Anyone have a story edit submission be rejected?

[SkyBubble]

I don't understand. What were you editing if there was not already a story published in Lit? Are we using "edit" differently?

Sometimes people make updates to already-published stories. I've done that.

 

[Baztrachian]

I've had two stories that were 100% HUMAN-WRITTEN (by me) rejected, claiming they were AI. I had to submit one of them FOUR TIMES!!!!

So you're telling us that the AI models are all copying you?

 

[SkyBubble]

They do a fair number of false positives. If you think you're too formal or repetitive or any of the other problems they tend to flag, I'd run it through a detector to see where the system used here might trip you up, so you can edit before submitting and being rejected by a false positive.

 

[AwkwardMD]

They do a fair number of false positives. If you think you're too formal or repetitive or any of the other problems they tend to flag, I'd run it through a detector to see where the system used here might trip you up, so you can edit before submitting and being rejected by a false positive.

No pattern of false positives around here.

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

I've just sent both edited/refined chapters 1 and 2 of my multi-part story "The Theory of Love" into pending, will keep this thread updated If i hear anything at all =)

 

[Abbafan]

I've had a story edit submission sent back under the "we've detected AI" excuse.
All I've done was tighten up grammar and change some scenes so it flows better with the chapter after it.

Hope I'm not the only one who has experienced this =D

I wonder if the original version was approved before they started screening for AI, or maybe there was a different version of the screening software they use.

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

I wonder if the original version was approved before they started screening for AI, or maybe there was a different version of the screening software they use.

good point, but I had submitted both the update for chapter 1 and the original version of chapter 2 at the same time, Chapter 2 got published while chapter 1 got declined =)

 

[SkyBubble]

No pattern of false positives around here.

I've nad two. I had to submit one of the stories FOUR TIMES!!!!

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

10th day update, nothing new yet, still in pending, I know edited stories are the least prioritized entries to look at so I'm patient there =) plus with the recent themed competitions inc I wouldn't be surprised if it takes longer to go though, at least they weren't sent back or rejected "yet" =)

 

[Voyeurkenneth]

10th day update, nothing new yet, still in pending, I know edited stories are the least prioritized entries to look at so I'm patient there =) plus with the recent themed competitions inc I wouldn't be surprised if it takes longer to go though, at least they weren't sent back or rejected "yet" =)

Hang in there! My last one was 15 days. For what it's worth, my last pending edit lingered for 6 weeks. I did open it but did NOT press save. So now I'm paranoid about touching any pending edit at all. I ended up resubmitting and voila, published after 15 days.

 

[SkyBubble]

So you're telling us that the AI models are all copying you?

I'm saying the system they use here is hyperactive and overly aggressive.

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

small update, had submitted chapter 3 a few days ago and got this, just for the record! I'm not complaining that my next entry is being published tomorrow but it does show how low the edited stories are prioritized =) would it be worth to just have the whole edited/revised version saga in a combined novel sized entry? or is that considered tacky to double-post a work that's been posted already?

 

[Voyeurkenneth]

small update, had submitted chapter 3 a few days ago and got this, just for the record! I'm not complaining that my next entry is being published tomorrow but it does show how low the edited stories are prioritized =) would it be worth to just have the whole edited/revised version saga in a combined novel sized entry? or is that considered tacky to double-post a work that's been posted already?

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I would wait. You might get some useful comments in Ch 03 that you could use toward re-mastering them all into a single submission down the line. Even something small like typos.

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

I would wait. You might get some useful comments in Ch 03 that you could use toward re-mastering them all into a single submission down the line. Even something small like typos.

Thanks for that bit of info it might be worth doing that, do authors on here do that as well? Even though it’s just all chapters in one submission?

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

last update on this, it seems the edits have gone through as they've disappeared from the pending list and i'm seeing the edits on the main stories now =D

I hope it was the fact that Chapter 3 was lined up for pending, and they got approved right after that, and not due to my little rant on here >.< that was NOT my intention if that was the case! =O

 

[AwkwardMD]

It was more or less inevitable. Editing anything is going to be rolling the dice. I wouldn't even count on putting it back exactly as it was surviving another run through the gauntlet. If the edit was rejected and the original is still live, I'd quit now while you're ahead, and prepare yourself for the probability that you're going to have to fight any subsequent chapters as well.

Defeatist, unnecessary, and, now, ultimately wrong. Edits that were done manually went through just fine, in the normal amount of time edits usually take, and subsequent chapters are going through fine.

The AI detection system Lit uses is better than you give it credit for.

 

[RejectReality]

Defeatist, unnecessary, and, now, ultimately wrong. Edits that were done manually went through just fine, in the normal amount of time edits usually take, and subsequent chapters are going through fine.

The AI detection system Lit uses is better than you give it credit for.

Single case, and the fact that editing anything subjects you to a crappy AI check is obviously accurate.

There is no such thing as a good AI detection system. The very nature of the things is that their job is to flag stuff as AI. If they don't flag a bunch of stuff, they appear useless. They are always going to default to overzealous.

I'm giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming the detector is shit. You're giving some ( likely profit-driven ) algorithm the benefit of the doubt and assuming the people are shit.

 

[AwkwardMD]

There is no such thing as a good AI detection system. The very nature of the things is that their job is to flag stuff as AI. If they don't flag a bunch of stuff, they appear useless. They are always going to default to overzealous.

I'm giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming the detector is shit. You're giving some ( likely profit-driven ) algorithm the benefit of the doubt and assuming the people are shit.

That's not how it works. I've explained this, but you were too pre-occupied by assumptions you already held about what an AI detection system must be to hear me.

Good science follows from an ability to make predictions about a theorized system. I made a prediction and it was right. I'll probably be right next time, too. I don't have all of the variables, but I have enough.

 

[AwkwardMD]

This is me, officially, stating that I believe I understand how Lit's AI detection works. I reverse engineered it. No, I won't be explaining the details.

 

[SkyBubble]

No pattern of false positives around here.

Unfortunately, there is at Lit.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I've nad two. I had to submit one of the stories FOUR TIMES!!!!

Unfortunately, there is at Lit.

These are both in response to the same post, posted 2 weeks apart. Are you good?