An unexpected development.

Fallesafe

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I've had kinky fantasies since I was a young kid, and I spent most of my life deeply ashamed of them. But I loosened up a lot in this last year and came to understand that being unusual is a huge part of who I am, and the thing that people usually end up liking me for.

So I decided to schedule a session with a pro-domme and explore some of these things without all the judgement. I was petrified as I sat in that dark, elegant room waiting to see her for the very first time. And she was unbelievably beautiful and arrogant in a way that just seemed inappropriate. She had the bearing of a countess and the intensity of a flamenco dancer.

The session was liberating. It smashed me and left me obsessed for a week (I just couldn't stop replaying pieces of it in my mind). I saw her every week after that for these last two months, and I've turned into another person. She unlocked places within me that I was terrified of, and she showed me how powerful I actually am -- But perhaps that was the problem.

It seemed that we were moving off track somehow, and I just couldn't place what was happening. She knew that I loved the single tail; and in one session, she laid her whips across the leather table top and asked me to choose the one I'd want her to use if I was going to beg her for mercy. I was startled by the question (since I couldn't imagine myself "begging" for anything). But I saw that one was made of heavier leather and had a hard knot tied in the end of it. That was the one.

She told me to choose my position, and I walked over to the suspension bar and grabbed onto it with both hands overhead. I began to sink into a state of determination that I'd rather pass out than give up. And she said that crazy thing to me again "Now, I want you to beg me for it." But instead I snapped. I thundered back at her "Hit me!" And I didn't know where the hell it came from. But she obliged. And for the next ten minutes she poured it on as hard as she could while I shouted her down and told her exactly how I expected it to be done. Some of the marks are still with me.

We had another session where the same thing happened. Although I relished it and felt invincible, I also felt like the sessions were losing my interest. And I finally figured out last night what was happening. I'm a hardcore massochist, but I'm just not interested in being submissive to anyone.

I've become obsessed lately with the artistry and the beauty of the whip. I ordered a custom 16 plait whip last week that I'm eagerly waiting on. And I'm constantly thinking about how I would do things if I were the dominant in a scene. It's turned very quickly into a real passion.

Great! But there are two problems:

1) What do I do about the Lady who opened this world up for me? She doesn't switch and she's not a sub. For whatever reason, I don't want to continue sessioning with her. Its like we had a certain kind of energy that was just abruptly broken. I really admire her, but it just doesn't "feel" the same. And I want to end this in a way that conveys both my appreciation and respect. I feel guilty.

2) I have a belief that I'll never be a good top unless I work up to it from the bottom. I'm not interested in submission, but I wonder if I should get into role and do it anyway for the experience. How exactly should I develop this part of me? How do you start with no experience and learn to become a creative, engaging dominant?
 
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Fallesafe said:
I've had kinky fantasies since I was a young kid, and I spent most of my life deeply ashamed of them. But I loosened up a lot in this last year and came to understand that being unusual is a huge part of who I am, and the thing that people usually end up liking me for.

So I decided to schedule a session with a pro-domme and explore some of these things without all the judgement. I was petrified as I sat in that dark, elegant room waiting to see her for the very first time. And she was unbelievably beautiful and arrogant in a way that just seemed inappropriate. She had the bearing of a countess and the intensity of a flamenco dancer.

The session was liberating. It smashed me and left me obsessed for a week (I just couldn't stop replaying pieces of it in my mind). I saw her every week after that for these last two months, and I've turned into another person. She unlocked places within me that I was terrified of, and she showed me how powerful I actually am -- But perhaps that was the problem.

It seemed that we were moving off track somehow, and I just couldn't place what was happening. She knew that I loved the single tail; and in one session, she laid her whips across the leather table top and asked me to choose the one I'd want her to use if I was going to beg her for mercy. I was startled by the question (since I couldn't imagine myself "begging" for anything). But I saw that one was made of heavier leather and had a hard knot tied in the end of it. That was the one.

She told me to choose my position, and I walked over to the suspension bar and grabbed onto it with both hands overhead. I began to sink into a state of determination that I'd rather pass out than give up. And she said that crazy thing to me again "Now, I want you to beg me for it." But instead I snapped. I thundered back at her "Hit me!" And I didn't know where the hell it came from. But she obliged. And for the next ten minutes she poured it on as hard as she could while I shouted her down and told her exactly how I expected it to be done. Some of the marks are still with me.

We had another session where the same thing happened. Although I relished it and felt invincible, I also felt like the sessions were losing my interest. And I finally figured out last night what was happening. I'm a hardcore massochist, but I'm just not interested in being submissive to anyone.

I've become obsessed lately with the artistry and the beauty of the whip. I ordered a custom 16 plait whip last week that I'm eagerly waiting on. And I'm constantly thinking about how I would do things if I were the dominant in a scene. It's turned very quickly into a real passion.

Great! But there are two problems:

1) What do I do about the Lady who opened this world up for me? She doesn't switch and she's not a sub. For whatever reason, I don't want to continue sessioning with her. Its like we had a certain kind of energy that was just abruptly broken. I really admire her, but it just doesn't "feel" the same. And I want to end this in a way that conveys both my appreciation and respect. I feel guilty.

2) I have a belief that I'll never be a good top unless I work up to it from the bottom. I'm not interested in submission, but I wonder if I should get into role and do it anyway for the experience. How exactly should I develop this part of me? How do you start with no experience and learn to become a creative, engaging dominant?

My suggestion,

Sit down and write a short personal letter thanking her for unlocking and touching many places inside you. Mention that this is new to you all of these experiences and you learned a great deal about yourself due to her. As you did here, mention that you learned you have Maso streak in you that is healthy, but in learning this you come to realize also that submission is not the right head space for you.

You might attach a rose to it and arrange your next meeting take it to her and when you two are alone let her read it. Or as an alternative take it there and give it to her.

I think as long as your honest and I think also it is fitting to be a bit thankful, it will be heart felt and sincere. Being a pro-Domme she no doubt has alot of experience and I would think she would find this a nice gesture that is both respectful as well as honoring to her.

Depending on how it is recieved and how you feel about it, she may still be your answer in more of a top/bottom play to sate your maso needs.

Your new, your growing and learning. Never feel guilty about self realization. Being honest with yourself and others is the key to finding your path to happiness

Just a suggestion. Good luck.
 
Welcome to the world of BDSM! Sounds like you had your inner kink awakened.

I can tell you from experience, you can learn to be a good Top/Dom/Daddy without being a slave/submissive or botom. I have been in the leather scene since 1978 and have never been a bottom. Now that said, I have bottomed for scenes. Sometimjes I do it just to experience the effects of something I want to try on someone elase, sometimes it is just because it feels good. I learned my Topping skills with the aid of several mentors and a lot of experimentation. I did a lot of self-play, especialy in CBT, my specialty, and wih other intense pain scenes.

I learned a lot from experienced bottoms who were willing to teach me from the bottom. I learned a lot by making mistakes, though none were harmful to myself or others.

I encourage you to experiment and find a wiling botom to giove you feedback, find an experienced Top to mentor you and above all have fun.

Just my words of encouragement and welcome to the commnuity.
 
Would you consider asking her to train you? Clearly she knows what she's doing and may be able to ask the probing questions and help you with the insights you might want down the pike with your own subs/bottoms.
 
Netzach said:
Would you consider asking her to train you? Clearly she knows what she's doing and may be able to ask the probing questions and help you with the insights you might want down the pike with your own subs/bottoms.

This was exactly my thought, as well. :)
 
i just want to say welcome to Lifestyle! i don't have any great words of advice other than to say, take it slow, and learn all you can from others. maybe a 'Top' Mentor or something. your story was touching to me in that you truly had an awakening. there is a lot of good advice here on this board and alot of very knowledgeable people, so welcome aboard, and best of luck to you!
 
CutieMouse said:
This was exactly my thought, as well. :)

Mine as well.

A similar experience happened with me and my ProDomme worked with me to develop my Toppie side (and my bisexual side as well - she helped me suck my first cock)(I am a bi-switch)

I can still remember the time I got up off the floor following a heavy flogging and saying "show me how to use that thing, please Ma'am...."

Welcome - and have fun :kiss:
 
Hello Fallesafe. Indulge me to make off-beat quirky but completely useless comments on your liberation.

Lilith has, through the flesh of another, beckoned you :)


http://users.telenet.be/gaston.d.haese/collier_lilith.jpg

From Wikipedia:

Lilith is described as refusing to assume a subservient role to Adam during sexual intercourse and so deserting him ("She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.'"). Lilith promptly uttered the name of God, took to the air, and left the Garden, settling on the Red Sea coast. In this act, Lilith becomes unique in that she is not touched by Original Sin, having left the garden before Eve came into existence. Lilith also reveals herself to be powerful in her own right by knowing the name of God.

Ishiah 34:14:
Wildcats shall meet with hyenas,
goat-demons shall call to each other;
there too Lilith shall repose,
and find a place to rest.
There shall the owl nest
and lay and hatch and brood in its shadow
 
You are learning more about yourself and what you want. I'll guess it's not the first time this Pro Domme has seen that. I'm sure if you told her what was happening in your mind in a way that wasn't insulting she'd be happy to have helped you on your journey and not at all surprised.

Fury :rose:
 
Gisevius said:
Lilith has, through the flesh of another, beckoned you :)

"Lilith" - *huge smile of recognition*

Thank you for invoking her name....
 
Fallesafe said:
1) What do I do about the Lady who opened this world up for me? She doesn't switch and she's not a sub. For whatever reason, I don't want to continue sessioning with her. Its like we had a certain kind of energy that was just abruptly broken. I really admire her, but it just doesn't "feel" the same. And I want to end this in a way that conveys both my appreciation and respect. I feel guilty.
Hmm. RJMasters has a good idea with the letter, and Netzach has a good idea with asking her to train you. But my view is that she's a pro Domme...she's not your girlfriend. You paid her every time you saw her, right? You needn't feel any obligation to her. From what I've heard of pro Dommes - and the one in this thread can correct me if she feels I'm wrong - most don't really have a great attachment to their clients. This was intensely personal and liberating for you, but for her it was work - you were a client. If you feel strongly that you need to communicate to her how much you appreciate and respect her, then go for it. But personally, I wouldn't feel obligated. The most I'd probably do is call up and leave a message saying "thanks very much for all you did for me, you opened up a new world and I really appreciate it, but I'm not planning to set up any future sessions with you." And let that be that. Just my opinion.
 
Etoile said:
Hmm. RJMasters has a good idea with the letter, and Netzach has a good idea with asking her to train you. But my view is that she's a pro Domme...she's not your girlfriend. You paid her every time you saw her, right? You needn't feel any obligation to her. From what I've heard of pro Dommes - and the one in this thread can correct me if she feels I'm wrong - most don't really have a great attachment to their clients. This was intensely personal and liberating for you, but for her it was work - you were a client. If you feel strongly that you need to communicate to her how much you appreciate and respect her, then go for it. But personally, I wouldn't feel obligated. The most I'd probably do is call up and leave a message saying "thanks very much for all you did for me, you opened up a new world and I really appreciate it, but I'm not planning to set up any future sessions with you." And let that be that. Just my opinion.

both have good points, i guess it jsut depends if there WAS any new connection or not... though I can't say it'd hurt at all to ask if she'd help you cultivate your Dominant side.
 
Etoile said:
Hmm. RJMasters has a good idea with the letter, and Netzach has a good idea with asking her to train you. But my view is that she's a pro Domme...she's not your girlfriend. You paid her every time you saw her, right? You needn't feel any obligation to her. From what I've heard of pro Dommes - and the one in this thread can correct me if she feels I'm wrong - most don't really have a great attachment to their clients. This was intensely personal and liberating for you, but for her it was work - you were a client. If you feel strongly that you need to communicate to her how much you appreciate and respect her, then go for it. But personally, I wouldn't feel obligated. The most I'd probably do is call up and leave a message saying "thanks very much for all you did for me, you opened up a new world and I really appreciate it, but I'm not planning to set up any future sessions with you." And let that be that. Just my opinion.

I actually thought that too, that it's a job for her.

Fury :rose:
 
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