Are the Jews chosen to populate Isreal all mentally unstable?

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British MP compares Jewish treatment of Palestinians to Nazis

David Ward, who has been summoned to the party's whip following his comments, says he did not intend to offend 'Jewish people on a whole' but will continue to criticize Israeli actions against Palestinians.

It is perfectly acceptable in British politics to criticize Israel and its policies severely. Some would say it is even fashionable in certain circles, including the Liberal Democratic Party. But David Ward, a Lib-Dem Member of Parliament, broke three cardinal rules earlier this week.

First, don't mix your criticism of Israel with the Holocaust. Second, don't mix between Israel and "the Jews." Third, if you break on of the previous two rules, quickly apologize and get it over with. Mr Ward now faces serious disciplinary measure from his party's leaders and may even be expelled, after he broke these rules on the eve of International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

The furor over Ward began on Friday after he signed a book of commitment in the House of Commons in London, along with hundreds of other MPs, pledging to continue honoring the victims of the Holocaust and fighting racism in the future. After signing the book, Ward wrote a post on his website in which he harshly condemned Israel, connecting his condemnation to the memory of the Holocaust.

"Having visited Auschwitz twice" he wrote. "I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza." It would seem that Ward was interested in causing an uproar, as he was quick to tweet it on his Twitter account, where it was retweeted approvingly by a number of local Islamic movements.

Others were not so amused. Ward was swiftly criticized. Karen Pollock, chief executive of the Holocaust Educational Trust said that Ward "has deliberately abused the memory of the Holocaust, causing deep pain and offence" while Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews said that Ward's post and "the suggestion that Jews should have learned a lesson from the experience [of the Holocaust]" was "offensive" and that "for an MP to have made such comments on the eve of Holocaust Memorial Day is even more distasteful."

What probably disturbed Ward more though was a statement from his own party that "This is a matter we take extremely seriously. The Liberal Democrats deeply regret and condemn the statement issued by David Ward and his use of language which is unacceptable" and his summons on Monday to the party's whip for "disciplinary action." Reports have been circulating in the media that he may actually be expelled from the party for what he said. That would mean he is no longer a Liberal Democrat MP and cannot run again for parliament on behalf of the party.

cut and pasted from http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world...ent-of-palestinians-to-nazis.premium-1.496504

p.s it is doubtful that the libdems will actually whip him.

 

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[Dazzle1]

Well like George Galloway, Ward is an anti-semeeite.

He ignores the fact that the Palestinians have no claim to any Israeli land (The Nbaka is a joke) and that Israel is being attack by these islamic pigs.

 

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[1sickbastard]

Actually, a more apt comparison for the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians would be the British treatment of the Irish.

 

[Dazzle1]

Actually, a more apt comparison for the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians would be the British treatment of the Irish.

A more apt cpmarasion would be the terrorism of the FARC against Columbia funded by Hugo Chavez

 

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Actually, a more apt comparison for the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians would be the British treatment of the Irish.

Care to expand on this particular item of head fucked 'logic' ?

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

It's impossible to have a decent discussion on this type of subject because of the missuse and abuse of the English language.

It's entirely possible that the 1sickbastard here (there's probably more than just ONE sick bastard here, though, let's face it!) IS clever enough to be drawing a parallel between semitic, and arabs - and British, and Irish.

Arabs are semitic, and Jews are semitic.

'Anti-semitic' is a stupid meaningless phrase that is supposed to mean - but actually doesn't - mean, 'anti-Jewish.'

Great Britain is made up of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Irish are British.

However... ...the modern United Kingdom is not really 'Great Britain' because - that was when it was under the real British Kings, the Stewarts - of whom Charles II was 'His Brittanic Majesty.' And he was very definitely supported by ALL those constituent countries - England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. However - he was sent into hiding on account of assassins promoted to the task by criminals and traitors inside Parliament who eventually got their way, stole the King's money from the King's Mint by prevailing on Sir Isaac Newton (who held out as long as he was able), and brought in a non-Britain to 'become' the 'Royal Family.'

When Irish 'Loyalists' call themselves that - they really mean loyal to the usurper government, rather than actual loyalists to the real Crown.

David 'Ward' is very likely from that aristocratic Ward group who use the name 'Ward' because to use their real name of Stewart - as in the rightful Kings - would be seen as traitorous NOW, in the present context. And so, very possibly David Ward has, as they say, more than just one axe to grind (pun intended!).

The suppression of SOME Irish by the London Government and mercantile elite, is, possibly able to be compared to the suppression of SOME Semites, by other Semites...

The problem with simply saying that Palestinians have no historical claim of nationhood to the area, is the same as the old and discredited doctrine of 'Terra Nullius' wherever the British Empire wanted to push its way into some place and establish political control.

Whether a group of people had a claim or not does not suddenly permit a government - any government - to create unequal political rights within the citizenry or the people under its sovereignity and Law in respect to any enlightened modern Democracies.

'Holocaust' is a Greek word, not a Jewish word, and it certainly does not mean genocide of the Jews by the Nazis - although it is commonly taken to mean that.

Most people who are not Greek tend to use the word 'holocaust' very reverentially. The intended MEANING of those people is noble and completely understandable - but among intelligent and literate Greeks, there are implications with this word that are highly problematic and I don't think most people would continue to use the word if they realised what Greeks think the word implies in this context. I'm not going to explain it here. If you want to know you should ask a Greek to privately tell you.

I think it's preferable to use the Jewish word 'Shoa.'

'Are the Jews chosen to populate Israel all mentally unstable?'

Well, yes. If you want to use irony. You would have to say that given their history they simply must be a traumatised people, making decisions based on their traumatic recent history. I would say the chances that this is the case simply must be rather high. It may be that NOT all Jews in Israel are mentally unstable - in fact it is certain that many are not mentally unstable! But it is absolutely certain that there are MANY MANY MANY mentally unstable people there on both sides and especially in government otherwise why are we continuing in 2013 to look at conflict as a form of dispute resolution?

And consequently the world is faced with a very dysfunctional set of forces and players - one group of which has the bomb, and many of the other group who apparently think that suiciding means you go to heaven. Not to mention that this other group also has vastly more people in it.

I don't think there is any doubt that Iran has the bomb now although they may have only a limited scope of weaponisation for their nuclear capability. There are more than eighty known nuclear reactor facilities all over Iran and Iran is quite unlike Iraq with regard to being able to just attack the place and get away with it.

Personally I consider the situation well beyond the point now where what people say, what words they use, and what insults perceived or intended are slung - is or are important. I think we're well beyond that stage now. I think we're not far from a real disaster here and we ought to concentrate on what to actually do when that kind of thing takes place. I think it's actually too late to worry about mere 'political correctness.' The 'politics' is turning into a real blazing fight where there are lethal consequences everywhere. It's too late. It's already too late.

I think there are a lot of people playing the tune of 'don't be anti-semitic' while Rome actually is starting to burn. I don't think you can characterise the Arab Spring as a pro-Israel thing, do you? We just haven't 'got' what it all means yet.

No Western country has the money to plough through a long long war in the Middle East anymore.

Maybe a miracle will prevent the disaster. That's what it will take to stop it.