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[4est_4est_Gump]

I see what you did there. Now I can't yell at Slob anymore for using that epithet against you.

Okay, I'll raise it to $.50 if you put man-boob on ignore.

 

[kbate]

Okay, I'll raise it to $.50 if you put man-boob on ignore.

Rob's already gone. Merc still makes me laugh with his vehemence and dogged adherence to 'Defend Democrat, no matter the topic'.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Rob's already gone. Merc still makes me laugh with his vehemence and dogged adherence to 'Defend Democrat, no matter the topic'.

Yeah after assuring us that he is not a partisan; he is the only original thinker here and certainly the only person who recognizes a valid source when he sees one he likes...

 

[RobDownSouth]

AJ posts something completely off-topic as usual and I need to make a counter argument, eh?

There's a reason for that....
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/Soonyigump/kbate_gump_zpsf0d58444.jpg

 

[RobDownSouth]

Rob's already gone.

I'm right here, my short fingered vulgarian friend!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

8:00 Alt switch!

 

[RobDownSouth]

8:00 Alt switch!

Had to work late last night, my situational Native American friend.

And as you well know, anything I have to say to you I'll use this, my one and only userid.

...unlike you.

 

[kbate]

8:00 Alt switch!

Double Summons today!

The new whistle works!

 

[RobDownSouth]

I see what you did there. Now I can't yell at Slob anymore for using that epithet against you.

You'll find another reason to yell at me soon. You smug meta-commentary types always do.

 

[mercury14]

He absolutely reads nothing other than his POV.

He "knows" what is in it and like the debate he did not watch, "knows" that it is all lies...

Just because I see your supply-side economics as utter shit doesn't mean I don't read about it regularly. Last time you and I discussed it I asked you to show me one time when it's worked and you responded with a tsunami of off-topic Thinker C&Ps.

 

[mercury14]

8:00 Alt switch!

And this post is actually less stupid than the rest of what you've written today. It's all a total joke but when you use fewer characters you give yourself less of an opportunity to say stupid things.

 

[Ishmael]

I've been getting a kick out of watching the various 'talking heads' who are shilling for Obama sitting around telling everyone else how great the anointed one is. How the economy is really ramping up, yadda, yadda, yadda. They finagle with the numbers and statistics to make a case to support their suppositions. Fine, let them. They might even be able to convince some of the policy wonks out there that all of that crap is really true.

But I suspect the polls are beginning to reflect the day to day reality of the people who are forced to live in the real world. It's very difficult to convince some one that every thing is just great when they are buying gas at virtually a 100% more than 2 years ago. When the price of everything on their grocers shelf is almost 50%+ higher than it was 2 years ago. Food and energy hit the working folks, and the working poor in particular, right where they live and it hits hard. (Interesting how food and energy are NOT used in figuring out the CPI?) While the president and his cronies are busy trying to paint a rosy economic picture, the picture they are painting is not quite matching up to the reality that most Americans are living. And I believe that it is that disconnect that is beginning to manifest itself in the polls now.

Ishmael

 

[mercury14]

I've been getting a kick out of watching the various 'talking heads' who are shilling for Obama sitting around telling everyone else how great the anointed one is. How the economy is really ramping up, yadda, yadda, yadda. They finagle with the numbers and statistics to make a case to support their suppositions. Fine, let them. They might even be able to convince some of the policy wonks out there that all of that crap is really true.

But I suspect the polls are beginning to reflect the day to day reality of the people who are forced to live in the real world. It's very difficult to convince some one that every thing is just great when they are buying gas at virtually a 100% more than 2 years ago. When the price of everything on their grocers shelf is almost 50%+ higher than it was 2 years ago. Food and energy hit the working folks, and the working poor in particular, right where they live and it hits hard. (Interesting how food and energy are NOT used in figuring out the CPI?) While the president and his cronies are busy trying to paint a rosy economic picture, the picture they are painting is not quite matching up to the reality that most Americans are living. And I believe that it is that disconnect that is beginning to manifest itself in the polls now.

Ishmael

Meanwhile consumer confidence shot up to the highest level since 2007 last month. The media isn't talking about it much but business news is buzzing.

Energy prices are figured into the CPI, they're just not double-counted. The price of automobiles has energy priced into it because energy is bought when producing cars. Counting energy again in its direct price would invalidate the CPI. Nonetheless, energy prices are tracked separately as you probably know.

 

[mercury14]

Energy prices are down -0.6% in the past 12 months. And that's before the September numbers (due Oct 14th) where we saw gas prices retreat a bit. This seems completely contrary to your narrative Ish. Electricity is also down -1.2% (oh no, Obama coal regulations are jacking up our prices!). How do you reconcile these facts?

Here's the data since you're not going to do your own research:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

 

[Wrong Element]

The polls are always right!

Hahahaha. You mean the fixed CNN poll? get a grip man.

CB, keep one other thing in mind; these polls were put out by fairly liberal (at least I've never seen CNS called rw-radical propaganda, RATHER more as "mainstream" or "centrist") media to coincide with the opening of "Election Month" well ahead of even the first debate.

JUICED: PRO-OBAMA POLLS RELY ON RECORD DEM TURNOUT

by JOHN NOLTE 26 Sep 2012, 5:15 AM PDT

If you're going to believe the polls released from CBS/New York Times this morning -- you know, the polls the media's currently using to beat Romney senseless and to depress Republican enthusiasm, you have to believe that the turnout advantage for Democrats over Republicans will blow away every previous record and common sense.

The polls are always wrong!

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's very difficult to convince some one that every thing is just great when they are buying gas at virtually a 100% more than 2 years ago.

Sept 2010 average retail gas price: $2.87
Sept 2012 average retail gas price: $3.86

Using Ishmael's PatriotMath™, we can see that a 34.9% increase in gasoline is "virtually 100%".

When the price of everything on their grocers shelf is almost 50%+ higher than it was 2 years ago.

The US government announced food-at-home (i.e. grocery) prices are up
a hellish 1.5% for the past 12 months.

The other 48.5% rise in prices must've been the previous 12 months before that, right Ish? Right?

 

[koalabear]

Yeah, what does he know about this?


My new wheels had better fit!

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Power stop brakes!

 

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[mercury14]

Just reporting the facts as they are defined by the Pew Research Center.

I understand that you, an Obama toady, have VAST knowledge to the contrary, and hate to sit while rays of offending sunshine are cast full length across the dirt floor of your empty existence we call Denial, but tough shit.

Oh so an isolated poll is now a "fact". Unless it's from the Bolsheviks over at Rasmussen.

 

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