Andrew Yang's Forward Party

[pecksniff]

He's trying to start one.

Political positions

The party's platform includes instituting 18-year term limits for members of Congress.[12] It also seeks to establish a new cabinet-level Department of Technology. The party supports civic juries and advocates for a "citizens' portal". The party supports data as a property right.[19] The PAC calls for an economy based on "human-centered capitalism", the enactment of universal basic income,[8][20] and support for alternative forms of measuring economic progress.[19]

The party advocates automatic tax filing,[21] and is in favor of "reasonable and rational" regulation of cryptocurrencies.[22] The party's platform supports the implementation of a universal health care system,[23] and it encourages states to adopt nonpartisan primaries and implement ranked-choice voting, a concept Yang draws from political theorist and businesswoman Katherine Gehl called Final-Five Voting.[8][20] It also proposes independent redistricting commissions and public finance reform in the form of democracy dollars.[19] The party encourages people to maintain their membership in the Democratic and Republican parties as to not disenfranchise them by leaving them unable to vote in party primaries.[9][24] As a consequence, the Forward Party plans to endorse candidates from both parties as well as independents who advocate for the core values rather than field their own.[9]

Reception

The Forward Party has faced criticism from some Democrats, who believe the party could have a spoiler effect and benefit Republicans.[25] Luke Savage of Jacobin criticized the conception of the party as "pseudo-populism that's ultimately more an effort at rebranding the status quo than overthrowing it."[26] MSNBC opinion columnist Zeeshan Aleem called the Forward Party "an uninspiring mess lacking vision or purpose."[27]

Natalie Shure of The New Republic characterized the party as "vapid" and a "political stunt", asking, "why bother going through the trouble of building a third party if its creation is the only thing it intends to accomplish?"[28] Others praised the party, including opinion writer for The New York Times, Kara Swisher, who said "Yang does not just give us a laundry list of intractable problems, but shows how we can find solutions if we think in new ways and summon the courage to do so."[10]

Does this have any chance?

 

[Rightguide]

It will go nowhere. It will divide the Democrat Party though.

 

[GothTalk]

"human centered capitalism"...... meaning NOT capitalism LOL

 

[pecksniff]

"human centered capitalism"...... meaning NOT capitalism LOL

Sounds like you don't think much of capitalism.

 

[GothTalk]

Sounds like you don't think much of capitalism.

Why wouldn't I as a capitalist support capitalism??

 

[pecksniff]

Why wouldn't I as a capitalist support capitalism??

I dunno, but if you think it can't be something "human-centered" then you don't think much of it.

 

[GothTalk]

I dunno, but if you think it can't be something "human-centered" then you don't think much of it.

Just because I laugh at the lefts attempts to rebrand a government controlled economy as some sort of capitalism doesn't mean I don't think much of capitalism.

It means I know what it actually is and am not buying your lies.

 

[pecksniff]

Just because I laugh at the lefts attempts to rebrand a government controlled economy as some sort of capitalism doesn't mean I don't think much of capitalism.

It means I know what it actually is and am not buying your lies.

Yang is a capitalist too, you know. In a professional sense. Is he No True Capitalist if he wants things like UBI and UHC?

 

[GothTalk]

Yang is a capitalist too, you know. In a professional sense.

Yes I realize he's a "Capitalism for me, socialism for thee!!!" kind of elitist just like most leftist.

 

[pecksniff]

My concern is that the Forward Party will go the way of the Reform Party. The Reform Party was never more than a campaign vehicle for Ross Perot, who stubbornly blocked all efforts to turn it into something more, e.g., by running candidates for offices other than the presidency, so without him it died out. Can the Forward Party be more than a Yang vehicle?

 

[pecksniff]

TLDR News video on the Forward Party, looking at whether it is better classified as a "pressure group" than a political party.

 

[pecksniff]

Yes I realize he's a "Capitalism for me, socialism for thee!!!" kind of elitist just like most leftist.

Actually, most of America's elite are like, "socialism for me, capitalism for thee."

 

[GothTalk]

Actually, most of America's elite are like, "socialism for me, capitalism for thee."

Since when???

Amazon didn't get locked down or regulated out of existence like thousands of small businesses.

Silicon valley didn't get regulated out of existence like uber drivers and independent contractors.

Wall street wasn't shut down like the Keystone pipeline....


Once again....like always.... you've got socialism and capitalism all fucked up.

Government controlled economy isn't capitalism peck.

 

[Wrong Element]

He's trying to start one.



Does this have any chance?

A vanity project for Yang, basically, which he'll abandon once he gets bored. If the past is any indication, that won't take long.

This is leaving aside that structural barriers to the success of third parties in our system. The last challenger party to succeed in this country had a simple message — no more expansion of slavery — that both resonated and could not be easily copied by the existing parties. "Support for alternative forms of measuring economic progress," whatever the fuck that means, is not going to mobilize the forgotten masses.

 

[pecksniff]

Since when???

Since they figured out how corporate welfare works.

 

[pecksniff]

A vanity project for Yang, basically, which he'll abandon once he gets bored. If the past is any indication, that won't take long.

This is leaving aside that structural barriers to the success of third parties in our system. The last challenger party to succeed in this country had a simple message — no more expansion of slavery — that both resonated and could not be easily copied by the existing parties. "Support for alternative forms of measuring economic progress," whatever the fuck that means, is not going to mobilize the forgotten masses.

But third parties can have influence. One reason we don't hear much about the Socialist Party any more is that FDR copied the more moderate parts of its platform.

 

[GothTalk]

Since they figured out how corporate welfare works.

Oh, the problem here is you don't understand what socialism or capitalism are.

Figures.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Since when???

At least since you started getting welfare checks and excoriating others for receiving government assistance.

You know, the ole "Rules for thee, not for me" garbage you've been promoting for years

#GovernmentWelfareRecipient
#ItNotWelfareWhen*I*GetsIt
#ButButThatsDifferent
#I"Earn"MyWelfare

 

[pecksniff]

Oh, the problem here is you don't understand what socialism or capitalism are.

Figures.

Is not "crony capitalism" a form of socialism for capitalists?

They get to privatize the benefits of business, and shift the costs to society. That's "socialism for me, capitalism for thee."

 

[GothTalk]

At least since you started getting welfare checks and excoriating others for receiving government assistance.

You know, the ole "Rules for thee, not for me" garbage you've been promoting for years

#GovernmentWelfareRecipient
#ItNotWelfareWhen*I*GetsIt
#ButButThatsDifferent
#I"Earn"MyWelfare

I've never gotten welfare Rob.

Let me know when you wish to do something other than generate lies and fantasies.

 

[GothTalk]

Is not "crony capitalism" a form of socialism for capitalists?

They get to privatize the benefits of business, and shift the costs to society. That's "socialism for me, capitalism for thee."

Yes, that's why it's not capitalism.

No, that's socialism for thee (society bares the burden) and capitalism (freedom of commerce) for the elites.

Just like the whole covid thing, lockdowns and mandates for everyone but elites!!!

 

[pecksniff]

Yes, that's why it's not capitalism.

No, that's socialism for thee (society bares the burden) and capitalism (freedom of commerce) for the elites.

Just like the whole covid thing, lockdowns and mandates for everyone but elites!!!

More from the denizen of Bizarro World, who keeps telling everybody else they see things backwards.

 

[GothTalk]

More from the denizen of Bizarro World, who keeps telling everybody else they see things backwards.

How exactly am I backwards here??

I'm not the one confused about what capitalism and socialism are, I'm not the one with their meanings switched.

You need a dictionary.

 

[ll74]

Seems to me that it's not really a party at all....just a super PAC.

 

[Chernosoth]

He could have it ready to replace the Dems if they implode that much, but Yang is smoking hopium with his progressive ideas.