ASHCROFT IS OUT. The ass who appointed him isn't, but still..

Who is likely to be appointed Attorney General in Ashcroft's place?

  • Jesus Christ

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • The Reverend Al Sharpton

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A Buddhist, or perhaps an Orthodox rabbi

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Some neocon so inconcievably evil, he'll make us miss this other Nazi.

    Votes: 20 90.9%

  • Total voters
    22

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This is as close to glee as it's possible for me to feel during any minute that includes a thought of Bush/Cheney.
 
Of course, I also felt pretty good when Ashcroft lost his Senate race to a dead candidate four years ago.

Payback was a bitch.

Rummy is history, too, btw. But he's been off the radar for a while.
 
Couture said:
Ashcroft just resigned. Then Shereads had orgasm when she saw it on TV.

No, an orgasm would be more like this:

Ashcroft is GOINNNNGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!
 
Too bad it didn't read 'Ashcroft is outed'. That woulda been rad.
 
If this works properly, here is a news item:


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Bush Cabinet Shakeup Begins

WASHINGTON, Nov. 9, 2004



Ashcroft, Evans, Resign


U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and Commerce Secretary Don Evans (Photo: AP)



(CBS/AP) Attorney General John Ashcroft, a favorite of conservatives, and Commerce Secretary Don Evans, one of President Bush's closest friends, resigned Tuesday, the first members of the Cabinet to leave as Bush heads from re-election into his second term.

Both Ashcroft and Evans have served in Bush's Cabinet from the start of the administration.

Ashcroft, in a five-page, handwritten letter to Bush, said, "The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved."

"Yet I believe that the Department of Justice would be well served by new leadership and fresh inspiration," said Ashcroft, whose health problems earlier this year resulted in removal of his gall bladder.

"I believe that my energies and talents should be directed toward other challenging horizons," he said. Ashcroft's letter was dated Nov. 2, Election Day.

Ashcroft is the highest ranking cabinet leader on the war on terror to leave the administration, reports CBS News Correspondent Wyatt Andrews. Ashcroft helped plot the strategy for internal security after 9/11. He was often front man announcing the change in threat levels facing the country, and the man who detained thousands of mostly Muslim immigrants believing that strategy would catch anyone else planning to attack. Critics accused Ashcroft of civil rights violations but there was no second attack, Andrews reports.

Several names have emerged as possible successors to Ashcroft. The biggest is Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York. Another is former deputy attorney general Larry Thompson. Following the Sept. 11 attacks, Thompson headed the National Security Coordination Council and was appointed to head the president's corporate crime taskforce. An African-American and a strong conservative, Thompson could appeal to several constituencies.

The chairman of the Bush-Cheney campaign, former Montana Governor Mark Racicot as also made the mentioned list, as has United Nations Ambassador John F. Danforth, who also come up as a candidate for Secretary of State Colin Powell's job. Finally, there's White House general counsel Alberto Gonzales, a Hispanic.

Evans, a longtime friend from Texas, wrote Bush, "While the promise of your second term shines bright, I have concluded with deep regret that it is time for me to return home."

One name being mentioned for Evans' job at Commerce is Mercer Reynolds, national finance chairman for the Bush campaign, who raised more than $260 million to get him re-elected. Other possibles are U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick, White House budget chief Josh Bolten, or a long-time Bush supporter from California, Gerald Parsky.

Bush issued statements of praise for both men — and for the policies they advanced.

"John Ashcroft has worked tirelessly to help make our country safer," the president said. "John has served our nation with honor, distinction, and integrity."

Bush's farewell to Evans was more effusive and more personal, fitting to their more than three decades of friendship dating to the oil business in Midland, Texas, where they would attend church together and meet every day for a three-mile jog.

"Don Evans is one of my most trusted friends and advisers," Bush said. "Don has worked to advance economic security and prosperity for all Americans. He has worked steadfastly to make sure America continues to be the best place in the world to do business."

Ashcroft, 62, has been well liked by many conservatives. At the same time, he has been a lightning rod for criticism of his handling of the U.S. end of the war against terror, especially the detention of terror suspects.

Evans, 58, was instrumental in Bush's 2000 campaign and came with him to Washington. Evans has told aides he was ready for a change. He was mentioned as a possible White House chief of staff in Bush's second term, but the president decided to keep Andy Card in that job.

Meanwhile, three high-ranking Bush administration officials said they would like to remain on the job. Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman, Interior Secretary Gale Norton and Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael Leavitt all said they want to continue.

Washington continued to buzz with speculation about the futures of Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Powell, en route to Mexico City, said late Monday he has an ambitious travel schedule in Europe in the weeks ahead in hopes of patching deep divisions stemming from the Iraq war. He gave no hint about his own plans beyond the early December meetings, although he is widely expected to leave his job at the end of Bush's term or early in the second term.

Powell has fenced with reporters who have asked if he will stay on the job, saying only that he serves at the pleasure of the president.

Senior aides to Rumsfeld say he would like to remain in the job for at least part of Bush's second term. Rumsfeld told reporters at a news conference Tuesday that he had not discussed it with Bush since the election, and he did not say whether he wanted to remain. Rumsfeld ran through a list of Pentagon accomplishments during his tenure, prompting some at the White House to suggest that his remarks had a valedictory tone. But Pentagon aides discouraged the idea he was hinting at any intention to leave.

Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser, is considered a possible successor for either Rumsfeld or Powell. She has let it be known that she does not want to remain in her current role in the second term, and officials say her path is up or out. Rice said a year ago she wasn't interested in getting enmeshed in the bureaucracy at the State Department, but aides don't rule that out now, particularly with prospects for change in the Middle East.


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Hmmm, not to be a downer to anyone but two things.

1. All Cabinet members resign at the end of a term. Thats not a big deal, what is is if the President renominates them.

2. Does anyone really think they will like the next guy?

(Love the choices in the poll though LOL)
 
But before he leaves, lets try one more time to fuck people out of making their own, non-faith based decisions:


WASHINGTON - The Bush administration asked the Supreme Court on Tuesday to block the nation's only law allowing doctors to help terminally ill patients die more quickly.


The appeal from Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) had been expected since May, when a lower court ruled the federal government could not punish Oregon doctors who prescribed lethal doses of federally controlled drugs.


Oregon voters approved the law and since 1998 more than 170 people have used it to end their lives. Most had cancer.


The Bush administration has argued that assisted suicide is not a "legitimate medical purpose" and that doctors take an oath to heal patients, not help them die.


While not as prominent as abortion, the issue is an important one for conservative Christians, who helped President Bush (news - web sites) win a second term last week. The government waited until Tuesday, the final day possible, to file paperwork at the high court.


Oregon's law, known as the Death With Dignity Act, lets patients with less than six months to live request a lethal dose of drugs after two doctors confirm the diagnosis and determine the person's mental competence to make the request.


Paul Clement, acting solicitor general, said in the appeal that the law conflicts with the federal government's powers. The attorney general's conclusion that doctors should not be allowed to treat patients with lethal doses of drugs "is the position maintained by 49 states, the federal government and leading associations of the medical profession," he told justices.


The Supreme Court probably will decide early next year whether it will review the case. The court has been hearing cases now with eight members, because Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist is under treatment for thyroid cancer.


The high court has dealt with right-to-die cases before. Justices held in 1997 that while Americans have no constitutional right to assisted suicide, states may decide the issue for themselves. And in 1990, the court ruled that terminally ill people can refuse life-sustaining medical treatment.


Rehnquist wrote both opinions. In the 1997 ruling, he said the idea of having someone help end another's life conflicts with "our nation's history, legal traditions and practices."


Kathryn Tucker, legal director for Compassion in Dying, a Seattle-based group that supports physician-assisted suicide, said she expects the Supreme Court to reject the appeal, based on the previous decisions that let states set their own policies.


"I am extremely disappointed that Attorney General Ashcroft has chosen to continue ignoring the will of the voters of Oregon," said Sen. Ron Wyden (news, bio, voting record), D-Ore. "I certainly plan to look into how many taxpayer dollars Mr. Ashcroft has wasted in his attempt to disenfranchise Oregon voters."


The filing came on the day Ashcroft's resignation was announced at the White House. Scott Swenson, executive director of the advocacy group Death with Dignity, called it "Ashcroft's parting shot from the far-right at the people of Oregon."


Oregon is the only state that has such a right-to-die law, although leaders in other states have considered laws of their own.


At issue for the court now would be the bounds of a federal law declaring what drugs doctors may prescribe. Traditionally states, not the federal government, regulate medical practices.


A federal judge and the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) in San Francisco have ruled that federal officials do not have the power to circumvent the Oregon law to punish health professionals in Oregon.


The case is Ashcroft v. Oregon.
 
While we're at it, why don't we legislate people's lifestyle to fit with a 'Culture of Life' and outlaw cigarettes, guns, booze, and fast food. These things kill an awful lot of people.
 
Couture said:
While we're at it, why don't we legislate people's lifestyle to fit with a 'Culture of Life' and outlaw cigarettes, guns, booze, and fast food. These things kill an awful lot of people.

I get the feeling thats well on its way.
 
Couture said:
While we're at it, why don't we legislate people's lifestyle to fit with a 'Culture of Life' and outlaw cigarettes, guns, booze, and fast food. These things kill an awful lot of people.

Not guns, that's a demcratic party plank :rolleyes:
 
God kills. God kills 'em dead as hell. Zap! Plague. Having too much fun? Zap! Your building is too tall. Zap!

This bible business doesn't really fit with the culture of life.
 
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Colleen Thomas said:
Not guns, that's a demcratic party plank :rolleyes:

Depending on how you look at it, so is getting rid of drinks (M.A.D.D.), fast food (PETA) and cigarettes...well we are all suppose to hate that right?
 
Couture said:
While we're at it, why don't we legislate people's lifestyle to fit with a 'Culture of Life' and outlaw cigarettes, guns, booze, and fast food. These things kill an awful lot of people.

Booze and fast food are large industries, much too large for the Republicans to go against. Being anti-gun cotrol is also big with Reublicans so they won't do that either. Once the Dems get back in office they will probably resume wasting their time trying to outlaw guns.

Tobacco is being outlawed in tiny increments but it will probably never be entirely eliminated becdause it is a major export and tobacco state politicians have a lot of clout.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
"I believe that my energies and talents should be directed toward other challenging horizons," he said.

How about the Heritage Foundation? They can always use someone to represent the conservative view.
 
This is big, people. Think about it this way: one less person near the head office whose religioius sect thinks Armageddon is a good idea.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration asked the Supreme Court on Tuesday to block the nation's only law allowing doctors to help terminally ill patients die more quickly.

The appeal from Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) had been expected since May, when a lower court ruled the federal government could not punish Oregon doctors who prescribed lethal doses of federally controlled drugs.

Oregon voters approved the law and since 1998 more than 170 people have used it to end their lives. Most had cancer.

The Bush administration has argued that assisted suicide is not a "legitimate medical purpose" and that doctors take an oath to heal patients, not help them die.

While not as prominent as abortion, the issue is an important one for conservative Christians, who helped President Bush (news - web sites) win a second term last week. The government waited until Tuesday, the final day possible, to file paperwork at the high court.

Oregon's law, known as the Death With Dignity Act, lets patients with less than six months to live request a lethal dose of drugs after two doctors confirm the diagnosis and determine the person's mental competence to make the request.

Nevermind the glee. This makes my blood boil.

Who the hell are these people and why must they interfere in every aspect of our lives, from conception to slow death? In Florida two years ago, the husband of a woman in a ten-year coma won the right to remove the feeding tube that was keeping her alive. Our governor - your president's brother - persuaded the Republican-run state legislature to pass a special law, giving the governor the authority to order this poor woman's feeding tube replaced.

Also in Florida, the religious right won "custodial authority" over the fetus of a severely brain-damaged woman who had been raped by a nurse at a state hospital. The young woman's doctor had advised her parents to have the pregnancy terminated; their daughter has had the mental faculties of a 3-year-old since a car accident years ago. They agreed that pregnancy would be traumatic for someone who couldn't understand what was happening to her, and she had already been traumatized by the rape. Then strangers got involved and won the right to protect the fetus, putting its rights ahead of this poor, destroyed girl's and the people who loved her.

How can people like Ashcroft and Jeb Bush say they believe in individual freedom? 3 times in recent years, this state's social services division has returned abused children to homes where they were eventually murdered. Families are some sacred unit and the government is nearly always wrong to interfere, even when a child's biological parents have left it covered with burn marks. But when the right-to-lifers object to a family's decisions, it's another story.

Who are these people and what gives them the right to decide how much suffering is enough?
 
Couture said:
God kills. God kills 'em dead as hell. Zap! Plague. Having too much fun? Zap! Your building is too tall. Zap!
You're complicating things. The dude made us mortal to begin with. That should be argument enough fore the mother of all lawsuits.

#L
 
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041110/D8694G201.html

Gonzales to Succeed Ashcroft, Sources Say
By Scott Lindlaw
The Associated Press
Wednesday 10 November 2004
WASHINGTON - President Bush has chosen White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, a Texas confidant and one of the most prominent Hispanics in the administration, to succeed Attorney General John Ashcroft, sources close to the White House said Wednesday.
Ashcroft announced his resignation on Tuesday, along with Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a Texas friend of the president's.
 
Shit usually exits soon after a fart, and it seems like Ashcroft's out of the picture, so let's keep our fingers crossed.
 
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