Are there any Disney movies...

cheerful_deviant

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... where the mother doesn't die in the first 2 minutes?

Just watched 'The Fox and the Hound' with my daughters. I haven't seen it in years and didn't remember any of it. If I had I doubt I would have bought it.

Nothing like starting off Sunday Night Movie Night with my daughters to the 'BLAM' of a shotgun and a "Daddy, what happened to the mommy fox?" :rolleyes:
 
In Bambi, doesn't the mother die at the end? That should mix things up a bit for you. :cool:
 
The Emporers New Groove. Doesn't contain any death that I recall!

Cinderella, The Aristocats, Fantasia, Aladdin, 101 Dalmations and My favourite Peter Pan.

I don't remember any death in any of them anyway! I could be wrong though, it's late and I'm tired!

Elsie :rose:

xxx
 
LOL, it happens in young adult lit too. They have to get the parents out of the way so they kids can act independently. It's a running joke at book talks. Finish this sentence... and then the mother _______.
 
cheerful_deviant said:
... where the mother doesn't die in the first 2 minutes?

Just watched 'The Fox and the Hound' with my daughters. I haven't seen it in years and didn't remember any of it. If I had I doubt I would have bought it.

Nothing like starting off Sunday Night Movie Night with my daughters to the 'BLAM' of a shotgun and a "Daddy, what happened to the mommy fox?" :rolleyes:

I can't stand those movies, honestly. Too much sadness. I was traumatized watching Dumbo as a child, I swear - I can't get through it today.

For the longest time we never showed the entire movie The Lion King to our kids - that scene where Mufasa dies is so sad. We'd just skip past to where Simba meets Timon and Pumba. :D

But we like Mulan, The Aristocats, Peter Pan - there are some movies without the tragedy of losing a parent.
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
I can't stand those movies, honestly. Too much sadness. I was traumatized watching Dumbo as a child, I swear - I can't get through it today.

For the longest time we never showed the entire movie The Lion King to our kids - that scene where Mufasa dies is so sad. We'd just skip past to where Simba meets Timon and Pumba. :D

But we like Mulan, The Aristocats, Peter Pan - there are some movies without the tragedy of losing a parent.

I love Bambi... sad tho..
Nothing keeps kids captivated like a parent dying or feeling alone. Ever have that nightmare of screaming to your parent(s) and they don't hear you and keep driving off leaving you alone...?

put it this way.. anyone who dedicates their life to making hand drawn characters seem lifelike may be a tad devoid of any moral reasoning with a child. sure kids love watching animation.. for whatever reason.. probably the colors, but they like drinking paint thinner too. sooo I would reccomend not assuming Disney is always great for kids.. in fact.. remember the movie with fivel mouskewitz.. i think it was... there was a few frames of a naked woman in the backdrop thru a window in that movie. SICK SICK SICK humor mr walt disney.

I once accidentally found 2 subliminal messages in a care bears movie too. its nuts the stuff you wouldn't expect. .. not the reverse bullshit kind.. but the ones they drop in volume and dead pan way off to one speaker only while reversing the phase to make it distant somewhat.. I had my speakers set up wrong and i heard it clear as can be.. it wasnt anything bad.. but still.. it said somthing like...."always remember.. no matter where you go.. you will feel safe."
 
cheerful_deviant said:
... where the mother doesn't die in the first 2 minutes?

Just watched 'The Fox and the Hound' with my daughters. I haven't seen it in years and didn't remember any of it. If I had I doubt I would have bought it.

Nothing like starting off Sunday Night Movie Night with my daughters to the 'BLAM' of a shotgun and a "Daddy, what happened to the mommy fox?" :rolleyes:

Ummmm....
I was gonna say "Finding Nemo", but I'd be wrong!
 
Elsie Grey said:
The Emporers New Groove. Doesn't contain any death that I recall!

Cinderella, The Aristocats, Fantasia, Aladdin, 101 Dalmations and My favourite Peter Pan.

I don't remember any death in any of them anyway! I could be wrong though, it's late and I'm tired!

Elsie :rose:

xxx
In fact, there's not a single mother in the group you mentioned! :) (except for in Peter Pan, and she has nothing to do with the adventure- leaving her behind the way they do, in certainly as effective as her dying.

In almost every fairy tale, the mother dies at the beginning, that's part of the gestalt of Fairy tales. And since Disney has a winning formula in fairy tales, it tends to stick with the program...

Go for non-Disney movies. try Don Bluth's films, like "An American Tale" and "Fievel Goes West"
 
think about it tho... anyone who does nothing but draw fuckin characters all day must have had a fucked up childhood.. I bet walt disney killed his mother in fact!!
and dont try to pull that.. what about disney world.. thats good and he made all that for kids and their mothers.. .oh yeah.. well 2 words... Neverland ranch

thats right.. MJ .. known as a child molester.. alleged.. anyway.. you get the point. I hate walt disney!
 
The only Disney movie I ever really liked was Fantasia.

All the rest struck me as OK, but not the type of thing I had to see again.
 
Go outside the format.

Try Toy Story 1 and 2, Shrek 1 and 2, Monsters, Inc., The Incredibles -

All wonderful movies. Still emotional (oh, how I cry in Monsters, Inc.!) but nobody loses a parent.

:)
 
Sis was watching the little mermaid earlier- as far as i recall there is no mother in it- she died before they could record her lines ;)

Same in Pocahontas (sp), sleepin beauty, snow white, toy story and sword in the stone...

My fave disney film is Finding Nemo- just TOO funny.

Was shrek Dreamworks and Pixar or Disney and Pixar? if it was Disney then Shrek one and two are joint 1st with Finding Nemo :D
 
For the record, from my memory:

Death of parent in first few minutes: Bambi, Fox & The Hound, Finding Nemo

Death of parent in movie: Lion King

Death of parent before movie: Cindarella, Beauty & The Beast, Snow White, Sword in the Stone, Pochahantas (sp?), The Little Mermaid...

Probablly more. To tired to reacall them now.
 
Elsie Grey said:
The Emporers New Groove. Doesn't contain any death that I recall!
Bestest Disney movie ever.

Just wanted to say that.


"It's okay, this is all right, we can figure this out."

"I hate you."
 
cheerful_deviant said:
For the record, from my memory:

Death of parent in first few minutes: Bambi, Fox & The Hound, Finding Nemo

Death of parent in movie: Lion King

Death of parent before movie: Cindarella, Beauty & The Beast, Snow White, Sword in the Stone, Pochahantas (sp?), The Little Mermaid...
Being fair, a lot of these are from fairytales where death of mommy prior to the tale is common--NOT Disney's fault if Cinderella or Snow White start out with the real parents dead and gone and only step-mom around. That's the fault of the Brother's Grimm (There's a whole book on how the Grimm Brothers changed a lot of these tales which had mom alive and acting badly to having sacred mom die and replacing her with a wicked stepmom).

Not Disney's fault if the Tarzan books have mom and dad die--that's the story. Ape mom doesn't die--though Ape dad does--but that is in the book.

That said, Disney does tend to use that one parent forumla--but if you think about it, you'll see that it makes a lot of sense. Writing wise, it's easier to have only one parent around. So they often kill off one, and often the story requires that it be mom (ex: Pochahantas--you NEED the Chief, right? or Aladdin--you NEED the Sultan. Opposite for Lion King--you NEED dad to die).

Just FYI, almost all computer graphics movies mentioned--like Toy Story, Monster's Inc., etc. Are NOT Disney (Well, they kinda are now as Disney bought out Pixar). They are Pixar (Disney just financed them), meaning they often have a different sensibility--a different type of originality.

If we're counting Pixar, however, I'll mention The Incredibles--which most certainly has one of the best mom-dad characters ever.

Dumbo is actually one of my faves as it's all about a Mother's love--and the fierce loyalty of Mom and child. The Mom doesn't die--she stands up for her child, and in the end, Dumbo stands up for her and they're reunited. Mulan has both parents and even a grandma. Sleeping Beauty has both Mom and Dad alive and well also, as does Lady & The Tramp, and 101 Dalmatians.
 
Liar said:
Bestest Disney movie ever.
I'm in agreement. A highly underrated movie--I think because it was more Bugs Bunny than Mickey Mouse. I adore that film.

"Why do we even have that lever?" :D
 
cheerful_deviant said:
For the record, from my memory:

Death of parent in first few minutes: Bambi, Fox & The Hound, Finding Nemo

Death of parent in movie: Lion King

Death of parent before movie: Cindarella, Beauty & The Beast, Snow White, Sword in the Stone, Pochahantas (sp?), The Little Mermaid...

Probablly more. To tired to reacall them now.
Don't forget Brother Bear (that was Disney, right?). Where not only the older brother (father figure) died, but it turns out he killed the baby bear's mother in the process. That was one my daughter rarely asks to watch (although it's good other than that horrifying incident).
 
Lilo and Stich the mother isn't around and neither is the father, the sister is taking care of Lilo.

But a slight mention on Pocahontas (sp?) is the fact that I can't stand that movie. I'm not one to complain about happy endings and all, I suppose I'm too much of a history nut and that's why it bugs me but...Pocahontas was 12 or 13 years old when she met John Smith, who was coincidentily the one that forced her by not so nice means to go to europe with him. There are paintings of her in europe, she wasn't exactly the Barbie doll that we see in the movie. I haven't even seen a good majority of the movie, refuse to watch it because it's just so off base it isn't even funny.

I think that Finding Nemo has the highest death toll of any disney movie, not only does the mother die but all of his brothers and sisters die before they are even hatched, only he and his father survive the attack.

But back to the whole thing about Pocahontas...or sort of...One reason why I loved Lilo and Stich so much is because it is the opposite of every other disney movie including the above mentioned. Look at all the little girls in the movie, they are chubby little girls and such. Not to mention that Lilo's sister is far from the typical Barbie doll figure, I gave major kudos to disney when it came out because they went from the norm and resisted temptation.

I'm not one for the disney princess, but I gotta give credit where Credit is due. The one who earned the happily ever after with the prince the most would be Belle as far as I am concerned, the others got by based on their looks. While she did to a certain degree she still didn't fall for the handsome prince, she fell for the guy because of his personality.

*shrugs and stops her little rant*
 
usemeplease28 said:
think about it tho... anyone who does nothing but draw fuckin characters all day must have had a fucked up childhood.. I bet walt disney killed his mother in fact!!

In the Lion Kind, after Simba has reached adolescence there's this point where he lies down and breaths out heavily, blowing some leaves up in the air. If you pause it at the right time the leaves spell out a rude word.
Same thing in The Little Mermaid in the clouds.

Honest. I've seen it meself.

x
V
 
Sleeping Beauty was the only one that popped into my head immediately.
True, her mother didn't raise her, but she was raised by three good fairies.
How awesome is that!? LOL.

Oh- not only in The Fox and The Hound does the mother die.. ("kablam- elimination; lack of education." How fucked up is that? lol.) But the part where the old lady takes Todd to the wildlife reserve and sings that damn song... I'm 23 years old and I cry my eyes out. And I sob uncontrollably, lol.


And let's not mention the numbers of the Disney movies that include alcohol and cigarettes... Hmm, I think now maybe Walt Disney wanted the children to grow up and be fucked up, lol.

"Your mommy died.. have a beer! And a smoke! Don't forget to cough!" :p
 
I saw "Flushed Away" last night...its cute and no death....except some flies that the frog eats.
 
Elsie Grey said:
The Emporers New Groove. Doesn't contain any death that I recall!

Cinderella, The Aristocats, Fantasia, Aladdin, 101 Dalmations and My favourite Peter Pan.

I don't remember any death in any of them anyway! I could be wrong though, it's late and I'm tired!

Elsie :rose:

xxx

Loved Aladdin

that was pretty cool
 
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