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[Chadrone]

How was the country any worse off for enfranchising the propertyless? Or women? Or blacks?

Giving the "have nots" the ability to use the authority of the political machine to destroy/control the "haves" means nobody gets shit....we're watching that happen in real time.

Just like every other socialist shit hole, this has happened many times before, and it will happen again.

The USA is a LOT better now than it was 100 years ago. And not only because of technological progress.

Yes outside of tech..... how is it better politically? For who other than those who have used the system to vote themselves into other peoples wealth?

 

[Wilson23]

Giving the "have nots" the ability to use the authority of the political machine to destroy/control the "haves" means nobody gets shit....we're watching that happen in real time.

Just like every other socialist shit hole, this has happened many times before, and it will happen again.

That's not how it goes in the social democracies. Thing in general go a lot better there than here.

Yes outside of tech..... how is it better politically? For who?

For everybody including the white middle class.

 

[Chadrone]

That's not how it goes in the social democracies.

That's exactly how it goes. The observable world around us is showing as much right now.

Thing in general go a lot better there than here.

Yet you nor any of the people here saying that will GTFO and go to your utopian paradise of socialism.

You won't even try SINGLE POLICY here at the state level because you know that bitch will collapse. Everyone who's even remotely productive will just fucking leave, that's why socialist nations have walls to keep people IN....because nobody is trying to break into any of those shit holes.

For everybody including the white middle class.

Fucking delusional ....go watch some more Disney. The only people who have benefited are the parasite class.......professional baby mamma's and 'educators'.

 

[Wilson23]

The only people who have benefited are the parasite class.......professional baby mamma's and 'educators'.

You won't find the parasites or "looters" in the 'hood. You'll find them in the Hamptons.

 

[Wilson23]

You won't even try SINGLE POLICY here at the state level

Yes, that has been tried at the state level. And has resulted in no reasons to regret it.

 

[Wilson23]

Oh look who doesn't know what the fuck socialism is. Not all shocking.

Social democracy is not socialism, at any rate. And neither is a public library. It is highly regrettable how any instance of a tax-funded public service is pointed to as "socialism" by socialists and anti-socialists alike,

 

[Chadrone]

Yes, that has been tried at the state level. And has resulted in no reasons to regret it.

LOL forcing people to buy corporate trash isn't a socialized HC system.

Fail

 

[Chadrone]

You won't find the parasites or "looters" in the 'hood. You'll find them in the Hamptons.

LOL...."war is peace" sure buddy.

Social democracy is not socialism

It's socialism without the bloodbath.

 

[HisArpy]

That's not how it goes in the social democracies. Thing in general go a lot better there than here.

For everybody including the white middle class.

King Orfeo has returned.

 

[Baztrachian]

If one can afford the best, health care in Canada may be better than in the United States. What about average citizens?

Health care is not better in Canada.

Jolene Van Alstine was denied treatment in Canada for a painful thyroid disease

https://www.reddit.com/r/healthcare/comments/1pi54fq/a_woman_in_canada_named_jolene_van_alstine_is

Canada's vaunted health care bureaucracy was pushing her to choose to be euthanized.

Mean Old Fascist Glenn Beck stepped in and he's paying for Jolene's treatment in the US out of his own pocket.

https://www.facebook.com/CanadaProu...nn-beck-for-your-generosity/1197702785876931/

Killing a patient is not healthcare.

 

[Baztrachian]

It's socialism without the bloodbath.

Socialism always ends in a bloodbath.

Just as soon as someone objects to participating in the socialist Utopia the murders always start.

 

[pinkparkhorse]

Health care is not better in Canada.

Jolene Van Alstine was denied treatment in Canada for a painful thyroid disease

https://www.reddit.com/r/healthcare/comments/1pi54fq/a_woman_in_canada_named_jolene_van_alstine_is

Canada's vaunted health care bureaucracy was pushing her to choose to be euthanized.

Mean Old Fascist Glenn Beck stepped in and he's paying for Jolene's treatment in the US out of his own pocket.

https://www.facebook.com/CanadaProu...nn-beck-for-your-generosity/1197702785876931/

Killing a patient is not healthcare.

Jesus Christ. This is heartbreaking.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Health care is not better in Canada.

Jolene Van Alstine was denied treatment in Canada for a painful thyroid disease

https://www.reddit.com/r/healthcare/comments/1pi54fq/a_woman_in_canada_named_jolene_van_alstine_is

Canada's vaunted health care bureaucracy was pushing her to choose to be euthanized.

Mean Old Fascist Glenn Beck stepped in and he's paying for Jolene's treatment in the US out of his own pocket.

https://www.facebook.com/CanadaProu...nn-beck-for-your-generosity/1197702785876931/

Killing a patient is not healthcare.

Canada has lower rates of child and maternal mortality, and longer life expectancy than the United States.

 

[Baztrachian]

Canada has lower rates of child and maternal mortality, and longer life expectancy than the United States.

Canada for the moment has lower rates of immigration than the US does and they adjust immigrants out of their statistical data via what they call Provisional death estimates.

If the US did that same thing and we excluded immigrants from our statistics we'd look better too.

As it stands US figures do not discriminate between US born people and those who just stepped across the border from El Salvador.

 

[Rightguide]

That's exactly how it goes. The observable world around us is showing as much right now.

Looking to Politruk for verity is like expecting a conspiracy theorist to report on reality.

 

[Wilson23]

It's socialism without the bloodbath.

No, that would be democratic socialism -- which has never yet been tried, unless you count Venezuela. Social democracy is something different -- and has been proven to work.

 

[Rightguide]

No, that would be democratic socialism -- which has never yet been tried, unless you count Venezuela. Social democracy is something different -- and has been proven to work.

We’re governed by a Constitution designed specifically to keep the government from micromanaging every second of your life. If you want a bureaucracy monitoring your breathing schedule, go ahead and move to Europe. Better hurry, though, if you want to make it there before the whole experiment collapses under its own paperwork.

 

[pinkparkhorse]

Canada for the moment has lower rates of immigration than the US does and they adjust immigrants out of their statistical data via what they call Provisional death estimates.

If the US did that same thing and we excluded immigrants from our statistics we'd look better too.

As it stands US figures do not discriminate between US born people and those who just stepped across the border from El Salvador.

That paints a bit of a different picture. It would be nice to see a more accurate comparison.

 

[Lazaran]

Health care is not better in Canada.

Jolene Van Alstine was denied treatment in Canada for a painful thyroid disease

https://www.reddit.com/r/healthcare/comments/1pi54fq/a_woman_in_canada_named_jolene_van_alstine_is

Canada's vaunted health care bureaucracy was pushing her to choose to be euthanized.

Mean Old Fascist Glenn Beck stepped in and he's paying for Jolene's treatment in the US out of his own pocket.

https://www.facebook.com/CanadaProu...nn-beck-for-your-generosity/1197702785876931/

Killing a patient is not healthcare.

B-MAGAt is such a seriously stupid fuck.

ONE example (and an EXTREMELY unusual example at that) doesn’t prove anything.

And let’s remember: The CURRENT healthcare system in the U.S. is only as good as it is because the Democrats’ ACA set standards of affordability, coverage, and care FAR beyond anything the republicans could come up with.





B-MAGAt



We. Told. Them. So.