Android sex

[fogbank]

Anybody got any ideas for it? I want to write a series of short stories set in the near future (maybe 2030 or so?) about an android exploring his (or her--I haven't decided on that yet) sexuality. Yeah, it's probably been done before, but not by me. But when I start trying to come up with ideas for scenarios, I'm finding it suprisingly difficult.

I'm intending it as being fairly lighthearted, socially and technologically conscious erotica, combined with a bit of existential soul-searching.

 

[J.Q. Hack]

I think there are several paths you could take this story that would pay off in the end.

One would be to explore how a software defect or missing component in the android leads it to be socially inept, shy & awkward or perhaps gay. I imagine a world where the andoids are pre-programmed to do similar things and act in similar ways so one with a missing program would not fit in at all.

Second, perhaps this world has strict lines that humans and androids do not cross. Now imagine what would happen if an android lusts after or falls in love with a human or vice versa. How would friends and other androids react to this or how would the law and the establishment handle these socially taboo topics?

Third, what sort of kinky behavior would androids engage in? Since they would be some sort of machine it could be a lot different than anything humans participate in. Would the humans try to stop this behavior and make the androids conform with human actions or perhaps a small subset of humans would try to do what androids do even if it is very risky.

I hope these ideas give you something to think about or get you started in a good direction with your story. I know lately I've been trying to come up with my own sci fi erotic story.

J.Q. Hack

 

[nushu2]

Reminded of that android gigolo in the movie A.I. Seeing as how the movie was essentially for kids, his function was not deeply explored. The other theme of A.I. is "technochio".

There is the Pygmallion angle too. Pygmallion is an ancient Greek myth about a sculptor that hated women but fell in love with a statue he created. Men can be such Pygs.

I can imagine a series developing from a special creation getting stolen or lost into a sexbot role. In other words, Pornochio. Obvious jokes about what could happen if he/she/it lies but lying is an indication of humanity and imagination.

The only other suggestion I could make is watch Bladerunner again or the book it was based on, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wouldn't suggest using the idea of a limited lifetime but there are all kinds of limits, as J.Q. was saying.

Warning: The SF section of Lit is one of the least read but has it's fans. SF series are even less appreciated. Like the horror section, don't get disappointed by a small, quiet, but loyal readership. Good luck fog.

 

[vargas111]

I like the idea of an android (f) who is purchased for housekeeping duties and some general notions of pleasing her owner (m) stumbles across an erotic story site like Literoticai and "learns" that men like all sorts of kinky sex. It could be done in chapters as she discoveres the different genre, vanilla, exhibitionism, BSDM, Femdon, cheat, adn finally (in the Homer Vargas version <g>) has herself fixed so she can have the guy's babies.

 

[fogbank]

Heh, I've now had Vargas suggest I put pregnancy in my stories! I truly feel like part of the community now!

Thanks for some great ideas, all three of you!

Hack, your idea about disfunctional personality traits in androids is definitely something I'm hoping to be working with. Maybe the android is constantly going to a programmer to get 'tweaked', just as a human going to a shrink, and some of the tweaks have weird effects, like turning him gay.
Definitely it would be interesting to explore the taboo between androids and humans. The idea of an android lusting after his hot female programmer also provides some interest. Ties in the pygmallion idea, too.

Nushu, I had definitely thought a bit about the Jude Law character from A.I. Great character. I'm thinking that that my character would more likely be a robot not programmed with sexual performance as a primary function, but having a severe envy of the gigolobots.

 

[J.Q. Hack]

Another crazy story idea just popped into my head. I'm thinking of a story line that is a mixture of detective/sci-fi. Over the course of several months the police become more and more aware of a theft ring that specializes in stealing androids and having them re-programmed into sex androids.

Why do androids need re-programmed? This could be a function of the world you create. Maybe the future is highly moralistic and sex isn't even discussed. Perhaps there is a safety issue that androids no matter how finely tuned could still unintentionally hurt a human during sex. Perhaps the sex industry in the future is somehow marginalized and the highest quality androids are made by a few producers for non-sex reasons so thefts occur.

What happens when these stolen androids are given back to the people they were stollen from? You could explore how the android can't fully be reprogrammed back to its original tasks and is now sexualized. Or irritating habits from its sex re-programming occasionally emerge for embarassing results.

I hope this helps some.
J.Q. Hack

 

[J.Q. Hack]

Another crazy story idea just popped into my head. I'm thinking of a story line that is a mixture of detective/sci-fi. Over the course of several months the police become more and more aware of a theft ring that specializes in stealing androids and having them re-programmed into sex androids.

Why do androids need re-programmed? This could be a function of the world you create. Maybe the future is highly moralistic and sex isn't even discussed. Perhaps there is a safety issue that androids no matter how finely tuned could still unintentionally hurt a human during sex. Perhaps the sex industry in the future is somehow marginalized and the highest quality androids are made by a few producers for non-sex reasons so thefts occur.

What happens when these stolen androids are given back to the people they were stollen from? You could explore how the android can't fully be reprogrammed back to its original tasks and is now sexualized. Or irritating habits from its sex re-programming occasionally emerge for embarassing results.

I hope this helps some.
J.Q. Hack

 

[fogbank]

Interesting ideas--actually, the idea I started working on over the weekend is actually about an android detective, originally designed as a forensic robot for police forces, but then following a few wars and a general decay of society, becomes a private investigator.

The story line you were suggested might work really nicely with this character. I'll do a bit more planning on it, sketch it out and see if it works with my characters.

One of the other ideas I came up with is a female character who's also an android, originally designed as a nanny--complete with British accent and lovely milk-producing breasts. In this society, she would be highly sought-after as a android to modify into a sexdroid. I see the story following a standard Phillip-Marlow type mystery with the dame coming to him, explaining the case, and he starts investigating, and of course it turns out to be a lot deeper and more complex than originally thought.

You raise the problem of a reason for the shortage of sex androids. The way I see it, in a major war, those androids that could serve would be drafted into the the army, so that loss of human life is minimalized. Sex androids would have been drafted since most of them are extremely physically fit robots. Most of these robots were destroyed, and civilization was set back enough that a wide-scale sexdroid manufacturing effort just isn't feasable. Infact, there would be very few 'new' robots, most would predate the war.

 

[J.Q. Hack]

I like the idea of milk producing android nannys, originally produced to supplement and aid human mothers with rearing their infants come into high demand in the sex android business. Why? Perhaps because the milk producing process in the nannys is a highly guarded trade secret so its easier to just steal them.

I think the idea of an android war to fight a draft is good to explain the shortage of sex robots but the idea that they are physically more developed doesn't strike me as plausible. After all they are androids and any different type of android would seem plausible as a draftee due to similar mechanics across models.

Anyhow, I like your thoughts on the story and would love to read it. This thread is starting to give me ideas of my own, too.

 

[sartana]

All this talk of android sex and scifi/detective novel makes me think of Blade Runner(my all time favorite movie).Sean Young(Rachel)is gorgeous.

 

[Dennis13]

i liked the idea of the robot always going in for tweaks to his/her programming. some other ideas to go with this could be

a- robot is sending itself in because it keeps thinking it needs to make it's owner happier

b- there's a virus in the robot that keeps fighting the tweaks and makes the robot even more "dysfunctional" than normal each time

c- is there any sort of robot internet? ie like in I Robot
(how would the world react if suddenly all robots wanted to give sex?)

 

[vargas111]

(how would the world react if suddenly all robots wanted to give sex?)

Happier. Like if all women wanted to give sex.

 

[Dennis13]

the stuff of dreams....and erotic stories

 

[J.Q. Hack]

I think that the idea of androids needing to get there software updated every so often could lead to very funny results. For example a sexbot that isn't interested in sex anymore after her new software isn't compatible with a pre-existing version. Or maybe a glitch causes an android to "freeze" up in mid-orgasm. I imagine the variations are endless considering the amount of problems everybody has with their own computers, just imagine those amplified into robots.

 

[Shendude]

Nitpick:

Contrary to common belief, an android is not a robot.

An android is similar to a robot, but is made of organic materials.

 

[fogbank]

Shendude, good point about the android/robot difference. Is there a word for creations that are a mix of electronic/organic materials (probably grown from modified human DNA, but enhanced with mechanical parts and circuitry right from conception)? Is it still an android or is it a robot, or is it something inbetween?

Good ideas, Hack/Dennis. I'm thinking about a world where the major informational infrastructure (Internet) has collapsed, so androids (I'll use that term for now) who had previously relied heavily on data hookups are now forced to get by without--having to use language and speech to communicate, even with other robots/androids.


In my planning of my series of stories, my original idea about it being light-hearted has fallen by the wayside. It's now a fairly bleak-looking set of stories. But still very sexy, hopefully.

 

[Shendude]

Shendude, good point about the android/robot difference. Is there a word for creations that are a mix of electronic/organic materials (probably grown from modified human DNA, but enhanced with mechanical parts and circuitry right from conception)? Is it still an android or is it a robot, or is it something inbetween?

That would be a cyborg. And now you're confusing Gengineered humans w/ androids. An android IS NOT HUMAN. It's an automaton made from organic materials.

Incidentally, the "Robots", in Kapek's RUR, where the word comes from, are actually androids.

 

[fogbank]

That would be a cyborg. And now you're confusing Gengineered humans w/ androids. An android IS NOT HUMAN. It's an automaton made from organic materials.

Incidentally, the "Robots", in Kapek's RUR, where the word comes from, are actually androids.

Okay, but androids, as the concept was described in blade-runner (obviously not the only reference point for discussions of androids, but reasonably well-known work) are essentially subservient clones based on humans, as far as I remember. The biomechanical organisms I'm using would be essentially like that, but with a significant electromechanical component. I'm not sure I understand your distinction between 'gengineered humans' and the androids of Blade Runner.

(I'm not bringing this up to be antagonistic or anything. I definitely want to make sure that I'm understanding the terminology.)

 

[nushu2]

I thought that the difference between androids and robots were that androids were human appearing. Wasn't Data, on Star Trek TNG, an android?

 

[nushu2]

"Cyborg" was the name of the book that led to Six Million Dollar Man.

 

[avalon_sunset]

What about sex machines?

Hey guys,
There are already sex monsters, machines that do nothing but unsubtle human fucking! I've seen some stunning film of women, young and mature, being boned or vibrated into a blissful state by crude machines (adapted industrial machines). I suggest that if a person is happy to brought off by a machine, then they really just want to wanked!

On the other hand, in the scenes you are trying to explore, the machines are more human, and perhaps have desires and objective. It is easier for a sensitive woman to be laid by a machine with human characteristics but it is still just a sex machine. Maybe the android could have changeable parts, a long dong, a thicky, a long and floppy one, a double one(!) a variable sized tongue; what about an android that could tangle its mistress in a soft silky web like a spider and (gently) force her into delightful sex scene?

With regard to actually writing the story, the best way I think, is to start! Just write a paragraph, once you are typing, the plot and scenes just develop in your mind, in a few minutes you won't be able to type fast enough!

Maybe we can all contribute a scene on this thread that may give you an idea or two.

Good luck, you have something that could generate lots of ideas.
avalon

 

[Shendude]

I thought that the difference between androids and robots were that androids were human appearing. Wasn't Data, on Star Trek TNG, an android?

That's cuz he's not a robot. On several occasions they've noted that he has organic parts.

"Cyborg" was the name of the book that led to Six Million Dollar Man.

I'm aware of that. However, the word "cyborg" predates the book. It's an abbreviaton of CYBernetic ORGanism.

 

[Sabledrake]

Fully Functional -- my Data story; an oldie but a goodie! The boys in Engineering build Data a woman for his birthday.

Sabledrake

 

[Dennis13]

I think that the idea of androids needing to get there software updated every so often could lead to very funny results. For example a sexbot that isn't interested in sex anymore after her new software isn't compatible with a pre-existing version. Or maybe a glitch causes an android to "freeze" up in mid-orgasm. I imagine the variations are endless considering the amount of problems everybody has with their own computers, just imagine those amplified into robots.

I can only imagine how unhelpful the help phone line would be

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

— Definitions —

robot
noun
1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.

2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.


The term Robot dates back to Carl Kapek’s 1925 play “R. U. R. ” (Rossem’s Universal Robots) Robot being derived from Czech ‘robota,’ meaning “servitude or forced labor.”

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cyborg
noun — a human who has certain physiological processes aided or controlled by mechanical or electronic devices.

Cyborg as previously mention is a contraction of cybernetic organism, and I personally can recall seeing the term in a novel by Robert A. Heinlein written in the late 40's.

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android
adj — possessing human features.

noun — an automaton that is created from biological materials and resembles a human. Also called humanoid .

In fact Asimov’s robots were actually androids (and often referred to as such) except for an occasional mention of warships or agricultural equipment robots also being run by ‘positronic brains.’

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With that settled, I should advise to advance your story more than twenty-five years into the future (2030) as originally suggested. Unless your story is to illustrate the initial clash between society and the newly-available technology, twenty-five years is hardly enough time. The technology might be ready by 2030 but society will probably take longer. Minds are slower to change than technology.

As for your “machines that do nothing but unsubtle human fucking”. here is an early model of what is being discussed.

No I don’t own one. Someone brought the subject up in Author’s Hangout.

I understand there is also a male coupling unit, but have not seen any photos.