes: "I thought you knew that already."

I can't believe that you're actually equating the Islamic religion with terrorist attacks on children, phrodeau - most of your liberal/progressive Democrats tend to treat Muslims with kid-gloves, as if they'd never even think of blowing-up an innocent child! (But the rest of us know better)

magicalmoments writes: "The fact remains he was not executed."

The fact remains that al-Baghdadi crawled into a hole crying like a little bitch, and then blew-up three innocent children (in addition to himself) - which as phrodeau has pointed out, is only something to be expected from an "austere Islamic religious scholar!"

PrincepsCyberius writes: "If, like Hitler, al-Baghdadi committed suicide rather than be taken prisoner, is that not functionally the same as US forces killing him, only without any of the legal issues raised by an "execution"? An all around good thing, wouldn't you say?"

Excellent points all around. The only difference I can think of is that Hitler didn't blow-up three children while committing his own suicide.

dan_c00000 writes: "He wasn't executed. He committed suicide, supposedly."

AND he crawled into his hole, crying like a little bitch. Don't forget that part, Dan!

BotanyBoy writes: "Yea yea orange man bad."

Trump committed an impeachable offense when he defeated Hillary Clinton back on November 8, 2016 - unfortunately (for Democrats) the U.S. Senate won't EVER be persuaded to play along with that bizarre line of reasoning.

 

[phrodeau]

You don’t even know what “austere” means.

 

[Dumpington]

phrodeau writes: "You don’t even know what “austere” means."

Serious question - when YOU think of murderous Islamic terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden and/or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (or even Adolf Hitler), is the first word that comes to your mind: "AUSTERE," phrodeau?

Perhaps you do. I've never discussed genocidal killers with you before, so maybe that's EXACTLY your take on their behavior. I really don't know.

I, myself, think that "murderous" is a more apt description, and if I had to describe Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's final moments on this earth I'd probably use phrases like "whimpering & crying like a little bitch as he tried to crawl deeper into his hole!"

I suspect that Islamic U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar (D-MN) would take offense at this kind of wording, and she probably wouldn't want anyone to add anything about him blowing up three innocent children as he tried to kill himself. That just sounds excessively cowardly, doesn't it?

 

[JackLuis]

JackLuis writes: "Dump, the NYT is known for their erudition and high moral tone. If they had called Baghdaddi a "vile loathsome adherent of a hideous religion that exalts in perfidy," they'd be just a common fish wrapper!"

There may be some truth in what you're trying to say, Jack, but when Osama bin Laden died did they refer to HIM as an "austere religious scholar" who just so happened to order an attack that murdered over three-thousand innocent American civilians?

No, because Osama was not a Islamic Scholar he was a raging terrorist who thought the USA had defiled the Holy Kingdom.

 

[Dumpington]

JackLuis writes: "No, because Osama was not a Islamic Scholar he was a raging terrorist who thought the USA had defiled the Holy Kingdom."

Yes, Osama bin Laden was a certified piece of shit - but so is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi!

I remember when news reports first began coming out about ISIS (aka: the Islamic State) - they were saying even Al Qaeda wanted nothing to do with those murderous loonies!

As I see it, NONE of the Islamic terrorist leaders should be given respectful obituaries after we've blown them to smithereens, and headlining Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's death with "Austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State, dies at 48" is just ridiculous!

President Trump declared that Baghdadi died “whimpering” and “dying like a dog,” which I feel sums it all up nicely! Of course, liberal Trump-hating news outlets bashed the president for supposedly not giving top Democrats a heads up about the impending attack. They extended to Trump NONE of the laudatory coverage President Barack Obama received in the wake of the 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden.

Also, Obama’s efforts against ISIS were hampered by the White House’s caution and micromanagement. Trump unleashed the U.S. military. He loosened the rules of engagement and took a hands-off approach to the operations planned by the soldiers, Marines and airmen tasked with the job, resulting in the rout of the caliphate.

Right now, all of those who winked or cheered when Obama used bin Laden as a campaign prop but who now denigrate Trump for treating Baghdadi’s deserved end as a personal triumph need to shut up.

 

[phrodeau]

The Politics Board isn’t your personal bigoted Islamaphobic hate mirror.