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[nixtytwister]

I can't claim to know anything at all about lesbians.

Like a lot of males, I enjoy the fairytale fantasy lipstick lesbians
in pornography.

Interestingly, I've never met a lipstick lesbian. At least, if I did,
I wasn't aware of it.

No offense, but all of the lesbians I've ever seen outside of porn have
been.....hmm. How to put this? Well, if they were biologically men,
they'd be monumentally unattractive men. As women? I think the word is "dogs".

Okay, now that you're monumentally pissed off, and eager to flame, don't bother. Why should you care what I think? I'm a bisexual male.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting is this.....I've always had the impression
that most lesbians are not so much sexually attracted to women as they
actively HATE men. I've often speculated that some, maybe even many, turn to a lesbian lifestyle because they had been raped.

So, to lesbian women: is it that you LIKE women, or more that you HATE men?

As a straight male, I've found that the majority of straight females are a lot less interested in sex than straight males are. This "lesbian bed death thing" leads me to wonder if sex, if orgasming, is much of an activity within lesbian life. I mean, if both persons are sitting around waiting for the other to take the initiative.........

So, to lesbian women: do you have sex more frequently, or less frequently than you straight female friends?

 

[minsue]

Do you stereotype gay men as much as you do gay women?

 

[nixtytwister]

Is the air a little thin up on your high horse?

Do you stereotype gay men as much as you do gay women?

All my observations are exactly that: reports of my experiences.
If that matches stereotypes, so what?

Stereotypes in and of themselves get a bad rap.
They weren't made up out of thin air, you know. If real life
never reinforced them, they'd evaporate.

 

[knkycva]

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[minsue]

All my observations are exactly that: reports of my experiences.
If that matches stereotypes, so what?

Stereotypes in and of themselves get a bad rap.
They weren't made up out of thin air, you know. If real life
never reinforced them, they'd evaporate.

You start out by stating you know nothing about lesbians and then go on to prove it.

The simple answer to your questions is this - Lesbians are just like everyone else. There is no one size fits all. There is no secret formula. I find it rather sad and disheartening that you think there is or should be.

 

[SophiaY]

You start out by stating you know nothing about lesbians and then go on to prove it.

The simple answer to your questions is this - Lesbians are just like everyone else. There is no one size fits all. There is no secret formula. I find it rather sad and disheartening that you think there is or should be.

Amen, to which I would add: You've met or seen a lot more of us than you'll ever realize...

 

[Tymeless]

looks like a new troll on the boards!

 

[rjp44]

It's much better to accept everyone based on them as a person. Why worry about someone's sexuality when percentages say you are going to have sex with a very small number of the people you meet and far less with those you only see. As for appearances versus sexuality, there is the prime example of Rock Hudson.

 

[blklthrjkt]

I have heard this same rant from misogynistic gay male friends. It sounds not so much like a problem with lesbians but with women in general.

Personally, my lesbian friends run the full spectrum from ultra-butch to very femme. Of course so do my male friends, ultra-butch to very femme and those are the straight ones!

 

[kbate]

All of that bullshite to lead up to asking how lesbians have sex and how often?

Little boys with lesbian infatuations. :roll eyes:

 

[Night_Jasmine]

Well, it seems like the can of worms got opened again. Every so often, the concept of all lesbians are unattractive butches seems to pop up like the proverbial bad penny.

I don't hate men. I'm just not attracted to them at all. I was married and found that sex was something I tried to avoid until one day someone showed me what my problem was.

Am I butch? No. I'm not ultra feminine either simply because I have self esteem issues.

I have a few guy friends but not many as I'm very shy around them, kind of afraid of them.

 

[angelkitty7888]

Amen, to which I would add: You've met or seen a lot more of us than you'll ever realize...

exactly! last i head at least 6/10 females have had a sexual encounter with another female at least once.

Personally i love my girl for her personality heart and mind. Body is just the shell we all come in. do i hate men? no i have a number of good male friends. It's like asking a person if they hate all brunettes or blondes! everyone has their preferance to everything (like foods for example). personally myself and my girl are just your normal run of the mill females. *shrug* Both brunette, i have blue eyes she has brown, we both have long hair, while i dress slightly more feminen and read more romance, we are pretty much like every other girl you could pass on the street.

And besides, the fact my girlfriend is female just means i play with different parts

 

[Etoile]

So, to lesbian women: is it that you LIKE women, or more that you HATE men?

I would say it's pretty universal that lesbians like women. Some lesbians also hate men, for various reasons, but the majority do not. If a woman hates men but doesn't like women, she's not a lesbian...she just hates men.

As a straight male, I've found that the majority of straight females are a lot less interested in sex than straight males are. This "lesbian bed death thing" leads me to wonder if sex, if orgasming, is much of an activity within lesbian life. I mean, if both persons are sitting around waiting for the other to take the initiative.........

It's true that most men have a higher sex drive than most women. This is why gay men are often seen as highly promiscuous - because they both have high sex drives. However, to say that lesbian bed death (which does exist) is standard for lesbians is quite wrong. Whether or not sex is a major activity in any lesbian's life is not because she's a lesbian, but because of her relationship with her partner. If a couple experiencing lesbian bed death breaks up, and each partner finds somebody new, they may well have sex every night. It's more a function of the relationship situation than the sexual orientation. Also, "waiting for the other to take the initiative" implies that both women want sex, but aren't asking for it. That's not what lesbian bed death usually involves...again, it's more about relationship dynamics, whether they feel comfortable asking each other for sex, or even if they feel comfortable having sex with each other.

As for orgasms - well, not all sex is about orgasms. Women seem to recognize this more than men. Men seem to be more focused on the almighty ejaculation, and women seem to be more about enjoying the experience. This is just generalizing, of course, but just because someone doesn't have an orgasm doesn't mean they're not enjoying sex.

 

[Night_Jasmine]

I'm going to sound stupid, but what is a lesbian death bed?

 

[symbolicflame]

Lesbian bed death is a term invented by sex researcher Pepper Schwartz to describe the supposedly inevitable diminution of sexual passion in long term lesbian relationships.

Wikipedia

 

[trojan_man_co]

give the guy a break

All of that bullshite to lead up to asking how lesbians have sex and how often?

Little boys with lesbian infatuations. :roll eyes:

looks like a new troll on the boards!

While I completely agree with every thing every one has been saying I would like to bring up the fact that you shouldn’t roast this guy on a spit for asking. While his preconceived notions about lesbians are off, at least he had the guts to realize that his perception could be wrong and seek out the truth. Don’t kill him because he is thus far ignorant on the subject, he is at least open to the truth. What better way to change a stereotype than to go to the source. obviously in his own life he did not have the chance to learn on his own, so while i support you all and your answers 100% don’t hate the guy for asking, at least he is trying to clear up the subject for himself and all the people out their who DO have these ideas about what lesbians are...

 

[minsue]

While I completely agree with every thing every one has been saying I would like to bring up the fact that you shouldn’t roast this guy on a spit for asking. While his preconceived notions about lesbians are off, at least he had the guts to realize that his perception could be wrong and seek out the truth. Don’t kill him because he is thus far ignorant on the subject, he is at least open to the truth. What better way to change a stereotype than to go to the source. obviously in his own life he did not have the chance to learn on his own, so while i support you all and your answers 100% don’t hate the guy for asking, at least he is trying to clear up the subject for himself and all the people out their who DO have these ideas about what lesbians are...

It's difficult to consider someone "open to the truth" while reading statements that all lesbians are "dogs" as well as opinions that we must hate men and couldn't possibly be attracted to women much less want to have sex with each other. Credulity may not be a bad thing, but believing the original post to be a true and honest search for knowlege without intent to insult stretches it a bit.

 

[Etoile]

I'm going to sound stupid, but what is a lesbian death bed?

Lesbian bed death supposedly occurs when two women have lived together for a while and are so set in their routine that they don't really have sex anymore. It does exist, I've lived it, but it's not necessarily as common as lesbian magazines would suggest. And honestly, I've heard of plenty of straight couples who stop having sex eventually too, so it's not necessarily a lesbian phenomenon alone.

 

[Etoile]

It's difficult to consider someone "open to the truth" while reading statements that all lesbians are "dogs" as well as opinions that we must hate men and couldn't possibly be attracted to women much less want to have sex with each other. Credulity may not be a bad thing, but believing the original post to be a true and honest search for knowlege without intent to insult stretches it a bit.

For what it's worth, I also considered this possibility, but it didn't take me long to write up a legitimate answer so I just went ahead and did it. I'm not saying the OP is or isn't a troll...I just gave him the benefit of the doubt anyway.