As Abraham Lincoln said,

[Ishmael]

"The best way to repeal bad law is to strictly enforce it."

So to the members of congress. Give Obama his clean CR. Give him the debt limit increase. In return demand that ObamaCare be implemented and enforced as written. No delays for anyone. No special subsidies for any government employee or elected official.

And if Obama wants to let the government go into default because he doesn't want to enforce a law that he lobbied the public and congress so hard to get, let him go to the nation and explain why he doesn't want to enforce the law.

Ishmael

 

[phrodeau]

Where was that idea three weeks ago?

 

[Sean Renaud]

"The best way to repeal bad law is to strictly enforce it."

So to the members of congress. Give Obama his clean CR. Give him the debt limit increase. In return demand that ObamaCare be implemented and enforced as written. No delays for anyone. No special subsidies for any government employee or elected official.

And if Obama wants to let the government go into default because he doesn't want to enforce a law that he lobbied the public and congress so hard to get, let him go to the nation and explain why he doesn't want to enforce the law.

Ishmael

Except the moment he writes a new subsidy it's part of the law. Otherwise flawless plan.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

"The best way to repeal bad law is to strictly enforce it."

So to the members of congress. Give Obama his clean CR. Give him the debt limit increase. In return demand that ObamaCare be implemented and enforced as written. No delays for anyone. No special subsidies for any government employee or elected official.

And if Obama wants to let the government go into default because he doesn't want to enforce a law that he lobbied the public and congress so hard to get, let him go to the nation and explain why he doesn't want to enforce the law.

Ishmael

Obama will blame Bush, and the voters will think, BY GOLLY HE'S RIGHT.

 

[Recidiva]

He also said "Party on dude!"

But I am for your plan. It sounds like an opportunity for wisdom, grace and the law of unintended consequences combined with white mutiny. If the law sucks people will at least be back to their day to day and bitching about it without a credit rating downgrade, though that is not the end of the world either. Seems our competence is clearly overrated.

 

[Not Normal]

And when it works every one can shut the fuck up and the congressional fucktards can continue NOT doing their fucking jobs.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

No, TACA won't work. And worse, once an entitlement is enacted, it's not going away.

Bad, bad idea.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Where was that idea three weeks ago?

Three weeks ago he was sippin' Cruz' kool-aid. He and his bro AJ really believed the Democrats would cave in....they always caved in, right?

 

[Sean Renaud]

To be fair I would have bet on them caving too.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Three weeks ago he was sippin' Cruz' kool-aid. He and his bro AJ really believed the Democrats would cave in....they always caved in, right?

History was on their side in that particular case.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I've been very pleased that the Democrats have been standin' their ground against these budget terrorists...the howls and squeals of the RWCJ have been enormously satisfying.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm not sure our democracy can survive Democrats with spines.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

To be fair I would have bet on them caving too.

To be fair, they will still probably cave.

A short-term fix, putting off the big fight, only leads to a bloodbath.

For Obama, this is the worst of both worlds; he needs a miracle for this thing to get up and running.

Think of the panic as people start discovering the premium increases, the co-insurance readjustments, the new higher deductibles and the inability to get enrolled.

Then, again, they will see who is truly fighting in their best interests and who is screwing them for pure partisan political reason.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm not sure our democracy can survive Democrats with spines.

Democracy cannot survive.

Those who love Democracy think that its encroachment stops on their doorstep.

In America, they first came for the very rich and I didn't speak up because I wasn't rich," said the Rev. Imadem Doinggood. "Then they came for the Bourgeoisie and I didn't speak up because I wasn't Bourgeois. Then they came for the Upper Middle Class blue-collar workers. I didn't speak up because I was a Government clerk. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak up.
A_J, the Stupid

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[Byron In Exile]

Whoever quotes Lincoln is sifting through a huge pile of bullshit.

You can probably find anything there.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Tart your shit in Elizabethan English and credit The Bard.


Or the KJV.

 

[Ishmael]

I'm not sure our democracy can survive Democrats with spines.

We are not a Democracy, if we were a Democracy ObamaCare would not be the law of the land today.

Ishmael

 

[Que]

won't work...can't craft a law to force the executive branch to faithfully execute a particular law, when the oath of office is meaningless to the occupant thereof.

He has already shown he will enforce or defy any law as he in his omnipotence sees fit.

 

[Ishmael]

won't work...can't craft a law to force the executive branch to faithfully execute a particular law, when the oath of office is meaningless to the occupant thereof.

He has already shown he will enforce or defy any law as he in his omnipotence sees fit.

There is that.

Ishmael

 

[tactful]

He also said "Party on dude!"

He did actually say this, right after he left, "Berry and Lincoln".

 

[1sickbastard]

won't work...can't craft a law to force the executive branch to faithfully execute a particular law, when the oath of office is meaningless to the occupant thereof.

He has already shown he will enforce or defy any law as he in his omnipotence sees fit.

"Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem"~Umberto Eco

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

"Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem"~Umberto Eco

Official Translation: HOORAY FOR ME, FUCK YOU!

 

[RobDownSouth]

To be fair, they will still probably cave.

A short-term fix, putting off the big fight, only leads to a bloodbath.

For Obama, this is the worst of both worlds; he needs a miracle for this thing to get up and running.

Think of the panic as people start discovering the premium increases, the co-insurance readjustments, the new higher deductibles and the inability to get enrolled.

Then, again, they will see who is truly fighting in their best interests and who is screwing them for pure partisan political reason.

That's right, AJ, this entire affair has been nothin' short of a disaster for President Obama. The Republicans are standing tall and everyone looks to them for leadership now.

Democracy cannot survive.

Those who love Democracy think that its encroachment stops on their doorstep.

Shorter AJ: Doooooooooooom! Gloooooooooom!

 

[KingOrfeo]

As Abraham Lincoln said,

"The problem with things you read on the Internet is you never know if they're true or not."