And the Mandates continue...

[fuckwaffle]

With prices at the pump worrying Americans, Republicans have railed against the Environmental Protection Agency’s new gas mandate that requires consumers to buy at least four gallons when purchasing from stations with hoses containing 10 percent and 15 percent ethanol-blended fuel.

On Monday, Republicans on the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology sent a letter to Environmental Protection Agency Chief Administrator Lisa Jackson criticizing the agency’s approval of the sale of gasoline containing 15 volume percent ethanol.

Specifically, the EPA will require that consumers purchase a minimum of four gallons when buying from a gas station that sells gasoline containing 10 percent ethanol and 15 percent ethanol — also known as “E15″ — out of the same gas pump.

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So now the EPA is telling you, you have to buy a minimum of 4 gallons of gasoline...when will these mandates end?

 

[mercury14]

Yawn.

Link?

 

[thør]

I only have a 2 1/2 gallon can.

 

[fuckwaffle]

Yawn.

Link?

There you go...I guess you're not mister-know-it-all after all.

 

[koalabear]

I only have a 2 1/2 gallon can.

I see a boom in gas can manufacturing!

 

[fuckwaffle]

I see a boom in gas can manufacturing!

My production line is already set to product 4.5 gallon gas cans.

 

[mercury14]

Okay dipshit, here you go.

The mandate only applies to E-15 hoses in the case where there's no separate hose for multiple fuels. Normally the nozzle is shaped differently so that it doesn't fit into tanks that cannot use E-15, however if the gas station only has old-style pumps that share a nozzle then there's an issue. The larger amount of gas means residual amounts of the (wrong) fuel would be appropriately diluted. Otherwise it's not safe to dispense these two types of fuel from the same hose.

Say the last guy at your pump filled up with E-15 and you're getting something else. You push the button to select your fuel grade and promptly pump an entire hose worth of the last guy's fuel into your tank. And if you're just buying a little bit of gas that can mean that a large percentage of what you just pumped is the wrong product.

The alternative is to mandate separate hoses which would have you even more up in arms or to let consumers get fucked over buy hoses that dispense a kind of fuel they didn't choose to buy.

Now tell me what your problem with this is.

 

[mercury14]

There you go...I guess you're not mister-know-it-all after all.

Don't let the fucking Daily Caller think for you. They're one of the hot, steaming turds of the media world.

I looked around and got the facts on my own and discovered that the Daily Caller lied by not reporting the whole story. And yes they lied on purpose because they chose not to report the EPA's reasoning which is written on Sen Sensenbrenner's web page that they quoted.

Why aren't you thinking for yourself here?

 

[fuckwaffle]

Okay dipshit, here you go.

The mandate only applies to E-15 hoses in the case where there's no separate hose. Normally the nozzle is shaped differently so that it doesn't fit into tanks that cannot use E-15, however if the gas station only has old-style pumps that share a nozzle then there's an issue. The larger amount of gas means residual amounts of the (wrong) fuel would be appropriately diluted. Otherwise it's not safe to dispense these two types of fuel from the same hose.

Say the last guy at your pump filled up with E-15 and you're getting something else. You push the button to select your fuel grade and promptly pump an entire hose worth of the last guy's fuel into your tank. And if you're just buying a little bit of gas that can mean that a large percentage of what you just pumped is the wrong product.

The alternative is to mandate separate hoses which would have you even more up in arms or to let consumers get fucked over buy hoses that dispense a kind of fuel they didn't choose to buy.

Now tell me what your problem with this is.

See, I knew you would agree with Big Government, what a surprise.

Problem, I only have a 2 gallon container, what then?

My motorcycle tank is only 2 gallons, what then?

Of course I can read and if I'm not the dumb shithead Big Government thinks I am, I would know what kind of blended fuel my vehicle can use without harm and go to either: a. a different pump, 2. a different station.

And if I am as stupid as Big Government thinks and believes I am, then I deserve to have my vehicle fucked up by buying the wrong fuel.

 

[fuckwaffle]

Don't let the fucking Daily Caller think for you. They're one of the hot, steaming turds of the media world.

I looked around and got the facts on my own and discovered that the Daily Caller lied by not reporting the whole story. And yes they lied on purpose because they chose not to report the EPA's reasoning which is written on Sen Sensenbrenner's web page that they quoted.

Why aren't you thinking for yourself here?

So it's not a mandate? Is this what you're saying? They lied about it being mandate?

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

it's 5 dollars a gallon here in CT

 

[mercury14]

See, I knew you would agree with Big Government, what a surprise.

Problem, I only have a 2 gallon container, what then?

My motorcycle tank is only 2 gallons, what then?

Of course I can read and if I'm not the dumb shithead Big Government thinks I am, I would know what kind of blended fuel my vehicle can use without harm and go to either: a. a different pump, 2. a different station.

And if I am as stupid as Big Government thinks and believes I am, then I deserve to have my vehicle fucked up by buying the wrong fuel.

Yes this is a case where government is the solution.

If you only have a 2 gallon tank you should not go to a gas station that uses shared nozzles because you risk getting a product that's not what you paid for despite advertising it as the product you want - and could destroy your motor. The EPA keeps you from doing that. If the mandate isn't in place, you're fucked.

 

[mercury14]

So it's not a mandate? Is this what you're saying? They lied about it being mandate?

It's a regulation more than a mandate. And I'm saying you're a moron for taking the Daily Caller at face value.

 

[unregistered]

 

[fuckwaffle]

It's a regulation more than a mandate.

Excuses, excuses. It's a tax. No it's fine. No it's a tax.

It's a requirement to buy more than maybe you want to buy, that's a mandate.

 

[fuckwaffle]

it's 5 dollars a gallon here in CT

So you now have to buy $20 worth each time you purchase gas for your car, truck, motorcycle, gas powered skateboard.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

So you now have to buy $20 worth each time you purchase gas for your car, truck, motorcycle, gas powered skateboard.

right now i don't have any but my 'honda 2 feet' lmfao

my car is in the shop right now, had to get my brakes fixed on all tires.

fuck a bmw, about to sell my shit... these cars are no joke when it comes
to fixing it up.

 

[fuckwaffle]

It's a regulation more than a mandate. And I'm saying you're a moron for taking the Daily Caller at face value.

There it is...don't agree with them and they call you names. Poor Merc. Nothing else to say, just name calling. Typical liberal, typical.

 

[fuckwaffle]

right now i don't have any but my 'honda 2 feet' lmfao

my car is in the shop right now, had to get my brakes fixed on all tires.

fuck a bmw, about to sell my shit... these cars are no joke when it comes
to fixing it up.

Yeah, the German imports are expensive to keep running after the warranty runs out.

 

[unregistered]

 

[fuckwaffle]

There is some hope:


Seven strikes, you're out? EPA court defeats keep piling up
by Sheldon Gilbert
Aug 22, 2012

It’s been a tough year in the courts for the EPA, according to an American Action Forum “scorecard” counting at least six job-killing-economy-slowing EPA regulatory actions that federal courts have struck down. We might add a seventh to AAF’s list – the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Sackett v. EPA, where the Court chastised the EPA for “strong-arming” regulated parties.

Last March, we blogged about three federal court decisions that slapped down the EPA for ignoring its legal obligations. Those decisions harshly criticized the EPA for “magical thinking” (Mingo Logan v. EPA); “unthinkable” conduct running roughshod over due process and property rights (Sackett v. EPA); and “overstepping” the bounds of the agency’s authority (Luminant Generation Co. v. EPA). Triple ouch.

Alas, when it comes to EPA regs, the rule isn’t three strikes and you’re out. August is starting to look a lot like March, with two separate federal courts rebuking the EPA for ignoring the plain text of the Clean Air Act and attempting to usurp the authority of the states’ to achieve air quality emissions standards.

Yesterday, the D.C. Circuit struck down the EPA’s “Cross-State Air Pollution Rule” that would have imposed $2.4 billion (at least!) in drastic new requirements on utilities in “upwind states” to curb emissions that could affect “downwind states” (EME Homer v. EPA). That sounds like a laudable objective - except, as the D.C. Circuit explained, the Clean Air Act already has a provision to address this very problem (colloquially called the “Good Neighbor” provision) - and the Act relegates the job to the states, not the EPA. The D.C. Circuit’s decision is “good news for consumers and for the reliability of our electricity grid,” according to Karen Harbert, president of the Chamber’s Energy Institute.

If the D.C. Circuit’s criticism of the EPA for stepping on state authority sounds familiar, it might be because last week, the Fifth Circuit overturned an EPA effort to take over Texas’s long-standing air quality permitting program (State of Texas, et al. v. EPA). The Fifth Circuit ruled that the EPA could not unilaterally dismantle the Texas program after letting it operate for 16 years. What’s more, the court reminded the EPA that the states play a “central role” in the Clean Air Act, and have “broad responsibility” and discretion regarding the means to achieve air quality standards set by the federal government.

Of course, there are still many misguided and unlawful EPA regulations working their way through the legal system, including the EPA’s $10 billion “blackout rule” (White Stallion Energy, et. al. v. EPA). And regulators have notched some victories in environmental cases, particularly in the Ninth Circuit. Indeed, last May, a blistering dissent by Judge Milan Smith criticized the Ninth Circuit for “stray[ing] with lamentable frequency from its constitutionally limited role” by deciding environmental cases based on policy preferences, rather than calling balls and strikes based on what the environmental laws actually require (Karuk Tribe v. USFS).

A Wall Street Journal editorial summarizes this string of EPA defeats well:

“The message is that regulators must follow the laws of the United States. Why do federal judges constantly have to remind EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson of this basic principle?”

Here’s to hoping that the EPA internalizes the courts’ message – soon – before more jobs are lost, and more damage is done to the economy.

'Cuz she's an Obamanite, thinks she's above the law of the land and can do anything she wants.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

Yeah, the German imports are expensive to keep running after the warranty runs out.

yeah i know.

i want a chevy impala 96' SS <--- that's my dream car right there... nothing fancy, but good as car. specially if you're a family man with more than 2kids

 

[fuckwaffle]

You're talking to a pair of moving lips mounted on the side of Obama's Ministry Of Truth.

I know, but it fun to poke him with a stick and see the spittle hit his screen while he types his responses, which are always the same tap dancing bullshit and name calling.

 

[fuckwaffle]

yeah i know.

i want a chevy impala 96' SS <--- that's my dream car right there... nothing fancy, but good as car. specially if you're a family man with more than 2kids

Yeah, no foreign car for me...'00 Monte Carlo. Not to expensive to keep it running.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

Yeah, no foreign car for me...'00 Monte Carlo. Not to expensive to keep it running.

monte carlo are good cars, you need the old school one though.. those are bad ass on the road, specially if you put money/power into it.