America's Universities Get "F" on Civics.

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"The Coming Crisis in Citizenship: Higher Education's Failure to Teach America's History and Institutions" presents scientific evidence that, for the very first time, reveals how much American colleges and universities—including some of our most elite schools—add to, or subtract from, their graduates' understanding of America's history and fundamental institutions.

The Intercollegiate Studies Institute administered a 60-question multiple-choice quiz to more than 14,000 randomly selected college freshmen and seniors at 50 colleges and universities across the country --an average of about 140 each of freshman and seniors on each campus-- to determine what they knew about America's constitutional and governmental history and policies. The colleges ran from state institutions--the University of New Mexico and the University of California at Berkeley, for example, to Ivy League schools like Yale, Brown and Harvard, and less-well-known institutions like Grove City College and Appalachian State University.

Their report presents four key findings:

FINDING 1: America's colleges and universities fail to increase knowledge about America's history and institutions.

Seniors scored just 1.5 percent higher on average than freshmen.

If the survey were administered as an exam in a college course, seniors would fail with an overall average score of 53.2 percent, or F on a traditional grading scale.

Though a university education can cost upwards of $200,000, and college students on average leave campus $19,300 in debt, they are no better off than when they arrived in terms of acquiring the knowledge necessary for informed engagement in a democratic republic and global economy.

FINDING 2: Prestige doesn't pay off.

Colleges that rank high in the U.S. News and World Report 2006 ranking were ranked low in the ISI ranking of learning in these key fields. Specifically, a 1 percent increase in civic learning as measured in our survey corresponded to a decrease of 25 positions in the U.S. News ranking.

There is no relationship between the cost of attending a college and students' acquired understanding of America's history and key institutions. Students at relatively inexpensive colleges often learn more, on average, than their counterparts at expensive colleges.

At many colleges, including Brown, Georgetown, and Yale, seniors know less than freshmen about America's history, government, foreign affairs, and economy. We characterize this phenomenon as "negative learning." A majority of the 16 schools where senior scores were actually lower than freshman scores are considered to be among the most prestigious colleges in the United States.

FINDING 3: Students don't learn what colleges don't teach.

Student learning about America's history and institutions decreases when fewer courses are taken in history, political science, government, and economics.

Schools where students took more courses in American history, political science, and economics outperformed those schools where fewer courses were completed.

Civic learning is significantly greater at schools that require students to take courses in American history, political science, and economics. Student knowledge in these key areas improves significantly at colleges that still value excellent teaching in the classroom.

FINDING 4: Greater civic learning goes hand-in-hand with more active citizenship.

Students who demonstrated greater learning of America's history and institutions were more engaged in citizenship activities such as voting, volunteer community service, and political campaigns.

ref. http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/index.html
(The report makes recommendations.)


Civics Quiz
Test your knowledge by answering the five multiple-choice questions below.

1) Which of the following are the inalienable rights referred to in the Declaration of Independence?
A. life, liberty, and property.
B. honor, liberty, and peace.
C. liberty, health, and community.
D. life, respect, and equal protection.
E. life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

2) During which period was the American Constitution amended to guarantee women the right to vote?
A. 1850 – 1875
B. 1876 – 1900
C. 1901 – 1925
D. 1926 – 1950
E. 1951 – 1975

3) In his “I Have a Dream” speech, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.:
A. argued for the abolition of slavery.
B. advocated black separatism.
C. morally defended affirmative action.
D. expressed his hopes for racial justice and brotherhood.
E. proposed that several of America’s founding ideas were discriminatory.

4) Which of the following was an alliance to resist Soviet expansion?
A. United Nations.
B. League of Nations.
C. North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
D. Warsaw Pact.
E. Asian Tigers.

5) Which of the following is the best measure of production or output of an economy?
A. Gross Domestic Product.
B. Consumer Price Index.
C. Unemployment Rate.
D. Prime Rate.
E. Exchange Rate.

(Take the quiz and get the answers at http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx )
 
I wish I found it hard to...

believe that most college students couldn't answer all those questions with ease. However, I've been an undergrad for the last five years, and I'm now a grad student.

What I find very depressing is that as I watch the election process, both parties seem to increaseling rely on this lack of knowledge and misunderstanding of history to promote their candidates and ideas.
 
Of the 50 schools surveyed, 16 schools showed negative learning, including Brown, Georgetown, and Yale. In other words, at 16 schools seniors scored lower than freshmen. At these schools, seniors apparently either forgot what is known by their freshman peers or—more ominously—were mistaught by their professors. Table 4 lists the 16 schools that showed negative learning and the difference in average percent correct between seniors and freshmen at these institutions.

16 Schools That Show Negative Civic Learning
School Civic Learning Rank Negative Learning

University of Michigan 35 -0.1
Ithaca College 36 -0.2
University of Chicago 37 -0.3
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 38 -0.4
Williams College 39 -0.7
University of Florida 40 -0.8
Wofford College 41 -0.9
University of Virginia 42 -1.1
Georgetown University 43 -1.2
Yale University 44 -1.5
State University of West Georgia 45 -2.0
Duke University 46 -2.3
Brown University 47 -2.7
Cornell University 48 -3.3
University of California, Berkeley 49 -5.6
Johns Hopkins University 50 -7.3
 
Jaysus. I knew the anser to those quiz questions in 8th grade. And I'm not even American.
 
Liar said:
Jaysus. I knew the anser to those quiz questions in 8th grade. And I'm not even American.

I agree, a lot of students in Europe would know those. History teaching isn't solely centred on their own country.
 
As I recall at my university, American history classes were not a requirement. There was a Social Science requirement and a Poli Sci requrement, but those classes focused on Aristotle and Plato and Adam Smith and Thucydides and all kinds of other studies that had nothing to do with American civics or necessarily American history. Even had there been a history requirement, I image it could have been fulfilled by taking classes in Europen history, Russian history, etc. I think it's a matter of having so much to choose from to learn about that you really can't fit it all in, particularly if you're a chem major.

Still, that's no excuse for students not to know those basic things, or choose to learn them.
 
If the level of knowledge they were testing is what was in that test... why is that a University problem, and not a grade school problem?
 
Liar said:
If the level of knowledge they were testing is what was in that test... why is that a University problem, and not a grade school problem?

*cough*cough*

Why I would pay 20K+ a year to take a 'history' class?
 
since the questions are all easy, the reason question is 'why aren't these known by age 18?'

further, it's known that most Americans can't identify major countries like Russia, on a globe-- not to say minor ones like Iraq.

further, when shown sections of the Bill of Rights, many Americans say they disagree.

so instead of the pinko commie university routine, and socialist ivy league shtick, the writer ought to look to major issues.

btw. many universities do NOT have a 'core' curriculum, which is what high schools are supposed to have. where i attended there were only 5 courses required in the first year, that is, to choose one course in each of the major subject areas, like humanities, social sciences, etc. i did not take American History or any other history.
 
"Negative learning" may be an artifact. If today's freshmen are actually marginally better educated about these things than the young ivy leaguers of three and four years ago, they would score better. I know you and the writer have fallen in love with "negative learning," but it may be just the result of ACLU and the republican opposition, who have been telling anyone who'll listen about these issues for the whole time Bush has been working to destroy the Bill of Rights. If a few of the latest crop of freshmen happened to be listening, it would make the figures reflect the increase.
 
cantdog said:
"Negative learning" may be an artifact. If today's freshmen are actually marginally better educated about these things than the young ivy leaguers of three and four years ago, they would score better. I know you and the writer have fallen in love with "negative learning," but it may be just the result of ACLU and the republican opposition, who have been telling anyone who'll listen about these issues for the whole time Bush has been working to destroy the Bill of Rights. If a few of the latest crop of freshmen happened to be listening, it would make the figures reflect the increase.
Man, are you reaching . . .
 
I knew the answers, but then, I was also required to take a year of American History to get my degree (and I took a year of Western Civ just for fun. :rolleyes: )
 
elsol said:
*cough*cough*

Why I would pay 20K+ a year to take a 'history' class?
I'm sure there's a link between my question and your answer. Which link that is, I have no idea.
 
Universities have become the next big business. most have become as innovating as Enron. they spend more time trying to get money, and worry less about education. i would say that 80% of educators have zero real world experience and the higher they go up the rankes, the more they get lost in this little fantasy world. the whole education system is a mess and america will pay for it, in the next 30 years.


grrr, i'm ranting...sorry


Roxanne Appleby said:
"The Coming Crisis in Citizenship: Higher Education's Failure to Teach America's History and Institutions" presents scientific evidence that, for the very first time, reveals how much American colleges and universities—including some of our most elite schools—add to, or subtract from, their graduates' understanding of America's history and fundamental institutions.

The Intercollegiate Studies Institute administered a 60-question multiple-choice quiz to more than 14,000 randomly selected college freshmen and seniors at 50 colleges and universities across the country --an average of about 140 each of freshman and seniors on each campus-- to determine what they knew about America's constitutional and governmental history and policies. The colleges ran from state institutions--the University of New Mexico and the University of California at Berkeley, for example, to Ivy League schools like Yale, Brown and Harvard, and less-well-known institutions like Grove City College and Appalachian State University.

Their report presents four key findings:

FINDING 1: America's colleges and universities fail to increase knowledge about America's history and institutions.

Seniors scored just 1.5 percent higher on average than freshmen.

If the survey were administered as an exam in a college course, seniors would fail with an overall average score of 53.2 percent, or F on a traditional grading scale.

Though a university education can cost upwards of $200,000, and college students on average leave campus $19,300 in debt, they are no better off than when they arrived in terms of acquiring the knowledge necessary for informed engagement in a democratic republic and global economy.

FINDING 2: Prestige doesn't pay off.

Colleges that rank high in the U.S. News and World Report 2006 ranking were ranked low in the ISI ranking of learning in these key fields. Specifically, a 1 percent increase in civic learning as measured in our survey corresponded to a decrease of 25 positions in the U.S. News ranking.

There is no relationship between the cost of attending a college and students' acquired understanding of America's history and key institutions. Students at relatively inexpensive colleges often learn more, on average, than their counterparts at expensive colleges.

At many colleges, including Brown, Georgetown, and Yale, seniors know less than freshmen about America's history, government, foreign affairs, and economy. We characterize this phenomenon as "negative learning." A majority of the 16 schools where senior scores were actually lower than freshman scores are considered to be among the most prestigious colleges in the United States.

FINDING 3: Students don't learn what colleges don't teach.

Student learning about America's history and institutions decreases when fewer courses are taken in history, political science, government, and economics.

Schools where students took more courses in American history, political science, and economics outperformed those schools where fewer courses were completed.

Civic learning is significantly greater at schools that require students to take courses in American history, political science, and economics. Student knowledge in these key areas improves significantly at colleges that still value excellent teaching in the classroom.

FINDING 4: Greater civic learning goes hand-in-hand with more active citizenship.

Students who demonstrated greater learning of America's history and institutions were more engaged in citizenship activities such as voting, volunteer community service, and political campaigns.

ref. http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/index.html
(The report makes recommendations.)


Civics Quiz
Test your knowledge by answering the five multiple-choice questions below.

1) Which of the following are the inalienable rights referred to in the Declaration of Independence?
A. life, liberty, and property.
B. honor, liberty, and peace.
C. liberty, health, and community.
D. life, respect, and equal protection.
E. life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

2) During which period was the American Constitution amended to guarantee women the right to vote?
A. 1850 – 1875
B. 1876 – 1900
C. 1901 – 1925
D. 1926 – 1950
E. 1951 – 1975

3) In his “I Have a Dream” speech, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.:
A. argued for the abolition of slavery.
B. advocated black separatism.
C. morally defended affirmative action.
D. expressed his hopes for racial justice and brotherhood.
E. proposed that several of America’s founding ideas were discriminatory.

4) Which of the following was an alliance to resist Soviet expansion?
A. United Nations.
B. League of Nations.
C. North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
D. Warsaw Pact.
E. Asian Tigers.

5) Which of the following is the best measure of production or output of an economy?
A. Gross Domestic Product.
B. Consumer Price Index.
C. Unemployment Rate.
D. Prime Rate.
E. Exchange Rate.

(Take the quiz and get the answers at http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx )
 
Our school system is designed to turn out human resources suitable for employment.

History is no more necessary to this process than literacy was for slaves.
 
rgraham666 said:
Our school system is designed to turn out human resources suitable for employment.

History is no more necessary to this process than literacy was for slaves.
I was scrolling down to find the New Post button when I find Rob has already posted my thoughts.

The last thing our leaders want now, is an informed electorate. It makes the bamboozlement take longer, cost more and more prone to not working.
 
rgraham666 said:
Our school system is designed to turn out human resources suitable for employment.

History is no more necessary to this process than literacy was for slaves.


I'm not sure the general student is suitable for employment any longer....most universities are 3 to 4 years behind current times (at least as it takes that long to write a book and then print&publish it).
 
elsol said:
*cough*cough*

Why I would pay 20K+ a year to take a 'history' class?

Probably for the same reason the I paid the money to take not one, but three classes suposedly to learn the German language: No German courses, no diploma.
 
rgraham666 said:
Our school system is designed to turn out human resources suitable for employment.

History is no more necessary to this process than literacy was for slaves.

I would politely disagree with your analysis. I was forced to take not one, but three classes suposedly to learn the German language: No German courses, no diploma. I memorized enough to pass the reqirement but I retain maybe a dozen words of German total. I was also forced to take a philosophy course. At some point in the instructor's insane rant, I interrupted him to tell him that some of what he was saying was totally wrong. I pointed out the mathematical tools necessary to analyze the situations he was attempting [and failing] to analyze. The instructor had no knowledge of any of the tools.

What a US university general education is designed to do is to turn out a 17th century English Lord. The graduate will have a veneer of clever phrases over a bottomless pit of ignorance and misinformation.

I will share with Literotica readers the one valuable piece of information I gleaned from my German language studies. One of my fellow German III students bought a German language news paper and tried and failed to read it. He told the instructor of his problem. The instructor, who was a native born German speaker, told him, "What you are learning is not German. It is what some 30-years-ago college professor thought was German. If you want to learn German, you go to Germany."
 
*Snort*

Why am I somehow not surprised at this? Too often I meet high school grads who can't make change without the use of a calculator. Education changed. It became the baliwick of the politicaly correct. What you learned didn't have to have a use in life, it just had to make you feel good. Ebonics became a language. Schools were sued because they failed or held back a student, it ruined their self esteem. Colleges introduced classes like math for the modern world where they taught college students how to do simple things like make change. They introduced classes like ENG101, (Bone Head English) which taught college freshman the things that used to be taught in High School.

Now we have the mandatory testing. MCAS, (Massachussetts) and FCAT(Florida) to name two. Tests where the students are tested and the chools graded according to the results. What have the schools started doing? They now teach the tests so they can get the money they need for the basics.

Even when I was in High School they glossed over such things as American History. (It was much more important to teach things like Afro-American History.) I asked about this, I asked one of my favorite teachers, who happened to be a History Teacher. He shrugged and said he taught what he was told to teach by the state.

Yeah I am disgusted by this, but then again I am one of the lucky ones. I have the energy and inquisitivness to keep learning on my own. I read, I do research on the things that interest me.

Cat
 
and what a joke, living in florida, the school systems spends so much time on teaching the kids how to pass a test....the fcat. lets not focus on teaching the children skills, but teach the kids how to pass this test so that we (the school) can get more money

SeaCat said:
*Snort*

Why am I somehow not surprised at this? Too often I meet high school grads who can't make change without the use of a calculator. Education changed. It became the baliwick of the politicaly correct. What you learned didn't have to have a use in life, it just had to make you feel good. Ebonics became a language. Schools were sued because they failed or held back a student, it ruined their self esteem. Colleges introduced classes like math for the modern world where they taught college students how to do simple things like make change. They introduced classes like ENG101, (Bone Head English) which taught college freshman the things that used to be taught in High School.

Now we have the mandatory testing. MCAS, (Massachussetts) and FCAT(Florida) to name two. Tests where the students are tested and the chools graded according to the results. What have the schools started doing? They now teach the tests so they can get the money they need for the basics.

Even when I was in High School they glossed over such things as American History. (It was much more important to teach things like Afro-American History.) I asked about this, I asked one of my favorite teachers, who happened to be a History Teacher. He shrugged and said he taught what he was told to teach by the state.

Yeah I am disgusted by this, but then again I am one of the lucky ones. I have the energy and inquisitivness to keep learning on my own. I read, I do research on the things that interest me.

Cat
 
Roxanne Appleby said:
Man, are you reaching . . .
If today's freshmen are actually marginally better educated about these things than the young ivy leaguers of three and four years ago, they would score better.
No reach at all.

Maybe even more likely than negative learning.

Look at it again. All they need is to be 7 to 11 per cent better.
 
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jeninflorida said:
and what a joke, living in florida, the school systems spends so much time on teaching the kids how to pass a test....the fcat. lets not focus on teaching the children skills, but teach the kids how to pass this test so that we (the school) can get more money

Yes it is a joke, right up until these kids have to get a job and try to live in the real world.

I see it daily, as I'm sure you do as well. Go to the grocery store and make a purchase. Have them ring it up. Maybe it comes to something like $50.73. Give them two twenties and a ten, they punch it into the register and it tells them the change to give you. Now give them two pennies and they are completely at a loss as to what change to give you back.

It isn't only with math that they are lacking, nor is it with history. I recently had a nursing student, in school to get her R.N., who was under my tutelege. We had a patient who was in the throes of Kidney Failure, full body Edema, lowered output, etc. The patient was actively dieing, they weren't going to last moe than 24 hours. I asked the student to take another set of vital signs, then total up the inputs and outputs for the patient for our shift. She came back to me half an hour later and informed m she couldn't get any vitals on the patient, the machine wouldn't pick them up. I asked if she had tried them manualy, you know feel for a pulse, and do a manual BP. She told me she hadn't. I asked her if she had done the Inputs and outputs, she gave me a blank look. I rather sarcasticly asked if the patient was still alive and she went off. I was being sexist, I was being rascist, (Huh? She was whiter than I am.) and I was being more than just rude, I was being mean to her. I then took her by the hand and taught her how to do manual Vital signs. Pulse, Blood Pressure etc. I took her to a wall desk and showed her how to total inputs and outputs. These are basic skills people, something that one should be able to do quite easily and yet they aren't being taught.

My niece recently accused me of "dissing" her. (What in the hell is "Dissing" by the way?) She had been complaining to me that her employer, an older woman in charge of a telemarketing office, was unhappy with the way she talked with the customers. She had explained on more than one occasion that slang was not allowed. My niece didn't understand this and when I tred to explaine it she went off. She didn't understand that calling someones spouse a bitch or a whore was not the way t make a good impression.

So what is taught in our schools today?

Cat
 
cantdog said:
No reach at all.

Maybe even more likely than negative learning.

Look at it again. All they need is to be 7 to 11 per cent better.
Alright, I'll bite: How come the same effect doesn't happen with college kids? (Too much binge drinking and football mania?)
 
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