Another Class of Victims...

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Not another class of victims
Posted 5/29/2006 8:10 PM ET
By Heather Mac Donald

The moment is close at hand when the United States will be composed entirely of victim groups.

The news media have been sounding the alarm about a new gender crisis in education: Boys reportedly make up a declining portion of college students. And so the future is clear. Boys are poised to become the newest victim class.

OUR VIEW: More women graduate. Why?

That rustling sound you hear is the migration of university deans and "diversity" consultants to the next big employment bonanza: helping boys succeed!

The requisite bureaucracies are already in place: The professions and academia overflow with committees on the recruitment and retention of minorities and women; they will undoubtedly be only too happy to expand their mandate to boys.

Here's a better suggestion for the alleged gender gap in education: Do nothing. Or rather, do nothing in the name of boys per se. If boys are lagging in undergraduate enrollment, it's up to them to study harder and stay more focused. They don't need the inevitable new consulting boondoggles in order to pull up their own bootstraps.

To be sure, there is a clear culprit in the boy shortage: feminized progressive education. Teacher education programs preach contempt for competition and fact-based learning; K-12 classrooms follow suit. When schools place more importance on group collaboration than on achievement of mastery in a subject, many boys are going to tune out.

But the costs of creating wall-to-wall victim groups outweigh the benefits of using boys' new victim status to overthrow progressive pedagogy. Let's get rid of the knowledge-crushing banalities of progressive education because it drags down all students' learning, not because it hurts boys.

The refusal to declare and minister to a new needy population could be revolutionary. It could launch a shocking proposition: Not every problem requires a response from our bloated helping bureaucracies. Letting boys choose for themselves whether to compete academically just might unleash a dangerous revival of individual initiative.

Heather Mac Donald is a contributing editor at the Manhattan Institute's City Journal.
 
Hooray for common sense!

And I will never allow myself to be a victim. I've gotten myself seriously fucked over several times, but you know what? I[/] got myself there, put myself in that situation. No one else. So I probably got what I deserved, and any fighting that needed done, I did myself as well. I hope like hell I'm teaching my babies to grow up and fight for themselves, not whine until someone else does it for them.

Again... Hooray for common sense!
 
Men have more good career options available to them that don't require a college degree than women. Yes, women can be construction workers and firemen. But a female construction worker is the exception, not the rule. Women have more economic incentive to finish a degree. Women still dominate fields like teaching and nursing, but have closed a good chunk of the gap in Law and Medicine.

Frankly, young women are generally better at being responsible than young men are. This definitely helps in the college atmosphere.

I'm starting to believe in gender segregated primary education. I know it helps girls a lot. But I also think it helps boys too. Males tend to thrive under competition, so an all male classroom could be taught more towards boy's needs. Could academic success actually become a mark of honor and pride?

I guess that's my final point. Girls who get good grades are praised. Boys who play sports are praised. Doesn't take a genius to figure out which group will do better in college.
 
Rollback Title IX and then come talk to me.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
You know, I read something like this and shake my head.

Maybe I'm a throwback. Maybe I grew up strange. Maybe I am one of those who need a dinner jacket with wrap around sleeves but I firmly believe in self responsibility.

I don't feel that others owe me anything. Society doesn't owe me shit, including a higher education.

The Allies don't owe me shit because they defeated my parents and grandparents country twice and placed it under an oppresive rule for quite some time.

The United States Government doesn't owe me shit because I chose to work for it when I was too stupid to know better.

Nobody owes me a damned thing. I on the other hand owe a great many people a lot.

I owe my parents for trying to instil their values in me.

I owe the public schools in several states for my education, and I owe the teachers in these schools for trying to teach me.

I am ultimately responsible for my actions, my failings and my triumphs. AS are we all.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
You know, I read something like this and shake my head.

Maybe I'm a throwback. Maybe I grew up strange. Maybe I am one of those who need a dinner jacket with wrap around sleeves but I firmly believe in self responsibility.

I don't feel that others owe me anything. Society doesn't owe me shit, including a higher education.

The Allies don't owe me shit because they defeated my parents and grandparents country twice and placed it under an oppresive rule for quite some time.

The United States Government doesn't owe me shit because I chose to work for it when I was too stupid to know better.

Nobody owes me a damned thing. I on the other hand owe a great many people a lot.

I owe my parents for trying to instil their values in me.

I owe the public schools in several states for my education, and I owe the teachers in these schools for trying to teach me.

I am ultimately responsible for my actions, my failings and my triumphs. AS are we all.

Cat


You're a wise man, Cat.

:rose:
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
You're a wise man, Cat.

:rose:

That my Lady, is one of the highest compliments I have ever received.

I thank you for that.
:rose:

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
That my Lady, is one of the highest compliments I have ever received.

I thank you for that.
:rose:

Cat


Post after post, you display your intelligence, your graciousness and your common sense.

Thank you.

:rose:
 
Yeah

sweetsubsarahh said:
You're a wise man, Cat.

:rose:

I'd like to second that. I would have said something similar, but you said it better anyway.
 
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