Arafat approved terror attacks against Israelis

[zipman]

Mofaz: Arafat gave 'green light' to suicide
attacks

By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent




Information directly linking Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat to terror organizations was presented Friday by Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz.

Addressing the Economic-Social Club in Nes Tziona, Mofaz charged that Arafat had instructed the heads of the organizations to kill more Israelis.

Referring to a never-before publicized conversation between Arafat and the leaders of the terror groups in February 2001, the defense minister charged that "the Palestinian plan was to cause a few thousand Israeli deaths within a number of months, so that Israel would give in to them... It was tantamount to giving a green light to the suicide terror attacks against Israel."

Mofaz said Hamas and Islamic Jihad began the suicide attack campaign and were joined a year or so ago by Arafat's Fatah organization. He noted that Israel was in possession of additional intelligence indicating Arafat's involvement in the terror, adding that the United States and other countries were also privy to this information.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/258393.html

 

[HeavyStick]

Your link has no merit (in redwave's mind), it lacks pop-ups, porn, and stories about "The Man". Go get a link with an oppressed baby seal smothered in Iraqi crude being beaten by white cops. Then your link will have credibility.

/sarcasm



I've seen footage of Arafat proclaiming the Martyrs are the soldiers of Allah.

I think Allah was getting God beer on Super Bowl Sunday.

 

[zipman]

Your link has no merit (in redwave's mind), it lacks pop-ups, porn, and stories about "The Man". Go get a link with an oppressed baby seal smothered in Iraqi crude being beaten by white cops. Then your link will have credibility.

/sarcasm



I've seen footage of Arafat proclaiming the Martyrs are the soldiers of Allah.

I think Allah was getting God beer on Super Bowl Sunday.

LOL, sorry to use a reputable site! Actually, it is considered the most left wing of the Israeli papers, which is why I chose it.

There have been plenty of speeches where Arafat has called for a million martyrs to march on Jerusalem, as well as referencing a treaty which Mohammed signed and later broke when the time was right.

 

[Cynic Project]

Hardly news is it

 

[lavender]

Zipman,

The fact is, even if it's a left-wing source, I wouldn't believe it. It never indicates what exactly was said in the meetings. It never shows us clear proof that Arafat was involved. It never deals with the fact that Arafat might *want* to look involved to help his support among the Palestinians.

After 4 decades of this bullshit, I think it should be abundantly clear to us that we need to be as skeptical about ANY information coming out of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as possible - on both sides.

 

[zipman]

Hardly news is it

I see you discovered emoticons. Good for you!

Perhaps if you were here longer, you would understand my posting this. There is a very vocal anti-Israeli crowd here and who blame Sharon for everything.

 

[lavender]

And then there are people like me who don't blame Sharon for everything but don't see the Israelis to be the innocent victims that so many on this board proclaim they are.

There have been innocents slaughtered on both sides. Both sides have perpetuated the violence.

 

[Gil_Favor]

Where is p_p_man?

 

[lavender]

ppman and REDWAVE have hurt the cause on this board of those who make logical and rational case by case arguments about the Middle East Peace Process - or lack thereof.

 

[Cynic Project]

I see you discovered emoticons. Good for you!

Perhaps if you were here longer, you would understand my posting this. There is a very vocal anti-Israeli crowd here and who blame Sharon for everything.

And since when does anything Lavender say get taken seriously?

 

[Cynic Project]

ppman and REDWAVE have hurt the cause on this board of those who make logical and rational case by case arguments about the Middle East Peace Process - or lack thereof.

Your ignorance & misinformation is a gift for Israel.

 

[sexy-girl]

And then there are people like me who don't blame Sharon for everything but don't see the Israelis to be the innocent victims that so many on this board proclaim they are.

There have been innocents slaughtered on both sides. Both sides have perpetuated the violence.

i agree with that

i find i used to post more on threads about the middle east but i hardly do now ... i think a lot of the posters that do post on those types of threads see it as a black and white issue ... where you have to take one side or the other


but i just don't see it like that ... i think both sides have acted awful and 99% of the news that comes out now if its from one side or the other will be propaganda

 

[zipman]

Zipman,

The fact is, even if it's a left-wing source, I wouldn't believe it. It never indicates what exactly was said in the meetings. It never shows us clear proof that Arafat was involved. It never deals with the fact that Arafat might *want* to look involved to help his support among the Palestinians.

After 4 decades of this bullshit, I think it should be abundantly clear to us that we need to be as skeptical about ANY information coming out of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as possible - on both sides.

Lav,

I think a lot of these facts are withheld for a variety of reasons. At the moment, they are being withheld due to the impending war with Iraq. The U.S. has made it clear that they do not want to further polarize western/arab relations while trying to build a coalition.

Yes, 4 decades of this does make one skeptical, but what kind of proof do you need? Anything given will be attributed to being a fabrication by the Israeli's anyway. There have been many instances of proof being given and not received because it is not "trendy" to side with Israel.

You are free to believe what you will, but personally, the only constant in the last 40 years from a political perspective is Arafat. Israel has had many leaders since then.

I guess it just depends if you want to be skeptical of the honesty of 4 decades of Israeli leaders (who were attacked repeatedly, even on religious holidays by their arab neighbors) or a confirmed terrorist like Arafat.

Personally, I choose the former of the two options, with the same grain of salt that I apply to all politics

 

[Cynic Project]

i agree with that

i find i used to post more on threads about the middle east but i hardly do now ... i think a lot of the posters that do post on those types of threads see it as a black and white issue ... where you have to take one side or the other


but i just don't see it like that ... i think both sides have acted awful and 99% of the news that comes out now if its from one side or the other will be propaganda

Typical

 

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[HeavyStick]

Where is p_p_man?

Begging for change, or masturbating 'cause of the dead Israeli.

 

[Cynic Project]

Israel retaliates

They will get land as soon as they stop attacking

but for some reason, Allah didnt grant the palestinians much intelligence

I had to just remove the error from your post.

 

[lavender]

4laterer,

You know not of what you talk about. Who broke the Oslo Agreement? The Israelis. There was a ceasefire, a peace of sorts established. Then the Israelis began building on the settlements again.

Why the hell should the Palestinians trust a fucking thing they say.

And Zipman, why don't I trust 4 decades of Israeli leaders? Because everyone over there has an agenda. And the agenda of almost all the leaders has been the same.

 

[Cynic Project]

4laterer,

You know not of what you talk about. Who broke the Oslo Agreement?

A small detail of the accords that you passed over was the non killing of inoccent Israeli civilians.

The Palestinians didn't stop.

 

[HeavyStick]

4laterer,

You know not of what you talk about. Who broke the Oslo Agreement? The Israelis. There was a ceasefire, a peace of sorts established. Then the Israelis began building on the settlements again.

Why the hell should the Palestinians trust a fucking thing they say.

And Zipman, why don't I trust 4 decades of Israeli leaders? Because everyone over there has an agenda. And the agenda of almost all the leaders has been the same.

I'm not going to agree or disagree with you about Israel's aggression.

The Palestinians have been on the losing end of everything they try to accomplish. They blow up a bus, Israel blows up a city block.

IMO, if the Palestinians left Israel alone what justification would they (Israel) have for revenge/oppression/aggression?

Someone should send them a video of MLK.

 

[Cynic Project]

I'm not going to agree or disagree with you about Israel's aggression.

It's called "self defence"

 

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[Cynic Project]

???

I don't understand

what error???

Giving "back" the land.

Back to whom? it was Jordanian land pre-1967.


The term is "give land"

Not "give back" which has conitations of land being directly taken from the Palestinians in 1967

 

[Gil_Favor]

I know more than you about the thing

Lavender knows everything, Look for a soon to be released book..The World According to Lavender

 

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