Another question...

[MinkSoul]

...sorry Cheyenne.... I know it's Saturday but.... this ones been bugging me also...


If matter and energy are just two forms of the same thing, is it possible that everything in the universe are just different concentrations of energy? And we only see things as "solid" because that's how our brains interpret what our eyes see.


I'm talking about just from strictly a physics standpoint, not "spiritual" energy..... just mass/energy. One wierdness at a time thank you...



by the way..... the book that's doing this to me is called The Tao of Physics..... and all I'm on is caffene and nicotine.... I quit all that other crap but that's another story/thread...

 

[Cheyenne]

and all I'm on is caffene and nicotine.... I quit all that other crap but that's another story/thread...

Okay, let me know when you start THAT story/thread.
Physics has never been a strong subject for me, sorry.

Hey, it is morning, isn't it! No wonder I'm hungry, I forgot to eat breakfast...

 

[sufisaint]

Everything is light and sound....

 

[modest mouse]

yes

 

[lavender]

 

[MinkSoul]

Hi Lavender...


Thanks...


Nice AV by the way....

and.... Thanks Sufisaint and Modest Mouse..... um..... care to elaborate?

 

[Never]

Everything is sound? Sound is little waves bounding off your ear. Did you mean everything is made of waves and particles?

MinkSoul, yes that's correct. You could call any solid object a collection of fast, compact 'energy'. If you had Superman vision you could voom in and see a bunch of particles dancing around

 

[sufisaint]

learned that from reading indian mystics.....light and sound combine to make all the worlds depending on their vibration is wether they are visible or not.....modern physics agrees, i think, with the wave-particle theory...

 

[MinkSoul]

Thanks but.... I'm not talking about "things" vibrating..... I mean ....Just the vibration.... without the things... I hope that makes sense...


Our brains put (superimpose?) the particles or whatever so we can understand what we see...

did I mention this was a wierd question?

 

[SpectralDragoon]

Everything appears solid to us, but nothing is actually "solid". There are always spaces between the molecules (no matter how small those spaces might be). Pretty freaky.

 

[MinkSoul]

Unless you're a black hole..... But then.... black holes aren't really there...

 

[Spinaroonie]

Our brains put (superimpose?) the particles or whatever so we can understand what we see...

Nope, the particles are too small and too close together.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Unless you're a black hole..... But then.... black holes aren't really there...

Black holes ARE there.

Einstein proposed that you could travel through a black hole and end up coming out a white hole, where gravity is pushing you away.

 

[MinkSoul]

Nope..... latest theory I heard was that black holes warped space-time so much they pinched it off behind them and actualy are no longer in this universe...

 

[Spinaroonie]

Nope..... latest theory I heard was that black holes warped space-time so much they pinched it off behind them and actualy are no longer in this universe...

theory != fact

Basically... we don't know.

 

[SpectralDragoon]

I just read a popular science article the other day on black holes. Back in the early 70's Hawking and his group mathematically "proved" that blackholes, if we could see them, would be perfectly spherical.

Now they believe differently though. They think they're donut shaped. The most powerful particle accelerator in the world in Geneva, Switzerland is undergoing an upgrade that should be done by 2006. This should allow them to make reaaaaally small (the size of an atom maybe) black holes, and they're pretty damned sure they'll be donut shaped. If this is true it'll mean there is a fifth dimension, although they aren't really sure what that would be. It'd have to be a direction, but pretty small (like millimeters) or we would've found it already.

Whew

And if THAT's true, then it would give a boost to the Super Strings theory that says everything is made up of really small vibrating strings. That theory depends on our universe having at least 10 dimensions though.

 

[MinkSoul]

Tis a strange universe out there (macroscopic)..... and in there too... (microscopic)

 

[SpectralDragoon]

I'm thinking double chocolate with sprinkles, how about you guys?

 

[MinkSoul]

Strawberry with nuts... chocolate makes me break out...

 

[Never]

Homer Simpson = Einstein?

No, the hair is too different.

 

[SpectralDragoon]

All I can say to that is: I'm sorry.

 

[MinkSoul]

Thanks...


I've become phylosophical about it....




I have NO idea what that means but...... it sounds good...

 

[RhumbRunner13]

Isn't all energy massless, and all matter posessing of mass?

Rhumb

 

[MinkSoul]

Well..... that's the theory....



but...


They are also just two forms of the same thing..... ( another theory)

 

[Spinaroonie]

It'd have to be a direction, but pretty small (like millimeters) or we would've found it already.

That theory depends on our universe having at least 10 dimensions though.

Well.. the 4th isn't a direction, the 5th could be anything.

As for the 10... we work math problems in at least 11 dimensions, we might just find them yet.