EllieTalbot
Fear the Spoon
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Misanthropy: Misanthropy is generalized dislike, distrust, disgust, contempt or hatred of the human species or human nature.
So how much do you identify with that?
Yes, this is a re-launch. I intended to make this a public poll, but forgot to tick off the little box to make it one, so Laurel had been kind enough to delete the first one so I could go for it again.
I'm c&ping what had been posted in the first thread (and since I pm'ed Laurel quickly, and she responded quickly with the delete, there hadn't been much. The thread probably lived a half hour, if that).
Everything remains exactly the same, including the poll options, except that it's public. So if you want to tell me to fuck off, you'll have to attach your "name" to it, which was intended. *cue not-so-evil cackle*
At the time of deletion, there had been one vote for "we're more good than bad," and two "fuck off" votes.
As for posts, Byron in Exile had responded with:
I will tell you why; so shall my anticipation
prevent your discovery, and your secrecy to the king
and queen moult no feather. I have of late—but
wherefore I know not—lost all my mirth, forgone all
custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily
with my disposition that this goodly frame, the
earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most
excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave
o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted
with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to
me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
What a piece of work is a man! how noble in reason!
how infinite in faculty! in form and moving how
express and admirable! in action how like an angel!
in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the
world! the paragon of animals! And yet, to me,
what is this quintessence of dust? man delights not
me: no, nor woman neither, though by your smiling
you seem to say so.
That happens to be a favorite passage of mine from Hamlet, and a fantastic contribution. While it makes some caveats in favor of humanity, the conclusion about our overall nature is nearly claustrophobic. And, in answer to that, I'd like to point out that such passages aren't difficult to find in literature (albeit not nearly so well-put), and I think that such frequent recognition of our follies works in our favor more than it works against us.
Saint Peter posted:
We are pigs.
All of us.
Byron responded with:
Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more,
Men were deceivers ever,
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never:
Then sigh not so, but let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into Hey nonny, nonny.
Sing no more ditties, sing no more,
Of dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
Since summer first was leafy:
This time from Much Ado About Nothing, and aside from the surface relevance I extrapolate nothing. But I would point out that it's less relevant than the Hamlet quote, since it refers to men as a gender as opposed to the whole human race.
To Petey I simply say, oh, bullshit. And I mean that in the friendliest way possible. Humanity has produced more than a few people who aren't the least bit piggish, and I say that despite serious doubts that pigs are inherently bad.
Oinking in Omaha
(and Polling People in Peoria),
Ellie
So how much do you identify with that?
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Yes, this is a re-launch. I intended to make this a public poll, but forgot to tick off the little box to make it one, so Laurel had been kind enough to delete the first one so I could go for it again.
I'm c&ping what had been posted in the first thread (and since I pm'ed Laurel quickly, and she responded quickly with the delete, there hadn't been much. The thread probably lived a half hour, if that).
Everything remains exactly the same, including the poll options, except that it's public. So if you want to tell me to fuck off, you'll have to attach your "name" to it, which was intended. *cue not-so-evil cackle*
At the time of deletion, there had been one vote for "we're more good than bad," and two "fuck off" votes.
As for posts, Byron in Exile had responded with:
I will tell you why; so shall my anticipation
prevent your discovery, and your secrecy to the king
and queen moult no feather. I have of late—but
wherefore I know not—lost all my mirth, forgone all
custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily
with my disposition that this goodly frame, the
earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most
excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave
o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted
with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to
me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
What a piece of work is a man! how noble in reason!
how infinite in faculty! in form and moving how
express and admirable! in action how like an angel!
in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the
world! the paragon of animals! And yet, to me,
what is this quintessence of dust? man delights not
me: no, nor woman neither, though by your smiling
you seem to say so.
That happens to be a favorite passage of mine from Hamlet, and a fantastic contribution. While it makes some caveats in favor of humanity, the conclusion about our overall nature is nearly claustrophobic. And, in answer to that, I'd like to point out that such passages aren't difficult to find in literature (albeit not nearly so well-put), and I think that such frequent recognition of our follies works in our favor more than it works against us.
Saint Peter posted:
We are pigs.
All of us.
Byron responded with:
Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more,
Men were deceivers ever,
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never:
Then sigh not so, but let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into Hey nonny, nonny.
Sing no more ditties, sing no more,
Of dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
Since summer first was leafy:
This time from Much Ado About Nothing, and aside from the surface relevance I extrapolate nothing. But I would point out that it's less relevant than the Hamlet quote, since it refers to men as a gender as opposed to the whole human race.
To Petey I simply say, oh, bullshit. And I mean that in the friendliest way possible. Humanity has produced more than a few people who aren't the least bit piggish, and I say that despite serious doubts that pigs are inherently bad.
Oinking in Omaha
(and Polling People in Peoria),
Ellie
