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Consider yourself fortunate that you have learned a very valuable lesson regarding the practice of law both early in the infancy of your career and in the relative anonymity of cyber space. "Legal advice is worth exactly what you pay for it." "Clients lie with great regularity" "Extending the hand of knowledge and wisdom will get you bitten on the ass every time."
I have practiced the noble profession for over 25 years and it never fails. The one person whom you attempt to help out of the kindness of your heart will turn around and try to rip out your throat.
Your duty to your client is premised on a contractual relationship. Your fiduciary responsibility is premised on your being retained to represent the client's interest. Although gratuitous advice can cause problems, you owe the benficiary of your advice sound legal information founded in fact and law. If the facts are not valid, the legal advice can be no more valid.
In order to be sued for malpractice, there must be an actual warm body in Court seeking redress. A phantom of cyberspace will be hard pressed to assert a valid and compensible claim on the illusory realm of this board.
Learn your lesson, represent your client's to your utmost ability and realize that there is no law against being an asshole. Your detractor fits that description aptly and well.
I have practiced the noble profession for over 25 years and it never fails. The one person whom you attempt to help out of the kindness of your heart will turn around and try to rip out your throat.
Your duty to your client is premised on a contractual relationship. Your fiduciary responsibility is premised on your being retained to represent the client's interest. Although gratuitous advice can cause problems, you owe the benficiary of your advice sound legal information founded in fact and law. If the facts are not valid, the legal advice can be no more valid.
In order to be sued for malpractice, there must be an actual warm body in Court seeking redress. A phantom of cyberspace will be hard pressed to assert a valid and compensible claim on the illusory realm of this board.
Learn your lesson, represent your client's to your utmost ability and realize that there is no law against being an asshole. Your detractor fits that description aptly and well.
What is someone going to do:
Innocent Angel
v.
The Person on Literotica.com
a/k/a "Siren, Seductress of the
Seven Seas"
Now Comes Plaintiff, Innocent angel, by and through legal counsel, (Yayati) and states her complaint as follows:
1. Innocent Angel is a card-carrying member of Literotica.com/forum.
2. Siren, aka, seductress of the Seven Seas, AKA "the Big Hot Tuna" (mostly out of earshot) is an attorney in the state of Atlantis, and while not germane to the issues at hand, has allegedly tied third parties to the mast. (An act amounting to battery and false imprisonment).
3. Literotica.com, among other things, has a “general board” in which persons such as the plaintiff and the defendant may place varying dialog, commentary, and other banter.
4. On or about August 6, 2002, Plaintiff posted the following:
okay okay, i'm 20 years old and my mom made me my first gyn appointment oh joy. it's all devilboy's fault, if he didnt have sex with me almost two years ago my mom would have never figured out eventually i am not a virgin, hey i did wait until i'm 19, thats good compared to my friends, but anyway she is going on and on about not wanting to be a grandmother at 48, um well she is not get any younger.
i'm terrified to go, i have since i was 12, i read an article and it told me all the terrifying things they want to stick in my special places. i'm scared i dont want to go what exactly will happen?
is there any special rituals i must perform? um i'm scared and no one can hold my hands, some please let me know before tomorrow night.
thanks angie
(Emphasis added)
5. Defendant, recklessly, intentionally, or negligently posted the following: "Answer me this please..........if you are 20 years old.........how can your mom MAKE you do ANYTHING?"
6. Defendant went on to post: "sounds like abuse. wtf is going on there? where is the mutual respect? why cant you drive? can you work? this is not kosher...... doesnt this bother anyone else?"
7. Incredibly, the defendant continued this negligent, reckless or intentional diatribe when she queried of the plaintiff: “what is your handicap sweetie?”
8. The defendant recklessly, negligently, and intentionally offered to give the plaintiff “legal advice” if she “Pm'ed” her. The defendant later publicly doubted the veracity of several statements in the plaintiff's story.
9. LordKronos identified a breech (sic) of legal advice He stated “[e]ither way you would be in breech for calling her a liar publically and suddenly refusing to help her.”
10. Thereinafter and thereprior several people were accused of lying and being fuckwads.
11. Plaintiff seeks damages in excess of $25,000 for attempted infliction of legal advice.
_________________________
YAYATI
COUNSEL FOR PLAINTIFF
1234 YADA YADA LANE
ABORD THE MONITOR
BANGLEDESH
Innocent Angel
v.
The Person on Literotica.com
a/k/a "Siren, Seductress of the
Seven Seas"
Now Comes Plaintiff, Innocent angel, by and through legal counsel, (Yayati) and states her complaint as follows:
1. Innocent Angel is a card-carrying member of Literotica.com/forum.
2. Siren, aka, seductress of the Seven Seas, AKA "the Big Hot Tuna" (mostly out of earshot) is an attorney in the state of Atlantis, and while not germane to the issues at hand, has allegedly tied third parties to the mast. (An act amounting to battery and false imprisonment).
3. Literotica.com, among other things, has a “general board” in which persons such as the plaintiff and the defendant may place varying dialog, commentary, and other banter.
4. On or about August 6, 2002, Plaintiff posted the following:
okay okay, i'm 20 years old and my mom made me my first gyn appointment oh joy. it's all devilboy's fault, if he didnt have sex with me almost two years ago my mom would have never figured out eventually i am not a virgin, hey i did wait until i'm 19, thats good compared to my friends, but anyway she is going on and on about not wanting to be a grandmother at 48, um well she is not get any younger.
i'm terrified to go, i have since i was 12, i read an article and it told me all the terrifying things they want to stick in my special places. i'm scared i dont want to go what exactly will happen?
is there any special rituals i must perform? um i'm scared and no one can hold my hands, some please let me know before tomorrow night.
thanks angie
(Emphasis added)
5. Defendant, recklessly, intentionally, or negligently posted the following: "Answer me this please..........if you are 20 years old.........how can your mom MAKE you do ANYTHING?"
6. Defendant went on to post: "sounds like abuse. wtf is going on there? where is the mutual respect? why cant you drive? can you work? this is not kosher...... doesnt this bother anyone else?"
7. Incredibly, the defendant continued this negligent, reckless or intentional diatribe when she queried of the plaintiff: “what is your handicap sweetie?”
8. The defendant recklessly, negligently, and intentionally offered to give the plaintiff “legal advice” if she “Pm'ed” her. The defendant later publicly doubted the veracity of several statements in the plaintiff's story.
9. LordKronos identified a breech (sic) of legal advice He stated “[e]ither way you would be in breech for calling her a liar publically and suddenly refusing to help her.”
10. Thereinafter and thereprior several people were accused of lying and being fuckwads.
11. Plaintiff seeks damages in excess of $25,000 for attempted infliction of legal advice.
_________________________
YAYATI
COUNSEL FOR PLAINTIFF
1234 YADA YADA LANE
ABORD THE MONITOR
BANGLEDESH
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Mr. Bootie
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My Sexy Seductredess Siren.
Yeah, I know you don't like cyber hugs or compliments. But you are getting them from me regardless. *wink* So just humbly take them and do not argue with me. *wink and grin*.
Yes, you may not be a lawyer on lit Hon', but you will never EVER be just "someone that posts on literotica and that is all I am". You are so much more sexy seductress. *smiles* You mean a lot more than that to me, and I know of a few others that feel the same way.
Now come here and get your (((HUGS))) and ***KISSES**
Ah ah ah!!!!! Shhhhhhh!!!! No arguing. Only lawyers argue. Bring me them there lips. ( YES!! *wink* All of those lips *weg* )
Love ya' Siren.
kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"
Siren said:
Yeah, I know you don't like cyber hugs or compliments. But you are getting them from me regardless. *wink* So just humbly take them and do not argue with me. *wink and grin*.
Yes, you may not be a lawyer on lit Hon', but you will never EVER be just "someone that posts on literotica and that is all I am". You are so much more sexy seductress. *smiles* You mean a lot more than that to me, and I know of a few others that feel the same way.
Now come here and get your (((HUGS))) and ***KISSES**
Ah ah ah!!!!! Shhhhhhh!!!! No arguing. Only lawyers argue. Bring me them there lips. ( YES!! *wink* All of those lips *weg* )
Love ya' Siren.
kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"
Sandia
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Good advice, Bobman.
And here I was going to make a joke.
Wtf, I'll make it anyway:
PLEASE DIRECT ALL LEGAL QUESTIONS TO SANDIA.
I have a law license in all fifty states, and in every country in the world.
The first thing I'd like to discuss is
------>$$$$$ MY FEE $$$$$<-------
...and then we'll discuss what you look like nekkid. Really.
Sandia.
That's assuming you're a girl.
Sandia.
Or a very pretty boy.
It's always a bad sign, when I'm laughing at myself.
And here I was going to make a joke.
Wtf, I'll make it anyway:
PLEASE DIRECT ALL LEGAL QUESTIONS TO SANDIA.
I have a law license in all fifty states, and in every country in the world.
The first thing I'd like to discuss is
------>$$$$$ MY FEE $$$$$<-------
...and then we'll discuss what you look like nekkid. Really.
Sandia.
That's assuming you're a girl.
Sandia.
Or a very pretty boy.
It's always a bad sign, when I'm laughing at myself.
"gee thanks......
I guess I am a stupid fucker after all.
More proof.......
I will keep my goddamn mouth shut."
Your are not a "stupid fucker" at all. You attempted to reach out and help a person in need. Unfortunately, in our business good intentions are the path to hell.
It only took me about 15 years to figure it out. My statements were only meant to show that we who have chosen this path have more road blocks than are usually imagined.
As you probadly well know, no one learns from winning a law suit. Only losing guarantees knowledge.
You are to be commended for your ill fated attempt to aid your fellow man. It is just a shame that you now feel attacked. "No good deed goes unpunished."
I guess I am a stupid fucker after all.
More proof.......
I will keep my goddamn mouth shut."
Your are not a "stupid fucker" at all. You attempted to reach out and help a person in need. Unfortunately, in our business good intentions are the path to hell.
It only took me about 15 years to figure it out. My statements were only meant to show that we who have chosen this path have more road blocks than are usually imagined.
As you probadly well know, no one learns from winning a law suit. Only losing guarantees knowledge.
You are to be commended for your ill fated attempt to aid your fellow man. It is just a shame that you now feel attacked. "No good deed goes unpunished."
cg_allstar
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There have been several posts over the past few weeks that have pointed out the ridiculous level of litigiousness in this country. I think this may be one of the best. Here's couple things that struck me about this one.
I know you were only trying to help Innocent Angel, but you immediately flew off the handle and were talking about suing the doctor as I recall. Now someone is talking about suing you for that. I think that's kind of funny in an ironic kind of way.
See those words colored in red. They're misspelled. It is LYING. It is also DEFAMATION from the verb DEFAME. Jeez, doesn't anyone use a dictionary? More than that, I find if kind of funny that a lawyer would run screaming from someone who probably didn't pay as much attention in school as he should have. I guess that's proof that anyone can sue anyone else for anything now, whether there's merit or not.
Oh, well. That's enough sociopolitical commentary from me. After all, what do I know?
Siren said:
I know you were only trying to help Innocent Angel, but you immediately flew off the handle and were talking about suing the doctor as I recall. Now someone is talking about suing you for that. I think that's kind of funny in an ironic kind of way.
LordKronos said:
See those words colored in red. They're misspelled. It is LYING. It is also DEFAMATION from the verb DEFAME. Jeez, doesn't anyone use a dictionary? More than that, I find if kind of funny that a lawyer would run screaming from someone who probably didn't pay as much attention in school as he should have. I guess that's proof that anyone can sue anyone else for anything now, whether there's merit or not.
Oh, well. That's enough sociopolitical commentary from me. After all, what do I know?
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Re: all star
ut-oh Siren is taking the gloves off............I think I will gently step back away from the thread.
Siren said:you dont know shit.
fuck off.
and you prove my point about people having disdain for attorneys.
now, get the fuck outta my thread.
Do I sound like a bitch?
YOu bet your ass,
I aint in the mood for your kind of shit today.
You picked the wrong time to be ironic
and sarcastic with me.
ut-oh Siren is taking the gloves off............I think I will gently step back away from the thread.
cg_allstar
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now, get the fuck outta my thread.
Or what, you'll sue me?
My post wasn't directed at you. The only time your name appears is where it says "Originally posted by...". My post was meant as a commentary on what I see has become a major problem in this country. My disdain rests on both the clients seeking an easy buck and the lawyers who are happy to help them. It does not extend to you.
I appologize for upsetting you. My post wasn't intended to do that. I commend you for looking out for the interests of people who are being taken advantage of. There are way too few of that kind of people, if you ask me.
Or what, you'll sue me?
My post wasn't directed at you. The only time your name appears is where it says "Originally posted by...". My post was meant as a commentary on what I see has become a major problem in this country. My disdain rests on both the clients seeking an easy buck and the lawyers who are happy to help them. It does not extend to you.
I appologize for upsetting you. My post wasn't intended to do that. I commend you for looking out for the interests of people who are being taken advantage of. There are way too few of that kind of people, if you ask me.
Siren said:you dont know shit.
fuck off.
and you prove my point about people having disdain for attorneys.
now, get the fuck outta my thread.
Do I sound like a bitch?
YOu bet your ass,
I aint in the mood for your kind of shit today.
You picked the wrong time to be ironic
and sarcastic with me.
cg_allstar
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Oh. I see it now. I'm very sorry. Trust me, it really wasn't intended as an atack on you. Although, reading it again, I admit it certainly could be taken that way.
I tend to think of my broader, philosophical posts as being intended for everyone reading the thread, sometimes more so than the origninator. That was intended to illustrate how quickly and easily people talk of suing someone, and what a viscious cycle it has become.
Again, my apologies for upsetting you. I'm not here to get into fights with people. Now, has anyone seen my erection? I seem to have lost it.
I tend to think of my broader, philosophical posts as being intended for everyone reading the thread, sometimes more so than the origninator. That was intended to illustrate how quickly and easily people talk of suing someone, and what a viscious cycle it has become.
Again, my apologies for upsetting you. I'm not here to get into fights with people. Now, has anyone seen my erection? I seem to have lost it.
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