Appeals Court Overturns New Jersey Sanctuary Law Shielding Illegal Aliens from Detention

[Bray123]

Be careful with those aliens. One might be a German pimp and his offspring may turn into a felon insurrectionist pedophile.

 

[icanhelp1]

"activist judges" is played out. don't you have a new catchphrase that is totally irrelevant to the current climate?

the multitudes of failures by this administration is "like nothing anybody has ever seen before."

You need knew glasses. You should schedule an appointment with an Ophthalmologist immediately if not sooner.

 

[icanhelp1]

right. lol. you're president's ineptitude is always someone else's fault.

Biden letting 12 million illegals invade our country is the epitome of ineptitude.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

No shit Dick Tracy, that's the point. That's the reason Biden didn't control the border, letting millions of illegals into our country, WHY? because they're counted *IN THE CENSUS* when they shouldn't be. The 14th needs to be amended. Illegals shouldn't be part of the representative body. IMHO

Wasn’t TRump going to build a wall? Super right wing Cato Institute found Trump was at fault, not Biden.

From his administration’s first day in January 2021, Biden actually increasedborder enforcement—arrests, detentions, and removals of border crossers all increased. The prevailing narrative that blames Biden overlooks the real causes of the crisis: America’s robust labor market and bad immigration policies that incentivized illegal entries. However, Trump, not Biden, mostly started those policies. Biden eventually phased out some of them; he increased legalmigration, and as the labor market cooled, the problem dissipated.

https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-1-summary

 

[dmallord]

No shit Dick Tracy, that's the point. That's the reason Biden didn't control the border, letting millions of illegals into our country, WHY? because they're counted *IN THE CENSUS* when they shouldn't be. The 14th needs to be amended. Illegals shouldn't be part of the representative body. IMHO

Typical response from you, dick. The point is you fudged your numbers to assert an invalid claim. So now you obfuscate to your 'IMHO' as a defense rather than facts and the underpinnings of the US Constitution.

It's okay to say they shouldn't be counted; I'm not railing against your opinion on that aspect . If you had stated that as your validation without the distortion, I'd be okay with it.

The distinction is that you lie in your post and blame a former president for the change in the number of representatives, but fail to grasp or even acknowledge that those changes have impacted the red states with heavy populations of immigrants. Those increased numbers of representatives also appear in those states. Note here, you didn't counter the Trump demand for redistricting via gerrymandering ahead of the next election in Texas. Didn't that bother you at all?

You are not a Constitutionalist. You want it to be whitewashed because it doesn't reflect your personal opinion, over the laws of the land.

None of those migrants, legal or illegal, votes in the elections without citizenship. Cry me a river over your red herring banter.

 

[ll74]

Biden letting 12 million illegals invade our country is the epitome of ineptitude.

There was nothing illegal about his actions.

 

[icanhelp1]

Typical response from you, dick. The point is you fudged your numbers to assert an invalid claim. So now you obfuscate to your 'IMHO' as a defense rather than facts and the underpinnings of the US Constitution.

It's okay to say they shouldn't be counted; I'm not railing against your opinion on that aspect . If you had stated that as your validation without the distortion, I'd be okay with it.

The distinction is that you lie in your post and blame a former president for the change in the number of representatives, but fail to grasp or even acknowledge that those changes have impacted the red states with heavy populations of immigrants. Those increased numbers of representatives also appear in those states. Note here, you didn't counter the Trump demand for redistricting via gerrymandering ahead of the next election in Texas. Didn't that bother you at all?

You are not a Constitutionalist. You want it to be whitewashed because it doesn't reflect your personal opinion, over the laws of the land.

None of those migrants, legal or illegal, votes in the elections without citizenship. Cry me a river over your red herring banter.

And yet Trump shut it down!

 

[schism666]

Biden letting 12 million illegals invade our country is the epitome of ineptitude.

if only trump didn't fail to build that wall you twats believe he would build.

quit blaming others for your failures.

 

[schism666]

You need knew glasses. You should schedule an appointment with an Ophthalmologist immediately if not sooner.

you need a gynaecologist and a shrink.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

His comment isn't about illegals voting, it's about redistricting based on a census where 'people count' over actual legal voter count.

Bro you give the Democrats a lot of credit while also saying they are not very smart.

 

[dmallord]

And yet Trump shut it down!

Trump didn't shut down the gerrymandering, did he? He started it up in Texas. Why? To pump up Republican districts for new seats in government.

Your thread is about 40 'illegal' seats gained by Democrats. Now you're off into the weeds about the border, again, and nothing more is said about the false start you began with.

Did we have an impactful change with your 40 seats lie, or was it no significant gain as was determined by conservative sources measuring the few gains that occurred?

Is it okay for Trump to force Texas into gerrymandering mode to gain seats under threat as the supreme leader?

 

[icanhelp1]

if only trump didn't fail to build that wall you twats believe he would build.

quit blaming others for your failures.

Biden could have finished the wall, the shit was on the ground. He could have kept the 'remain in Mexico' policy...He didn't.

Now you can watch the wall being built, dems can't do anything about it. Pelosi and Schumer can stick it!!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Democrats benefit from an estimated 40 additional seats in the House of Representatives due to the inclusion of illegal aliens in Census population counts, a distortion of representation that grants political power based on non-citizen presence rather than eligible voters. This undermines the principle of equal representation by inflating apportionment in states with large illegal populations, contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the Constitution. This is another reason why they wanted Joe Biden to flood millions upon millions of illegals into the country so they could be protected by unlawful Sanctuary Cities and blue state governments and illegally inflate their political power.

This is a God damned lie.
You are a God damned liar.

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump didn't shut down the gerrymandering, did he? He started it up in Texas. Why? To pump up Republican districts for new seats in government.

No he didn't, but he did shut down the illegal migrant invasion. Biden and democrats alike said it couldn't be done.

Your thread is about 40 'illegal' seats gained by Democrats. Now you're off into the weeds about the border, again, and nothing more is said about the false start you began with.

Did we have an impactful change with your 40 seats lie, or was it no significant gain as was determined by conservative sources measuring the few gains that occurred?

I never said they're illegal seats. I answered Luk's dumbass comment that illegal can't vote which wasn't the OP's point.

Is it okay for Trump to force Texas into gerrymandering mode to gain seats under threat as the supreme leader?

Forcing is pretty harsh, he's urging!

 

[dmallord]

No he didn't, but he did shut down the illegal migrant invasion. Biden and democrats alike said it couldn't be done.


I never said they're illegal seats. I answered Luk's dumbass comment that illegal can't vote which wasn't the OP's point.

Forcing is pretty harsh, he's urging!

Bullshit.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Biden's "deportation' numbers were phony numbers. A statistical 3 card Monte.

 

[schism666]

Biden's "deportation' numbers were phony numbers. A statistical 3 card Monte.

you don't even know what an illegal is, ish, nor their rights or pretty much anything else.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

you don't even know what an illegal is, ish, nor their rights or pretty much anything else.

Wrong, there’s a field where Ish is an expert.

 

[PaxNurgle]

The truth is always a big joke to you.

So illegal Aliens CAN vote then. News to me, as an actual American I should know.

Seriously dude, no wonder your views are so fucked up. You clearly know less than NOTHING about the American voting system or even how American democracy works.

So let me explain, for the benefit of people who claim to be Americans but most likely are simply Russian bot/trolls:

NO. ILLEGAL ALIANS CANNOT VOTE.
NO. THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT PURPOSELY ALLOW ILLEGAL ALIENS INTO THE COUNTRY SO THEY WOULD ALL VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS.

I mean, this is so blatantly obvious I shouldn't even need to state this, and the fact that you even post it makes me wonder if you are just trolling us, or if you really are that fucking dumb.

 

[schism666]

Wrong, there’s a field where Ish is an expert. View attachment 2554770

the disgusted woman really lets us know it's him

 

[Sean Renaud]

Democrats benefit from an estimated 40 additional seats in the House of Representatives due to the inclusion of illegal aliens in Census population counts, a distortion of representation that grants political power based on non-citizen presence rather than eligible voters. This undermines the principle of equal representation by inflating apportionment in states with large illegal populations, contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the Constitution. This is another reason why they wanted Joe Biden to flood millions upon millions of illegals into the country so they could be protected by unlawful Sanctuary Cities and blue state governments and illegally inflate their political power.

Okay first I would love for you to show your work on how the Democrats get and estimated 40 additional seats. I assume you mean 40 MORE than Republicans not just 40 more period which would be irrelevant at that point. Is it your hypothesis we get 40 more than the Republicans or 40 more period cus then you need to show how there are no illegals in say TEXAS. They seemed to be complaing a whole fucking lot about people who were just passing through on the way to California.

Second it was never really meant to be about eligible voters. Children are people to and those numbers are used to calculate what kind of infrastructure and these days aid will be needed should the situation arise.

On a side note there is zero evidence Biden LET a single illegal come in. That is a fiction you repeat over and over and over and its just as exhausting now as it was when you guys claimed the Deporter In Chief was letting illegals come in. Funny how now that you guys are going full Gestapo that you bring up how much Obama wasn't there. It really makes me think you're dishonest.

Now if we're being honest we know the truth. It didn't benefit anybody to bring that fact up. The Right needs to make the Left look weak on immigration and the Left needs to be able to call you out as the racists you are. Which is the one of the big reasons this will never get solved. It doesn't benefit anybody and the illegals aren't actually hurting anything and anybody who's paying attention is fully fucking aware of that.

However lets get to my final point because this part, this part is important.

So let me repeat your words ~This undermines the principle of equal representation by inflating apportionment in states with large illegal populations, contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the Constitution.~

US Constitution

Article 1, Section 2
Paragraph 2

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.
See people always try to sell that the 3/5s clause was an insult to slaves. It was not. It should have been 0. A slave is not a person, is not a citizen and thus should not have been counted at all. So from where I'm standing it not only fits the letter of the law it upholds the spirit perfectly as the Founding Fathers you love so much wrote it.
I make no qualms about the fact that the Constitution is in need oa huge overhaul. Its over two hundred and fifty fucking years old and nothing that old works as intended. But don't for a single fucking second sit there behind your monitor quoting the Evil Dead and then try to wriggle around what they meant.

While we're at it I should mention that thanks to the Missouri Compromise (if you add a free state you have to add a slave state to maintain the balance) there are WAY more states than there rightfully should be. A smart guy like you should be able to look at a map of the US and notice that on the East coast the borders are kind of jagged and unusual for the most part. You can even see this in Europe, Asia but oddly the Middle East and parts of Africa not so much.

The reason friend is that borders are usually formed by natural formations. Forests, hills, rivers, lakes etc, etc. How odd tthat once you get west of the Mississippi river you start seeing a LOT of very straight lines or odd choices. What the fuck is going on with Oklahoma? Now there are other reasons why the states are shaped in their specific ways that dealt with resources and straight up horse trading. But what was it your president said about the line between us and Canada?

Oh right. Its fucking arbitrary. Someone picked a spot and drew a line because that's where they wanted it.

So if you think about chum, the Right to this day by the nature of the EC and Congress STILL BENEFIT FROM SLAVERY TO THIS FUCKING DAY.

 

[dmallord]

Okay first I would love for you to show your work on how the Democrats get and estimated 40 additional seats. I assume you mean 40 MORE than Republicans not just 40 more period which would be irrelevant at that point. Is it your hypothesis we get 40 more than the Republicans or 40 more period cus then you need to show how there are no illegals in say TEXAS. They seemed to be complaing a whole fucking lot about people who were just passing through on the way to California.

Second it was never really meant to be about eligible voters. Children are people to and those numbers are used to calculate what kind of infrastructure and these days aid will be needed should the situation arise.

On a side note there is zero evidence Biden LET a single illegal come in. That is a fiction you repeat over and over and over and its just as exhausting now as it was when you guys claimed the Deporter In Chief was letting illegals come in. Funny how now that you guys are going full Gestapo that you bring up how much Obama wasn't there. It really makes me think you're dishonest.

Now if we're being honest we know the truth. It didn't benefit anybody to bring that fact up. The Right needs to make the Left look weak on immigration and the Left needs to be able to call you out as the racists you are. Which is the one of the big reasons this will never get solved. It doesn't benefit anybody and the illegals aren't actually hurting anything and anybody who's paying attention is fully fucking aware of that.

However lets get to my final point because this part, this part is important.

So let me repeat your words ~This undermines the principle of equal representation by inflating apportionment in states with large illegal populations, contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the Constitution.~

US Constitution

Article 1, Section 2
Paragraph 2

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.
See people always try to sell that the 3/5s clause was an insult to slaves. It was not. It should have been 0. A slave is not a person, is not a citizen and thus should not have been counted at all. So from where I'm standing it not only fits the letter of the law it upholds the spirit perfectly as the Founding Fathers you love so much wrote it.
I make no qualms about the fact that the Constitution is in need oa huge overhaul. Its over two hundred and fifty fucking years old and nothing that old works as intended. But don't for a single fucking second sit there behind your monitor quoting the Evil Dead and then try to wriggle around what they meant.

While we're at it I should mention that thanks to the Missouri Compromise (if you add a free state you have to add a slave state to maintain the balance) there are WAY more states than there rightfully should be. A smart guy like you should be able to look at a map of the US and notice that on the East coast the borders are kind of jagged and unusual for the most part. You can even see this in Europe, Asia but oddly the Middle East and parts of Africa not so much.

The reason friend is that borders are usually formed by natural formations. Forests, hills, rivers, lakes etc, etc. How odd tthat once you get west of the Mississippi river you start seeing a LOT of very straight lines or odd choices. What the fuck is going on with Oklahoma? Now there are other reasons why the states are shaped in their specific ways that dealt with resources and straight up horse trading. But what was it your president said about the line between us and Canada?

Oh right. Its fucking arbitrary. Someone picked a spot and drew a line because that's where they wanted it.

So if you think about chum, the Right to this day by the nature of the EC and Congress STILL BENEFIT FROM SLAVERY TO THIS FUCKING DAY.
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Take a bow and catch your breath, friend. You need to conserve your energy. We know the audience you addressed didn't register a word you said and will be back with more outlandish support to counter your reply.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Take a bow and catch your breath, friend. You need to conserve your energy. We know the audience you addressed didn't register a word you said and will be back with more outlandish support to counter your reply.

Thanks. The EC and Congress really piss me off and its annoying that people think it was written to protect "small states" from large ones because its easy to forget Virginia had a huge slave population. That they were allowed to count at the end of the day because they basically threatened to join with France. This was less a negotiation and more a hostage situation but because we white wash the absolute fuck out of our history people fuck it up.

 

[Geoff57]

My mans no one is importing anyone. Illegals can't vote and whether you like it or not they have a right to due process as plainly started by the country's founders.

If they are counted in the s

My mans no one is importing anyone. Illegals can't vote and whether you like it or not they have a right to due process as plainly started by the country's founders.

sorry, they were being imported under the previous administration.

 

[Geoff57]

My mans no one is importing anyone. Illegals can't vote and whether you like it or not they have a right to due process as plainly started by the country's founders.y

You are right, no one is importing people, but crime. No they don’t vote, but can have an impact on The House of Representatives, if they are included in the population count. Does this benefit the right or left, who knows? Yes they should get due process, can you tell me what that due process is? How is it spelled out legally?