another man

[ellemac]

taking your wife's virginity

 

[Lost_Yonder]

how so? at the wedding reception? do you invite him to? does he pay you for the privilege?

 

[nakdsub]

Does he...

live?

 

[Carnevil9]

In Arthurian times, the King was allowed the privilege of taking the virginity of any bride on her wedding night; the groom would just have to wait and take sloppy seconds. There have been a few movies based on this concept.

But a great story could be spun around this idea. Imagine the husband who has no tolerance for his liege despoiling his wife. What will he do? Secretly take her virginity just before the ceremony? Or hire thugs to waylay (and sodomize) the sovereign on his way to the matrimonial tent? Or perhaps arrange for a threesome? The possibilities are endless!

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

In Arthurian times, the King was allowed the privilege of taking the virginity of any bride on her wedding night; the groom would just have to wait and take sloppy seconds. ...

This was still true long after Arthurian times and extended much lower than royalty. The Lord of the Manor had this right over all his serfs. Google the Latin phrase "jus primae noctis" or its equivalent in French "droit du seigneur" for more details.

There are a few stories on here which include this!

 

[shesnotcheating]

live?

Nakdsub asks, because he's one of those trolls whose idea of erotica is a cheating wife and her lover being tortured to death.

 

[shesnotcheating]

This was still true long after Arthurian times and extended much lower than royalty. The Lord of the Manor had this right over all his serfs. Google the Latin phrase "jus primae noctis" or its equivalent in French "droit du seigneur" for more details.

There are a few stories on here which include this!

While this idea has been used in film, most notably "Braveheart", and literature, there is actually no reliable historical evidence that such a right ever existed, in any place, or at any level of rulership.

Which doesn't mean it isn't an interesting fictional concept.

There's an old science fiction short story - I don't remember the name- that has an interesting twist. In a post apocalyptic future, in the years just after a nuclear holocaust, the ruler of a settlement exercises this right with every bride. The groom in the story fights against this "injustice" but is captured and the truth explained to him. It turns out that all males living at the time of the holocaust are sterile, with the exception of the ruler(I can't remember why this is so, but the story makes it clear that this is the truth, rather than a ruse). This then is the true mark of manliness in this society, to have the maturity to raise another man's child for the good of humanity.

 

[nakdsub]

Actually No!...

I certainly am not a troll in that I have seldom given any story I've read fewer than 3*. Nor have I ever advocated torturing women or anyone else. I am someone who believes in fidelity unlike our sick friend here who gets off watching his wife fuck as many guys as she can. I only use (sick) as a personal attack because I was personally attacked myself.

So I guess you have to make the decision yourself, am I a troll for believing sex should remain an unbroken vow between man and wife, or is this jackass a troll for not being able to get his rocks off unless his wife is being gang banged in front of him, and then attacks others because they believe differently than him?

Nakdsub asks, because he's one of those trolls whose idea of erotica is a cheating wife and her lover being tortured to death.

 

[shesnotcheating]

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[nakdsub]

You're the one who started with the personal attacks...

how so? at the wedding reception? do you invite him to? does he pay you for the privilege?

This is the post that was above mine. I wrote mine as an add-on as a joke. For this I get attacked?

It obviously does not do any good to send you a "private" message since you're going to post them anyway. So, if you want a public war, I'll give it to you! Or, we can drop it here, it's up to you.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

monogamy is a crock of baloney - but that is just my humble opinion. It is such a new social construction - never existed in the past, and still doesn't exist in most societies (including those who claim moral superiority over all others, like the U.S.!) I mean, just read the bible! but, ultimately, who gives a fuck. Fantasies are fantasies.

"a public war"??? I would hope our mental capacities are a little above the 8th grade level, but... one can only hope.

As for the fantasy - another question - how many women who marry these days are virgins to begin with?

In Lebanon and Egypt (and undoubtedly a few other countries where hypocritical patriarchy reigns), so I've been informed, the most common form of plastic surgery is hymen replacement before a girl's wedding!

What if a guy, his mother particularly, wants to "check" if his fiancee is a virgin or not. The mothers' brother happens to be a doctor and they send the girl to him for the check (not unlike the story of the military doctor giving virginity checks to women who participated in the protests in Egypt). The girl knows she is going to be found out, so fakes being turned on by the doctor as he fingers her, seducing him into sex. Of course he varifies to his sister and nephew that she is a virgin.

Now he has a new business, and starts advertising to concerned mother in-laws to be that he provides safe virginity checks...

Ok, probably not quite the idea of the OP...

 

[jeninflorida]

In Arthurian times, the King was allowed the privilege of taking the virginity of any bride on her wedding night; the groom would just have to wait and take sloppy seconds. There have been a few movies based on this concept.

But a great story could be spun around this idea. Imagine the husband who has no tolerance for his liege despoiling his wife. What will he do? Secretly take her virginity just before the ceremony? Or hire thugs to waylay (and sodomize) the sovereign on his way to the matrimonial tent? Or perhaps arrange for a threesome? The possibilities are endless!

can you imagine that? some day I'll write a story about a king...lol

 

[shesnotcheating]

monogamy is a crock of baloney - but that is just my humble opinion. It is such a new social construction - never existed in the past, and still doesn't exist in most societies (including those who claim moral superiority over all others, like the U.S.!) I mean, just read the bible! but, ultimately, who gives a fuck. Fantasies are fantasies.

"a public war"??? I would hope our mental capacities are a little above the 8th grade level, but... one can only hope.

As for the fantasy - another question - how many women who marry these days are virgins to begin with?

In Lebanon and Egypt (and undoubtedly a few other countries where hypocritical patriarchy reigns), so I've been informed, the most common form of plastic surgery is hymen replacement before a girl's wedding!

What if a guy, his mother particularly, wants to "check" if his fiancee is a virgin or not. The mothers' brother happens to be a doctor and they send the girl to him for the check (not unlike the story of the military doctor giving virginity checks to women who participated in the protests in Egypt). The girl knows she is going to be found out, so fakes being turned on by the doctor as he fingers her, seducing him into sex. Of course he varifies to his sister and nephew that she is a virgin.

Now he has a new business, and starts advertising to concerned mother in-laws to be that he provides safe virginity checks...

Ok, probably not quite the idea of the OP...

As far as virginity, while it is not nearly as common as it once was, it's not nearly as uncommon as some on these boards would make it out to be.

The CDC reports that 8% of never married heterosexual women in their 30's are still virgins.

So, it's certainly not uncommon enough to make it an inconceivable plot device for a fantasy.

 

[sassysasha89]

taking your wife's virginity

impregnates both wife and daughter.

reduces husband's manhood by fucking his ass

has a friend drill a pussy into husband's/boyfriend's asshole while he fucked and knocked up his wife and/or daughter, making him watch in the process

turns son into a cock-loving faggot or an ass-taking stud and takes his father's ass-cherry

 

[shesnotcheating]

This is the post that was above mine. I wrote mine as an add-on as a joke. For this I get attacked?

It obviously does not do any good to send you a "private" message since you're going to post them anyway. So, if you want a public war, I'll give it to you! Or, we can drop it here, it's up to you.

If you really can't see how your "joke" was an attack on the OP and all who share his interests, I'm simply not going to be able to explain it to you.

I overreacted in my initial response. But, to say that your "joke" wasn't a troll is either disingenuous or exhibits a complete lack of sensitivity. Did you really believe that you'd upset no one with your "joke"?

Again, this is an ideas forum. What is expected are posts that enlarge upon the idea. Not quite on target but acceptable, are posts that encourage the OP or other posters, such as "Wow, great idea, I'd read it."

What is neither expected nor helpful in this forum are suggestions that there's something wrong with the poster's ideas and moral fiber.

I understand your attachment to fidelity. But, no one is coming to this forum looking for lifestyle or relationship advice. They want advice on how to write a hot story. Some people will find this sentence hot:

"Oh, honey, I had no idea a cock could be so big. I know I've never given you a blowjob, but I just have to taste his cock."

Obviously, you're not one of them. That being the case, I think you'd be alot happier, and make others happier, if you skipped the wife sharing threads.

I'm done. I've spent all the energy on this that I'm going to spend.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

hmmm, says he believes in fidelity... I can't help but wonder if his wife knows he is on here...

I think there is a story here though, the "believes in fidelity" guy, Mr. Moral Righteousness, is invited over to their new neighbors home with his wife and kids. It is a lovely afternoon getting to know them, they seem so perfect to have as neighbors. but then it slips out, they are swingers and they invite Mr. MR and wife to their house warming swingers party. He is outraged, lambasting them for their lack of moral fiber, destorying the community, blah, blah, blah.

Then the night of the party, Mr. MR happens to be taken the garbage down to the street when he sees a few couples enter the neighbor's home - and dayum, the women look very hot and sexy. He hides in his den with a pair of binoculars, but the the window shades all seem to be closed. Soon he finds himself sneaking next door, peeping through the windows, watching the hot action. he can't help but start rubbing his cock, soon pulling it out and masturbating watching his new neighbor take 2 cocks while her husband watches.

Ah, but what happens when he gets caught??? do they humiliate him? Call his wife to come over and collect him? tie him up and invite her to join in - which she gladly does, as his sex drive is boring at best? or, take the high road, invite him in to watch, do what he likes - no judging, no ridiculing?

 

[shesnotcheating]

hmmm, says he believes in fidelity... I can't help but wonder if his wife knows he is on here...

I think there is a story here though, the "believes in fidelity" guy, Mr. Moral Righteousness, is invited over to their new neighbors home with his wife and kids. It is a lovely afternoon getting to know them, they seem so perfect to have as neighbors. but then it slips out, they are swingers and they invite Mr. MR and wife to their house warming swingers party. He is outraged, lambasting them for their lack of moral fiber, destorying the community, blah, blah, blah.

Then the night of the party, Mr. MR happens to be taken the garbage down to the street when he sees a few couples enter the neighbor's home - and dayum, the women look very hot and sexy. He hides in his den with a pair of binoculars, but the the window shades all seem to be closed. Soon he finds himself sneaking next door, peeping through the windows, watching the hot action. he can't help but start rubbing his cock, soon pulling it out and masturbating watching his new neighbor take 2 cocks while her husband watches.

Ah, but what happens when he gets caught??? do they humiliate him? Call his wife to come over and collect him? tie him up and invite her to join in - which she gladly does, as his sex drive is boring at best? or, take the high road, invite him in to watch, do what he likes - no judging, no ridiculing?

Or, perhaps there's no metion of a party, just that they are swingers. The same moral outrage, etc. Months go by, he's home alone on a Friday night. The kids are staying at friends' houses, his wife has her monthly quilting bee.
Having descended to his basement "mancave" at 7pm to watch the ball game, he's unaware of the arriving cars. But, when the games over at 10:30, he comes upstairs and realizes what's happening.

Outraged anew, he starts to storm next door, but curiousity overwhelms him and he starts peeping as you describe. His rage builds, until he peeks in one window and sees his wife isn't at a quilting bee. She is instead in one of his neighbors bedrooms, airtight. Rage is replaced by shock, which in turn is replaced by arousal.

 

[shesnotcheating]

Of course, to prevent being thread highjackers, we need to make Mr. Fidelity engaged, not married. His wife is not his wife, but his fiancee. Unbeknownst to Mr.F, though a virgin, she's very frustrated by his insistence to wait for their wedding night, still a year away.

 

[Lost_Yonder]

Of course, good point. and to build upon an earlier idea, the new neighbor is a deposed king from some far off land, where there is a tradition of the king deflowering young brides to be. Now the king is sad, no virgins to be had. The neighbor's fiancee feels sorry for him and offers herself to him...

 

[shesnotcheating]

I certainly am not a troll in that I have seldom given any story I've read fewer than 3*. Nor have I ever advocated torturing women or anyone else. I am someone who believes in fidelity unlike our sick friend here who gets off watching his wife fuck as many guys as she can. I only use (sick) as a personal attack because I was personally attacked myself.

So I guess you have to make the decision yourself, am I a troll for believing sex should remain an unbroken vow between man and wife, or is this jackass a troll for not being able to get his rocks off unless his wife is being gang banged in front of him, and then attacks others because they believe differently than him?

The verbatim comment by nakdsub from a story called "Nice Guys Finish Last" in the Loving Wives section:

Can I finish the story?

Steve gets out of bed, smashes in the door, runs into the bed room with a baseball bat and works Paul over so hill never personally train anyone again. He tells his ex wife hill kill her if she doesn't claim that Paul raped her and he gets off. She is so terrified now of Steve that she accepts a very small settle in the divorce.

But, he's not a troll.

 

[Martha39]

http://www.infoocean.info/avatar3.jpgThis was still true long after Arthurian times and extended much lower than royalty.